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FO, O. It doesn't matter whether you claim to fly floatplanes or flying boats, the result is the same.OZONE said:
Uprooted because at least you are learning the difference between flying boats and floatplanes.Southerndawg said:pawz said:OZONE said:
If you were better educated you might understand the difference between cowardice and not giving a shit.pawz said:OZONE said:
Here's a quarter so you can buy a clue.pawz said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Collapse Editpawz said:
You didn't fix anything. You assumed.OZONE said:
Fixed it for youpawz said:OZONE said:What about it?
Do you also believe the the British deliberately lured the Germans into sinking the Lusitania in order to draw the USA into the war? And that the British ordered all rescue boats back to port and to not help potential survivors of the Lusitania sinking in order to maximize US casualties and help enrage the US population into entering the war?
I think that is far more likely, than the idea that 9/11 was a hoax.
Let's stay on topic. Since you don't seem to give a shit about my lunatic fringe conspiray, I'll start with an indisputable fact.
Fact #1 - The building was not hit by an airplane.
How did we go from a sturdy, free-standing building to a pile of rubble? What was the process?
Enlighten me.
As the North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building[38] and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon.[7] The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41.[7] The building was equipped with a sprinkler system, but had many single-point vulnerabilities for failure: the sprinkler system required manual initiation of the electrical fire pumps, rather than being a fully automatic system; the floor-level controls had a single connection to the sprinkler water riser; and the sprinkler system required some power for the fire pump to deliver water. Also, water pressure was low, with little or no water to feed sprinklers.[39][40]
After the North Tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts.[41] Over the course of the day, fires burned out of control on several floors of 7 World Trade Center; the flames visible on the east side of the building.[42][43] During the afternoon, fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30.[38] In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[8] At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[44] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[45] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[46] According to FEMA, the building started to collapse at 5:20:33 pm EDT when the east mechanical penthouse started crumbling, but differing times are given as to what time the building completely collapsed—at 5:21:10 pm EDT according to FEMA, and at 5:20:52 pm EDT according to NIST.[6][7][47] There were no casualties associated with the collapse.
The NIST report found no evidence supporting conspiracy theories that 7 World Trade Center was brought down by controlled demolition. Specifically, the window breakage pattern and blast sounds that would have resulted from the use of explosives were not observed.[7] The suggestion that an incendiary material such as thermite was used instead of explosives was considered unlikely by NIST because of observations of the fire and the building's structural response to the fire, and because it is unlikely the necessary quantity of material could have been planted without discovery.[8]
Based on its investigation, NIST reiterated several recommendations it had made in its earlier report on the collapse of the Twin Towers, and urged immediate action on a further recommendation: that fire resistance should be evaluated under the assumption that sprinklers are unavailable; and that the effects of thermal expansion on floor support systems be considered. Recognizing that current building codes are drawn to prevent loss of life rather than building collapse, the main point of NIST's recommendations was that buildings should not collapse from fire even if sprinklers are unavailable.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center#Collapse
So you're saying that it's fire?
@OZONE, true?!
Nobody gives a shit. Except for a few mobile home dwellers.
Coward.
If you were better educated you would know not giving a shit is the cowards way out of critical thinking.
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Seems like you care.Southerndawg said:
It doesn't matterOZONE said:
Uprooted because at least you are learning the difference between flying boats and floatplanes.Southerndawg said:pawz said:OZONE said:
If you were better educated you might understand the difference between cowardice and not giving a shit.pawz said:OZONE said:
Here's a quarter so you can buy a clue.pawz said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Collapse Editpawz said:
You didn't fix anything. You assumed.OZONE said:
Fixed it for youpawz said:OZONE said:What about it?
Do you also believe the the British deliberately lured the Germans into sinking the Lusitania in order to draw the USA into the war? And that the British ordered all rescue boats back to port and to not help potential survivors of the Lusitania sinking in order to maximize US casualties and help enrage the US population into entering the war?
I think that is far more likely, than the idea that 9/11 was a hoax.
Let's stay on topic. Since you don't seem to give a shit about my lunatic fringe conspiray, I'll start with an indisputable fact.
Fact #1 - The building was not hit by an airplane.
How did we go from a sturdy, free-standing building to a pile of rubble? What was the process?
Enlighten me.
As the North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building[38] and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon.[7] The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41.[7] The building was equipped with a sprinkler system, but had many single-point vulnerabilities for failure: the sprinkler system required manual initiation of the electrical fire pumps, rather than being a fully automatic system; the floor-level controls had a single connection to the sprinkler water riser; and the sprinkler system required some power for the fire pump to deliver water. Also, water pressure was low, with little or no water to feed sprinklers.[39][40]
After the North Tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts.[41] Over the course of the day, fires burned out of control on several floors of 7 World Trade Center; the flames visible on the east side of the building.[42][43] During the afternoon, fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30.[38] In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[8] At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[44] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[45] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[46] According to FEMA, the building started to collapse at 5:20:33 pm EDT when the east mechanical penthouse started crumbling, but differing times are given as to what time the building completely collapsed—at 5:21:10 pm EDT according to FEMA, and at 5:20:52 pm EDT according to NIST.[6][7][47] There were no casualties associated with the collapse.
