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Why Dawgman is losing and we are winning

chrisvashon
chrisvashon Member Posts: 627
edited October 2013 in Hardcore Husky Board
(deserves its own thread because, fuck it, I wrote like 100 paragraphs).

I agree that most probably don't post, hence my 20% estimate. Honestly, there is just no way they have 4,000+ subscribers. People don't forget about a monthly fee. Maybe for a month or two, but I just don't think there are hundreds of people who see $12 for Doogman on their credit card statement and just let it slide.

There are <50 regular posters over there. And about 15 of those generate 99% of the content. During super sexy chat time, they rarely - very rarely - crack 300 (this according to the two years when I was a member). People signing up for a recruiting website make it a priority to get into things like super undercover info chat sessions. But, even if we are being conservative and saying that 80% of users don't check out the chats or ever post, we're still talking far less than 2,000 subscribers overall.

All of this is, of course, speculation. But what isn't speculation, as I pointed out, is that Eklund has another job and Kim, for a long time, had another gig. If this thing was printing money, they wouldn't need to supplement their income. Or do other money grabs like a signing day party in fucking Kirkland.

And the best part is they fucking know the business they've built is fragile and barely getting by. Thriving business are not terrified of competitors. And Doogman is scared shitless of little sites like ours. I've never seen a message board where links to similar types of sites are deleted (and prohibited in the rules!). Just a mention of hardcorehusky will get you a "time out."

Kim knows he doesn't know shit about football. Other sites are breaking down plays, producing high quality videos, educating their viewers (eg California Golden Blogs does a great breakdown of key plays after every game).

Kim, Eklund, Fetters -- they are totally incapable of adding insight or thoughtfulness to their coverage. All they do is regurgitate. Literally. Their content is a video of a press conference. Or a transcription of Sark's radio show! It's pathetic. I bet they don't even know HOW to edit video.

All of this is to say their only competitive advantage is that they cornered the market. And, for some reason, no credible or competent (hi Ruth!) competitors ever challenged their dominance. That's it. And that's why they're so scared of us.

/rant
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  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    edited October 2013
    tl;dr
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  • tracker
    tracker Member Posts: 866
    chrisvashon said:

    (deserves its own thread because, fuck it, I wrote like 100 paragraphs).

    I agree that most probably don't post, hence my 20% estimate. Honestly, there is just no way they have 4,000+ subscribers. People don't forget about a monthly fee. Maybe for a month or two, but I just don't think there are hundreds of people who see $12 for Doogman on their credit card statement and just let it slide.

    There are <50 regular posters over there. And about 15 of those generate 99% of the content. During super sexy chat time, they rarely - very rarely - crack 300 (this according to the two years when I was a member). People signing up for a recruiting website make it a priority to get into things like super undercover info chat sessions. But, even if we are being conservative and saying that 80% of users don't check out the chats or ever post, we're still talking far less than 2,000 subscribers overall.

    All of this is, of course, speculation. <b>But what isn't speculation, as I pointed out, is that Eklund has another job and Kim, for a long time, had another gig. If this thing was printing money, they wouldn't need to supplement their income. Or do other money grabs like a signing day party in fucking Kirkland.

    And the best part is they fucking know the business they've built is fragile and barely getting by. Thriving business are not terrified of competitors. And Doogman is scared shitless of little sites like ours. I've never seen a message board where links to similar types of sites are deleted (and prohibited in the rules!). Just a mention of hardcorehusky will get you a "time out."

    Kim knows he doesn't know shit about football. Other sites are breaking down plays, producing high quality videos, educating their viewers (eg California Golden Blogs does a great breakdown of key plays after every game).

    Kim, Eklund, Fetters -- they are totally incapable of adding insight or thoughtfulness to their coverage. All they do is regurgitate. Literally. Their content is a video of a press conference. Or a transcription of Sark's radio show! It's pathetic. I bet they don't even know HOW to edit video.

    All of this is to say their only competitive advantage is that they cornered the market. And, for some reason, no credible or competent (hi Ruth!) competitors ever challenged their dominance. That's it. And that's why they're so scared of us.

    /rant

    You have no idea the damage 3F's food budget has done.

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Great post reminds me of this one from a few years back.

    Author: SenatorMcCarthy
    Date: 05/19/2010 07:29AM

    Kicked to the curb without a note.

    We're winning.

    If you have to ban people and throw them out in order to promote the idea that Woody isn't an idiot, you've lost.

    I like to have the largest Husky site on the web with the most active boards and the largest paying membership and obsess over a backwater dime store message board filled with malcontents and lemon party enthusiasts.

    That's what I like to do
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,404 Founders Club
    Two thoughts:

    A. Kim absolutely thinks he knows a ton about football.
    B. Our site isn't so little anymore. The numbers since August are impressive. The numbers since the Stanford game are stunning.

