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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    PurpleJ said:

    Metrics pointing up after TUFF performances against Shit Tier St, Dreck Tech, and Gaybob U!

    That's Gaybob State University, sir.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    Mathis is adequate, if only just. And Baked Potato is an able backup.

    It's the other rush end spot that worries me, heading into conference play. A three-noseguard lineup isn't going to work against spread teams.
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    Really amazing stuff here.

    But I could have those stats vs seattle pacific, Idaho and whoever else these bums played.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Joe Mathis, who I loved in HS and have been hopeful for his whole career has finally showed me he is dog shit.

    He's just got too much Sark in him, he doesn't know how to be good or how to play with effort.

    Hopefully Benning overtakes him at some point.

    Joe sucks.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Joe Mathis, who I loved in HS and have been hopeful for his whole career has finally showed me he is dog shit.

    He's just got too much Sark in him, he doesn't know how to be good or how to play with effort.

    Hopefully Benning overtakes him at some point.

    Joe sucks.

    I somewhat disagree ...

    He's not great and I don't disagree that there's some Sark in him ...

    I do so him try though ... which is way better than P-SALM ...

    What I see more than anything else is that he allows himself to get blocked too easily and then has to work his ass off to get somewhere ... which he often does a count late because of getting blocked too easily.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Mathis reminds me of Josh Shirley. Looks the part, but just isn't a good football player. All bus team.
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    Mathis has freaky strength and coulda been developed into an NFL DE if he'd been willing to listen to the S&C staff and bulk up to 270-275#. Instead he wants to hover under 250 and be a BUCK, which he's just not. Has very limited ability to play in space. I think we're seeing his ceiling at the BUCK position, which is slightly above adequate.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Mathis has always been a slow tweener. I said it from his freshman year so I am taking this opportunity to beat my chest.

    Disagree. His fridge/shower shuttle time is off the charts.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216
    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,168

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
    It's clear to me that you and Psalm have a consensual sexual relationship. That has no place on a classy website like this one. Your judgement is obviously impaired by the fact that you've given him your fancy feast and thoroughly enjoy the ring sting. You're making yourself look fucking stupid repeatedly sticking up for such a shit player and known flamer. It's getting embarrassing.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
    It's clear to me that you and Psalm have a consensual sexual relationship. That has no place on a classy website like this one. Your judgement is obviously impaired by the fact that you've given him your fancy feast and thoroughly enjoy the ring sting. You're making yourself look fucking stupid repeatedly sticking up for such a shit player and known flamer. It's getting embarrassing.
    Keep jerking it to the consensus buddy. People made fun of him for the fire dancing stuff and being a Sark player. He was okay last year and looks to have bulked up so we will see how he holds up this year. His pass rush is good, and he can hit (injured the Rutgers QB and caused a fumble).

    We will see how he does vs Stanford. Til then shut the fuck up about how players are doing vs jv teams
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Doogles said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
    It's clear to me that you and Psalm have a consensual sexual relationship. That has no place on a classy website like this one. Your judgement is obviously impaired by the fact that you've given him your fancy feast and thoroughly enjoy the ring sting. You're making yourself look fucking stupid repeatedly sticking up for such a shit player and known flamer. It's getting embarrassing.
    Keep jerking it to the consensus buddy. People made fun of him for the fire dancing stuff and being a Sark player. He was okay last year and looks to have bulked up so we will see how he holds up this year. His pass rush is good, and he can hit (injured the Rutgers QB and caused a fumble).

    We will see how he does vs Stanford. Til then shut the fuck up about how players are doing vs jv teams
    I just hate how he is 160 pounds, the way he ran after taking 3 seconds to realize he recovered a fumble last year, and the way he over runs every tackle.

    I'll never knock Psalm for trying, because he does give effort, he's just a delusional Islander who missed the roids memo.

    He'll be the Hawaiian Uncle Rico someday, but it's not his fault.
    bull fucking shit. He's the lowest energy player on our D. He only gives effort to post-play antics.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
    It's clear to me that you and Psalm have a consensual sexual relationship. That has no place on a classy website like this one. Your judgement is obviously impaired by the fact that you've given him your fancy feast and thoroughly enjoy the ring sting. You're making yourself look fucking stupid repeatedly sticking up for such a shit player and known flamer. It's getting embarrassing.
    Keep jerking it to the consensus buddy. People made fun of him for the fire dancing stuff and being a Sark player. He was okay last year and looks to have bulked up so we will see how he holds up this year. His pass rush is good, and he can hit (injured the Rutgers QB and caused a fumble).

    We will see how he does vs Stanford. Til then shut the fuck up about how players are doing vs jv teams
    I just hate how he is 160 pounds, the way he ran after taking 3 seconds to realize he recovered a fumble last year, and the way he over runs every tackle.

    I'll never knock Psalm for trying, because he does give effort, he's just a delusional Islander who missed the roids memo.

    He'll be the Hawaiian Uncle Rico someday, but it's not his fault.
    bull fucking shit. He's the lowest energy player on our D. He only gives effort to post-play antics.
    Yeah, but haka is srs bizness
  • mobey
    mobey Member Posts: 3,254
    We did what we were supposed to do if we are a good team.

    Now we will see how good we are.

    Not sure the point of everyone getting their panties in a wad because we destroyed inferior opponents.

