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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    Everybody knows that facebook uses algorithms that gives active users priority. Trump used facebook more than Clinton so his stuff was seen more. Both knew how it worked and trump maximized the free publicity. Trump was playing chess while Hillary was playing checkers.

    So I blame the game because I supported a candidate that never understood the concepts of the game in today's world. I like to do that.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    The scary part is that people believe some of the shit that gets posted. Common sense is now a superpower.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Sledog said:

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    The scary part is that people believe some of the shit that gets posted. Common sense is now a superpower.
    I think people got hit with an overload of info and stopped bothering to verify its authenticity. And since social media is just an algorithm designed to filter info to you that you like and choose, it's easy to see how that "bad" info would further support people's beliefs and prejudices, rather than provide them with facts that inform or challenge their assumptions.

    It's like how Trump would lie so much and so fast during interviews and debates that the moderators couldn't keep up with the fact checking, much less challenge him on most of it. The few times they did challenge him, he literally blamed it on having read it on the internet, end of story. He played right into that inefficiency, and he won because of it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    I like to complain about Trump spreading bullshit in the face of evidence that the DNC and the media colluded to lie their ass off starting in the primaries

    Thank goodness the people don't have to rely on state media

    People were smart enough not to elect Hillary. Works for me
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Sledog said:

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    The scary part is that people believe some of the shit that gets posted. Common sense is now a superpower.
    I think people got hit with an overload of info and stopped bothering to verify its authenticity. And since social media is just an algorithm designed to filter info to you that you like and choose, it's easy to see how that "bad" info would further support people's beliefs and prejudices, rather than provide them with facts that inform or challenge their assumptions.

    It's like how Trump would lie so much and so fast during interviews and debates that the moderators couldn't keep up with the fact checking, much less challenge him on most of it. The few times they did challenge him, he literally blamed it on having read it on the internet, end of story. He played right into that inefficiency, and he won because of it.
    Meh. This is just classic confirmation bias. It's telling because we want it to be telling. But these exact comments are made by players every single time there's a regime change. Sometimes they're telling, sometimes they're not. Time will tell.

    Either way it will be interesting.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    Triple post.....barely clothed is that coward @CirrhosisDawg
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    The New York Times admitted the national media isn't much better. There honestly isn't a credible source anymore. When the media went from reporting news to grabbing headlines and ratings they joined the group.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    The New York Times admitted the national media isn't much better. There honestly isn't a credible source anymore. When the media went from reporting news to grabbing headlines and ratings they joined the group.
    It's almost like you should read multiple sources then judge the truth.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    The New York Times admitted the national media isn't much better. There honestly isn't a credible source anymore. When the media went from reporting news to grabbing headlines and ratings they joined the group.
    It's almost like you should read multiple sources then judge the truth.
    We must never judge.
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    Trump won because 67% of stupid people voted for him. HTH.
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    I don't have Facebook because I'm straight old

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    AlCzervik said:

    I don't have Facebook because I'm straight old

    You sound like a fag
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter
    The media is owned by the left and they lie like rugs. It would be great if reporters went back to ethical standards instead of trying to get their candidate elected at any cost and entire news organizations dedicate themselves to their candidate.

    Thank God the American people saw through the BS this time.
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    AlCzervik said:

    I don't have Facebook because I'm straight old

    You sound like a fag
    I get bored.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    The media is owned by the left and they lie like rugs. It would be great if reporters went back to ethical standards instead of trying to get their candidate elected at any cost and entire news organizations dedicate themselves to their candidate.

    Thank God the American people saw through the BS this time.

    You really are some kind of stupid.

    And God? Really? Yes, God appreciates good hate speech.

    You are the dumbest motherfucker I've ever argued with on the internet. And that says a lot.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    The media is owned by the left and they lie like rugs. It would be great if reporters went back to ethical standards instead of trying to get their candidate elected at any cost and entire news organizations dedicate themselves to their candidate.

    Thank God the American people saw through the BS this time.

    You really are some kind of stupid.

