FCS North Dakota State will receive consideration for AP Top 25
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AP25 Week 4 Poll
"Others receiving votes: TCU 132, UCLA 74, North Dakota St. 74, Boise St. 69, Iowa 47, California 44, Oklahoma St. 42, Notre Dame 32, Oregon 23, North Carolina 17, Georgia Tech 17, Cent. Michigan 16, South Florida 7, W. Michigan 6, Toledo 6, Maryland 3, Arizona St. 3, Virginia Tech 1."
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If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.
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Cal still too high
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100% DisagreeApostleofGrief said:If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.
You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.
If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender. -
I might be in the minority, but I'd rather watch a game against Michigan than against North Dakota StateApostleofGrief said:If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.
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Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbsTequilla said:
100% DisagreeApostleofGrief said:If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.
You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.
If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.
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They've done a lot more than Washington has so far this season.
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I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.Tequilla said:
100% DisagreeApostleofGrief said:If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.
You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.
If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender. -
Tequila's point (which is 100% correct) has nothing to do with the poll.Southerndawg said:
I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.Tequilla said:
100% DisagreeApostleofGrief said:If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.
You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.
If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender. -
He WTF'd the poll, which has everything to do with the poll.FremontTroll said:
Tequila's point (which is 100% correct) has nothing to do with the poll.Southerndawg said:
I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.Tequilla said:
100% DisagreeApostleofGrief said:If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.
You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.
If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender. -
Ah I see. I don't think I've ever agreed with Tequilla so I thought I would back him up.Southerndawg said:
He WTF'd the poll, which has everything to do with the poll.FremontTroll said:
Tequila's point (which is 100% correct) has nothing to do with the poll.Southerndawg said:
I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.Tequilla said:
100% DisagreeApostleofGrief said:If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.
You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.
If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.
Maybe he wtf'ed at TCU being at #26. -
Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs
I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see. -
You lost by 19.ApostleofGrief said:Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year.
Get the fuck out Wildcoot. -
Bandwidth massacre every post, and no Wigwam scalp. Banhammer this faggot.ApostleofGrief said:Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs
I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see. -
I WTF'ed it on my phone and was intending to WTF AOG's post which is 100% just wrong ...Southerndawg said:
He WTF'd the poll, which has everything to do with the poll.FremontTroll said:
Tequila's point (which is 100% correct) has nothing to do with the poll.Southerndawg said:
I don't disagree in general but why hate on NDS for getting more AP25 votes than all but three PAC12 teams? They've won 6 straight games against FBS schools, I think they've earned the recognition.Tequilla said:
100% DisagreeApostleofGrief said:If you are going to book an FCS team, this is the type of team to book, not the likes of Portland or Idaho State. Eastern is good. They put on a good show both games.
You get NOTHING out of this game ... if you lose or barely win everybody thinks the sky is falling. Since these teams are normally pretty good you likely won't blow them out.
If you want a competitive game go play a P5 or non P5 contender.
Personally, I'd be ok with never publishing the "other receiving votes" by total because I hate the idea of hearing a team say "we're number 30" -
We already said your original post sucked and then you double downed on it?ApostleofGrief said:Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs
I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see.
You're missing the entire point ...
The point being that you gain NOTHING as a P5 school by playing a dangerous FCS school. If you beat them you're supposed to. If you beat them in a close game everybody thinks the sky is falling. If you lose to them like Iowa did and people are instead now looking at the contract that your coach just signed and want to get run down in the middle of the wheat fields.
If you are going to schedule a FCS school, then schedule a program that you not only can beat easily, but one that you know that you can get your depth substantial playing time.
I'm a big proponent of the A-B-C scheduling matrix. The B game should be a mid level group of 5 conference team or lower tier P5 team. Should be good enough that you have to pay attention to but should probably beat by about 20 or so. The A game should be against elite Top 10-20 competition and at a destination that your fan base wants to travel to. -
Oh how I've missed some Hot CWU talk.ApostleofGrief said:Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs
I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see. -
The irony of Sven chinning this poast is delicious.haie said:
Bandwidth massacre every post, and no Wigwam scalp. Banhammer this faggot.ApostleofGrief said:Cross division play is common in college football and if you do that, the upper conference team booking a lower conference team with a strong record and tradition makes a game about like booking an average upper division team. Your view is based on the habit of booking shitty lower division teams. Also look at all of college football not just fbs
I've seen Central play NAIA Carroll and win once, lose once. Central played Portland State and won 3 quarters which beat the Cougs last year. You guys are only aware of FBS and look down your noses at the rest of college football. I think you think FBS is greater than other divisions because of the sheer magnitude of comparing fan bases and stadium sizes, but the reality is that it is a continuum and the differences are not that great. A good team in a lower division is about like an average team one notch up. You've got kind of a French, snobby let-them-eat-cake attitude which is fine, but you don't understand college footblal as a whole, only the slice you choose to see. -
What's the point? They are in a different league and can't make the final 4, or am I mistaken?
