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Neuheisel and Mora: What went wrong?

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,460 Standard Supporter
    animate said:

    Neu - great recruiter, not such a great coach. Good coach. Okay player development. Nowhere near the cult of personality to maintain discipline in a large market like la that kids need to produce a good football program.

    Mora jr - less flamboyant, more tough personality but an okay coach. I think player development is okay to mediocre. Again, see comment above

    Rick is no great recruiter.
  • animate said:

    Neu - great recruiter, not such a great coach. Good coach. Okay player development. Nowhere near the cult of personality to maintain discipline in a large market like la that kids need to produce a good football program.

    Mora jr - less flamboyant, more tough personality but an okay coach. I think player development is okay to mediocre. Again, see comment above

    People forget, Mora isn't a Jr.
  • animate said:

    Neu - great recruiter, not such a great coach. Good coach. Okay player development. Nowhere near the cult of personality to maintain discipline in a large market like la that kids need to produce a good football program.

    Mora jr - less flamboyant, more tough personality but an okay coach. I think player development is okay to mediocre. Again, see comment above

    Rick is no great recruiter.
    But everyone said so.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Mora's defense is fine. Mora's offense blows, which is part:
    a) shite coaching on the OLine...Klemm can recruit but he can't coach, and nobody else on that staff knows how to coach OL. He should have figured that out a few years ago.
    b) shite OCs...when you are downgrading from Mazzone to somebody you pulled off the street, you are doing something wrong.
    c) shite balance in recruiting/positions. Our 4ths string walkon is better than Falafel...no reason in year 4 or whatever you end up at that position. And in year 4 note having a kicker is pretty much inexcusable.
    d) shite overall philosophy. He hasn't matched up how he wants to play O with how he wants to play D...they aren't separate.

    Mora is a pretty good example of a college coach needing to be more than just a football coach...he's got to be a manager of coaches and roster. He's got the football part down...he's failing miserably at the rest. Esp when you are working against a soft culture like UCLA's.

    Van Winkle says Hi.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,689

    They coach(ed) for a school where the players love the recruiting process but don't love football.

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    Also they're a bunch of pussies.

    Nailed it
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,776

    This kind of serious football discussion begs for @puppylove_sugarsteel

    Puppy won't be back until UW loses
    What if the loss comes to BAMA?!?!?!
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,776

    animate said:

    Neu - great recruiter, not such a great coach. Good coach. Okay player development. Nowhere near the cult of personality to maintain discipline in a large market like la that kids need to produce a good football program.

    Mora jr - less flamboyant, more tough personality but an okay coach. I think player development is okay to mediocre. Again, see comment above

    Rick is no great recruiter.
    Reggie Williams!!!!!!!
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,016
    2001400ex said:

    Mora's defense is fine. Mora's offense blows, which is part:
    a) shite coaching on the OLine...Klemm can recruit but he can't coach, and nobody else on that staff knows how to coach OL. He should have figured that out a few years ago.
    b) shite OCs...when you are downgrading from Mazzone to somebody you pulled off the street, you are doing something wrong.
    c) shite balance in recruiting/positions. Our 4ths string walkon is better than Falafel...no reason in year 4 or whatever you end up at that position. And in year 4 note having a kicker is pretty much inexcusable.
    d) shite overall philosophy. He hasn't matched up how he wants to play O with how he wants to play D...they aren't separate.

    Mora is a pretty good example of a college coach needing to be more than just a football coach...he's got to be a manager of coaches and roster. He's got the football part down...he's failing miserably at the rest. Esp when you are working against a soft culture like UCLA's.

    Van Winkle says Hi.
    Van Winkle has one of the highest conversion % in UW history. He's not a future pro, but he's a hell of a lot better than the dreck UCLA kicked with yesterday.

    God you are a fucking moron.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,357 Founders Club
    Both are bad head coaches with similar program performance trajectories, start fast and then fade, its that simple.