    And God? Really? Yes, God appreciates good hate speech.

    You are the dumbest motherfucker I've ever argued with on the internet. And that says a lot.
    Everything happens according to Gods plan. Only hate speech I hear comes form the left and God ain't happy according to the election results.

    How do you remember to breathe?
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    The media is owned by the left and they lie like rugs. It would be great if reporters went back to ethical standards instead of trying to get their candidate elected at any cost and entire news organizations dedicate themselves to their candidate.

    Thank God the American people saw through the BS this time.

    You really are some kind of stupid.

    And God? Really? Yes, God appreciates good hate speech.

    You are the dumbest motherfucker I've ever argued with on the internet. And that says a lot.
    Everything happens according to Gods plan. Only hate speech I hear comes form the left and God ain't happy according to the election results.

    How do you remember to breathe?
    Praise ALLAH
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    2001400ex said:

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    The New York Times admitted the national media isn't much better. There honestly isn't a credible source anymore. When the media went from reporting news to grabbing headlines and ratings they joined the group.
    It's almost like you should read multiple sources then judge the truth.
    Exactly, except when 90% of the time you get other sources writing the exact opposite. The media isn't what it used to be. Instead of just reporting the facts, they've become nothing more than a compilation of individual opinion pieces. This goes for the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, Fox News, Breitbart, MSNBC, ABC, etc. So good luck with that.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    The media is owned by the left and they lie like rugs. It would be great if reporters went back to ethical standards instead of trying to get their candidate elected at any cost and entire news organizations dedicate themselves to their candidate.

    Thank God the American people saw through the BS this time.

    You really are some kind of stupid.

    And God? Really? Yes, God appreciates good hate speech.

    You are the dumbest motherfucker I've ever argued with on the internet. And that says a lot.
    Everything happens according to Gods plan. Only hate speech I hear comes form the left and God ain't happy according to the election results.

    How do you remember to breathe?
    Right.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:
    Where is the posters political affiliation listed? You do know what assume means right?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:
    Where is the posters political affiliation listed? You do know what assume means right?
    Yes liberals are bashing Malia going to Harvard.

    You are a special stupid.

    https://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/02/21/here-are-13-other-repugnant-comments-ted-nugent/198174

    Let me guess, Ted Nugent isn't conservative now?
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    The biggest problem with media outlets today, is that we are now being told what to think, instead of how to think.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Sledog said:

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    The scary part is that people believe some of the shit that gets posted. Common sense is now a superpower.
    I agree that's scary that people believe non-factual shit and it mostly falls on the uneducated or people that lack critical thinking ability. Numerous times during the election, Republican talking heads would flat out deny facts because they didn't believe them. I'm not saying that Newt Gringrichdawg is uneducated or can't think critically though. I'm saying that the facts didn't fit his narrative so he would ignore them and then the Trumpers would lap it up.

    To say that common sense is a superpower only illustrates what most of us have been saying about you.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    Trump played the game better, and that's definitely why he won. But are we really happy with a political system that rewards spreading propaganda?

    John Oliver showed a graph that basically said that 60% (40% conservative and 20% liberal) of the "news" that was shared on Facebook was bullshit. And that a surprising number of Americans now get their news exclusively through social media.

    Regardless of the outcome, we should all we wary of this wave of anti-intellectualism (both sides are guilty) that has only made us dumber and more divided as a country.

    I know we all like to joke about "x is your source???" but we should start taking that question more seriously.

    The scary part is that people believe some of the shit that gets posted. Common sense is now a superpower.
    I agree that's scary that people believe non-factual shit and it mostly falls on the uneducated or people that lack critical thinking ability. Numerous times during the election, Republican talking heads would flat out deny facts because they didn't believe them. I'm not saying that Newt Gringrichdawg is uneducated or can't think critically though. I'm saying that the facts didn't fit his narrative so he would ignore them and then the Trumpers would lap it up.

    To say that common sense is a superpower only illustrates what most of us have been saying about you.
    Don't sell yourself short