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I never said it was a good idea to schedule FCS teams. All I said was that if you do, get a good one. The game will be about like a "B" game. That is what the Eastern games have been like. But playing EWU is more exciting than a shit FBS team. That's the thing that you motherfuckers just can't grasp about college football. That if you go down one rung in divisions the best teams are going to beat the mediocre and crappy teams a rung up. It's like that through the whole spectrum from FBS down to NCAA Div III and NAIA. You look at FBS and think "that is all there is to college football" because it has all the money, fans and huge stadiums. But you are like a music fan that pretends to know music, but is only listening to the shit they have on the radio. You've missed the big picture.
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Die in a fiery mudslideApostleofGrief said:I never said it was a good idea to schedule FCS teams. All I said was that if you do, get a good one. The game will be about like a "B" game. That is what the Eastern games have been like. But playing EWU is more exciting than a shit FBS team.
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Sweet mother of fuck. basically all I am saying is that an EWU game (a top notch FCS club) is more entertaining than a fucking Idaho type beatdown. I already fucking forgot last week's game. Was it last week? It was so damn boring I can't remember. The eastern games were at least entertaining.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Die in a fiery mudslideApostleofGrief said:I never said it was a good idea to schedule FCS teams. All I said was that if you do, get a good one. The game will be about like a "B" game. That is what the Eastern games have been like. But playing EWU is more exciting than a shit FBS team.
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Michigan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EWU>IdahoApostleofGrief said:
Sweet mother of fuck. basically all I am saying is that an EWU game (a top notch FCS club) is more entertaining than a fucking Idaho type beatdown. I already fucking forgot last week's game. Was it last week? It was so damn boring I can't remember. The eastern games were at least entertaining.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Die in a fiery mudslideApostleofGrief said:I never said it was a good idea to schedule FCS teams. All I said was that if you do, get a good one. The game will be about like a "B" game. That is what the Eastern games have been like. But playing EWU is more exciting than a shit FBS team.
HTH
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No, we do get that ... that's not an argument really.ApostleofGrief said:I never said it was a good idea to schedule FCS teams. All I said was that if you do, get a good one. The game will be about like a "B" game. That is what the Eastern games have been like. But playing EWU is more exciting than a shit FBS team. That's the thing that you motherfuckers just can't grasp about college football. That if you go down one rung in divisions the best teams are going to beat the mediocre and crappy teams a rung up. It's like that through the whole spectrum from FBS down to NCAA Div III and NAIA. You look at FBS and think "that is all there is to college football" because it has all the money, fans and huge stadiums. But you are like a music fan that pretends to know music, but is only listening to the shit they have on the radio. You've missed the big picture.
The point being that there's ZERO to gain from playing those teams. NONE. ZERO. ZILCH. NADA. -
Portland State is better than Eastern, dumb fuck.ApostleofGrief said:
Sweet mother of fuck. basically all I am saying is that an EWU game (a top notch FCS club) is more entertaining than a fucking Idaho type beatdown. I already fucking forgot last week's game. Was it last week? It was so damn boring I can't remember. The eastern games were at least entertaining.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Die in a fiery mudslideApostleofGrief said:I never said it was a good idea to schedule FCS teams. All I said was that if you do, get a good one. The game will be about like a "B" game. That is what the Eastern games have been like. But playing EWU is more exciting than a shit FBS team.
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Not usually and not so far http://www.espn.com/core/college-football/standings?group=20TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Portland State is better than Eastern, dumb fuck.ApostleofGrief said:
Sweet mother of fuck. basically all I am saying is that an EWU game (a top notch FCS club) is more entertaining than a fucking Idaho type beatdown. I already fucking forgot last week's game. Was it last week? It was so damn boring I can't remember. The eastern games were at least entertaining.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Die in a fiery mudslideApostleofGrief said:I never said it was a good idea to schedule FCS teams. All I said was that if you do, get a good one. The game will be about like a "B" game. That is what the Eastern games have been like. But playing EWU is more exciting than a shit FBS team.