    If you wanted 70-0 scores, it won't happen with Peterman no matter who we play.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216
    Obviously this message board knows more about defense and who should start than Kwatkawski.
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,168

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
    It's clear to me that you and Psalm have a consensual sexual relationship. That has no place on a classy website like this one. Your judgement is obviously impaired by the fact that you've given him your fancy feast and thoroughly enjoy the ring sting. You're making yourself look fucking stupid repeatedly sticking up for such a shit player and known flamer. It's getting embarrassing.
    Keep jerking it to the consensus buddy. People made fun of him for the fire dancing stuff and being a Sark player. He was okay last year and looks to have bulked up so we will see how he holds up this year. His pass rush is good, and he can hit (injured the Rutgers QB and caused a fumble).

    We will see how he does vs Stanford. Til then shut the fuck up about how players are doing vs jv teams
    Take your own advice and stop jerking off over what he's done against JV teams, fucktard. If he plays well against Pac12 teams, I'll admit you were right. Until then, he's a shitty player who's never made an impact against a decent team. As you love to say, LIPO before you crown his ass.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
    It's clear to me that you and Psalm have a consensual sexual relationship. That has no place on a classy website like this one. Your judgement is obviously impaired by the fact that you've given him your fancy feast and thoroughly enjoy the ring sting. You're making yourself look fucking stupid repeatedly sticking up for such a shit player and known flamer. It's getting embarrassing.
    Keep jerking it to the consensus buddy. People made fun of him for the fire dancing stuff and being a Sark player. He was okay last year and looks to have bulked up so we will see how he holds up this year. His pass rush is good, and he can hit (injured the Rutgers QB and caused a fumble).

    We will see how he does vs Stanford. Til then shut the fuck up about how players are doing vs jv teams
    Take your own advice and stop jerking off over what he's done against JV teams, fucktard. If he plays well against Pac12 teams, I'll admit you were right. Until then, he's a shitty player who's never made an impact against a decent team. As you love to say, LIPO before you crown his ass.
    All im saying is he is far from horrible you fucking retard
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,168

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
    It's clear to me that you and Psalm have a consensual sexual relationship. That has no place on a classy website like this one. Your judgement is obviously impaired by the fact that you've given him your fancy feast and thoroughly enjoy the ring sting. You're making yourself look fucking stupid repeatedly sticking up for such a shit player and known flamer. It's getting embarrassing.
    Keep jerking it to the consensus buddy. People made fun of him for the fire dancing stuff and being a Sark player. He was okay last year and looks to have bulked up so we will see how he holds up this year. His pass rush is good, and he can hit (injured the Rutgers QB and caused a fumble).

    We will see how he does vs Stanford. Til then shut the fuck up about how players are doing vs jv teams
    Take your own advice and stop jerking off over what he's done against JV teams, fucktard. If he plays well against Pac12 teams, I'll admit you were right. Until then, he's a shitty player who's never made an impact against a decent team. As you love to say, LIPO before you crown his ass.
    All im saying is he is far from horrible you fucking retard
    He's a shitty version of Josh Shirley, who wasn't very good. You sure picked a strange horse to hitch your wagon to.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
    It's clear to me that you and Psalm have a consensual sexual relationship. That has no place on a classy website like this one. Your judgement is obviously impaired by the fact that you've given him your fancy feast and thoroughly enjoy the ring sting. You're making yourself look fucking stupid repeatedly sticking up for such a shit player and known flamer. It's getting embarrassing.
    Keep jerking it to the consensus buddy. People made fun of him for the fire dancing stuff and being a Sark player. He was okay last year and looks to have bulked up so we will see how he holds up this year. His pass rush is good, and he can hit (injured the Rutgers QB and caused a fumble).

    We will see how he does vs Stanford. Til then shut the fuck up about how players are doing vs jv teams
    I just hate how he is 160 pounds, the way he ran after taking 3 seconds to realize he recovered a fumble last year, and the way he over runs every tackle.

    I'll never knock Psalm for trying, because he does give effort, he's just a delusional Islander who missed the roids memo.

    He'll be the Hawaiian Uncle Rico someday, but it's not his fault.
    bull fucking shit. He's the lowest energy player on our D. He only gives effort to post-play antics.
    If you don't think he reads these boards I can't help you.

    He cares, he's just not good.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Mathis isn't a bad player ... he's probably an average to slightly above average PAC player IMO

    The problem is that average to slightly above average on this defense makes you look like you are slow and just adequate.

    It's a good problem to have.

    You cant say Mathis is average and then hate on Psalm
    P-SALM dreams to be an average player

    He is an average Pac 12 player and a decent pass rusher. Youre usually not one to join in on a circle jerk. Why don't you write me a 10000 word essay on why he isnt decent?
    It's clear to me that you and Psalm have a consensual sexual relationship. That has no place on a classy website like this one. Your judgement is obviously impaired by the fact that you've given him your fancy feast and thoroughly enjoy the ring sting. You're making yourself look fucking stupid repeatedly sticking up for such a shit player and known flamer. It's getting embarrassing.
    Keep jerking it to the consensus buddy. People made fun of him for the fire dancing stuff and being a Sark player. He was okay last year and looks to have bulked up so we will see how he holds up this year. His pass rush is good, and he can hit (injured the Rutgers QB and caused a fumble).

    We will see how he does vs Stanford. Til then shut the fuck up about how players are doing vs jv teams
    Take your own advice and stop jerking off over what he's done against JV teams, fucktard. If he plays well against Pac12 teams, I'll admit you were right. Until then, he's a shitty player who's never made an impact against a decent team. As you love to say, LIPO before you crown his ass.
    All im saying is he is far from horrible you fucking retard
    He's a shitty version of Josh Shirley, who wasn't very good. You sure picked a strange horse to hitch your wagon to.
    Im sorry youre so bothered im right about this, and 81% of eveything else