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  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    DerekJohnson said:

    Two thoughts:

    A. Kim absolutely thinks he knows a ton about football.

    Response: More proof Kim is a fucking moron. He doesn't know a ton about football. He just gloms on to those he thinks does and then tries to use that to pump up his own brand. It's called being a sycophant.

    B. Our site isn't so little anymore. The numbers since August are impressive. The numbers since the Stanford game are stunning.

    Response: Like I've said before. I'm a fucking oracle.

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    DerekJohnson said:

    Two thoughts:

    A. Kim absolutely thinks he knows a ton about football.
    B. Our site isn't so little anymore. The numbers since August are impressive. The numbers since the Stanford game are stunning.

    A couple Q's on point B:

    How many unique poasters poast daily?

    Roughly how many hits are you getting daily?

    TIA
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,404 Founders Club
    CollegeDoog said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Two thoughts:

    A. Kim absolutely thinks he knows a ton about football.
    B. Our site isn't so little anymore. The numbers since August are impressive. The numbers since the Stanford game are stunning.

    A couple Q's on point B:

    How many unique poasters poast daily?

    Roughly how many hits are you getting daily?

    TIA
    At some point, after discussing with the Bored of Investors, we'll dish out some numbers. But I updated @WhiskeyDawg yesterday and he exclaimed "Holy Shit!!"

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  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    I never poasted much over there - but I let them ride my credit card from the late 90s' until about 2008. Realized I hadn't checked the site in years and was still a member. Had to cancel

    Called customer service in Bangladesh and finally got everything closed down
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,135
    edited October 2013
    Kim doesn't even watch the games because he is too busy taking shitty pictures. You know he doesn't re watch the games at home either. All he knows about football is what other people he considers experts tell him.
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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    CheersWestDawg said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Two thoughts:

    A. Kim absolutely thinks he knows a ton about football.

    Response: More proof Kim is a fucking moron. He doesn't know a ton about football. He just gloms on to those he thinks does and then tries to use that to pump up his own brand. It's called being a sycophant.

    B. Our site isn't so little anymore. The numbers since August are impressive. The numbers since the Stanford game are stunning.

    Response: Like I've said before. I'm a fucking oracle.

    DON'T USE BIG WORDS! FUCK
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  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Because Sugar is here!
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Mosster47 said:

    Here is for me personally. I thought eDuck was/is a complete rip off. However, once I found out you had to call someone to cancel the membership I just didn't want to. So, I waited three years or so until me debit card expired. I know it sounds ridiculous, but that's how much I hate customer service calls in relation to how much $10 a month means to me.

    Sure, not everyone is like this, but I know I am. I fucking hate the Huskys and you can all die in a fire, but I've enjoyed this counter culture Race invented far more than the 50 and single crowd on eDuck. I love the Ducks, hate Duck fans. I hate the Husky, love Husky fans. FML.

    hryk

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Because Sugar is here!

    You are exactly like those Doogman faggots(75K) though.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,135
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Because Sugar is here!

    You are exactly like those Doogman faggots(75K) though.
    I miss the old PLSS, dammit!

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    RoadDawg55 said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Because Sugar is here!

    You are exactly like those Doogman faggots(75K) though.
    I miss the old PLSS, dammit!

    I never liked him but the old one was at least entertaining and not a fucking Doog.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    I just gave Derek a little walking around money... he's been nice enough to let me play in his sandbox.
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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,289 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    I just gave Derek a little walking around money... he's been nice enough to let me play in his sandbox.

    When you're doing blow off of a hooker's ass while doing 90 down I-5 in a porsche, walking around money = $3K

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Because Sugar is here!

    You are exactly like those Doogman faggots(75K) though.
    I miss the old PLSS, dammit!

    I never liked him but the old one was at least entertaining and not a fucking Doog.
    Apparently you missed all of his Pac12-SEC poasts.

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  • Dawgs4ever
    Dawgs4ever Member Posts: 170
    Fetters evidences how little he knows about football every day. DM's biggest mistake ever (and they've made many) was hiring that loser. Dave should've prohibited Fetters from being able to post anything in the forums on that site years ago.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,135
    Dawgs4ever said:

    Fetters evidences how little he knows about football every day. DM's biggest mistake ever (and they've made many) was hiring that loser. Dave should've prohibited Fetters from being able to post anything in the forums on that site years ago.

    Link?

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Dawgs4ever said:

    Fetters evidences how little he knows about football every day. DM's biggest mistake ever (and they've made many) was hiring that loser. Dave should've prohibited Fetters from being able to post anything in the forums on that site years ago.

    Giving Kim the keys was worse than hiring Fetters.

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  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 333
    WHO CARES?

    ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR TEN YEARS.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    Dawgs4ever said:

    Fetters evidences how little he knows about football every day. DM's biggest mistake ever (and they've made many) was hiring that loser. Dave should've prohibited Fetters from being able to post anything in the forums on that site years ago.

    Huh?

    -HNMT
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