The NIST report found no evidence supporting conspiracy theories that 7 World Trade Center was brought down by controlled demolition. Specifically, the window breakage pattern and blast sounds that would have resulted from the use of explosives were not observed.[7] The suggestion that an incendiary material such as thermite was used instead of explosives was considered unlikely by NIST because of observations of the fire and the building's structural response to the fire, and because it is unlikely the necessary quantity of material could have been planted without discovery.[8]
Based on its investigation, NIST reiterated several recommendations it had made in its earlier report on the collapse of the Twin Towers, and urged immediate action on a further recommendation: that fire resistance should be evaluated under the assumption that sprinklers are unavailable; and that the effects of thermal expansion on floor support systems be considered. Recognizing that current building codes are drawn to prevent loss of life rather than building collapse, the main point of NIST's recommendations was that buildings should not collapse from fire even if sprinklers are unavailable.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center#Collapse
So you're saying that it's fire?
@OZONE, true?!
Nobody gives a shit. Except for a few mobile home dwellers.
Coward.
If you were better educated you would know not giving a shit is the cowards way out of critical thinking. -
No. You've yet to display the characteristics of anything remotely resembling a critical thinker. You're calling names to avoid asking, thinking and pondering tough questions about the narrative.OZONE said:
There aren't any critical thinkers that are on board with the 9/11 conspiracy fringe movement. HTHpawz said:OZONE said:
If you were better educated you might understand the difference between cowardice and not giving a shit.pawz said:OZONE said:
Here's a quarter so you can buy a clue.pawz said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Collapse Editpawz said:
You didn't fix anything. You assumed.OZONE said:
Fixed it for youpawz said:OZONE said:What about it?
Do you also believe the the British deliberately lured the Germans into sinking the Lusitania in order to draw the USA into the war? And that the British ordered all rescue boats back to port and to not help potential survivors of the Lusitania sinking in order to maximize US casualties and help enrage the US population into entering the war?
I think that is far more likely, than the idea that 9/11 was a hoax.
Let's stay on topic. Since you don't seem to give a shit about my lunatic fringe conspiray, I'll start with an indisputable fact.
Fact #1 - The building was not hit by an airplane.
How did we go from a sturdy, free-standing building to a pile of rubble? What was the process?
Enlighten me.
As the North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building[38] and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon.[7] The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41.[7] The building was equipped with a sprinkler system, but had many single-point vulnerabilities for failure: the sprinkler system required manual initiation of the electrical fire pumps, rather than being a fully automatic system; the floor-level controls had a single connection to the sprinkler water riser; and the sprinkler system required some power for the fire pump to deliver water. Also, water pressure was low, with little or no water to feed sprinklers.[39][40]
After the North Tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts.[41] Over the course of the day, fires burned out of control on several floors of 7 World Trade Center; the flames visible on the east side of the building.[42][43] During the afternoon, fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30.[38] In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[8] At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[44] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[45] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[46] According to FEMA, the building started to collapse at 5:20:33 pm EDT when the east mechanical penthouse started crumbling, but differing times are given as to what time the building completely collapsed—at 5:21:10 pm EDT according to FEMA, and at 5:20:52 pm EDT according to NIST.[6][7][47] There were no casualties associated with the collapse.
The NIST report found no evidence supporting conspiracy theories that 7 World Trade Center was brought down by controlled demolition. Specifically, the window breakage pattern and blast sounds that would have resulted from the use of explosives were not observed.[7] The suggestion that an incendiary material such as thermite was used instead of explosives was considered unlikely by NIST because of observations of the fire and the building's structural response to the fire, and because it is unlikely the necessary quantity of material could have been planted without discovery.[8]
Based on its investigation, NIST reiterated several recommendations it had made in its earlier report on the collapse of the Twin Towers, and urged immediate action on a further recommendation: that fire resistance should be evaluated under the assumption that sprinklers are unavailable; and that the effects of thermal expansion on floor support systems be considered. Recognizing that current building codes are drawn to prevent loss of life rather than building collapse, the main point of NIST's recommendations was that buildings should not collapse from fire even if sprinklers are unavailable.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center#Collapse
So you're saying that it's fire?
@OZONE, true?!
Nobody gives a shit. Except for a few mobile home dwellers.
Coward.
If you were better educated you would know not giving a shit is the cowards way out of critical thinking.
For a moment, let's look at the above narrative. The claim is when Bldg 2 fell, it fell into Bldg 7 thus starting 'small' fires in Bldg 7.
Let's for a second go back to 3rd grade Cub Scout and see what is needed to start a fire:
HEAT: Ok, I'll give you this, tremendous weight from falling debris could cause enough pressure (remember chemistry class, pressure = heat) and friction to start a fire.
FUEL: Last I checked, concrete, steel, glass by itself doesn't burn. I guess the carpet (Race?) and other paper and wood products in the building could have ignited. We'll leave this as a question mark.
OXYGEN: When I watch footage of the twin towers fall, what is most prevalent are the billowing clouds of powdered concrete. I don't know about you, but I remember images of people running away with clothes over their mouths trying to get any oxygen they could.
Does this look like the kind of environment that could produce enough oxygen to start a fire, or more likely to put a fire out?
I'll be patiently waiting your critical analysis.
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You pressing, is going to change the fact that I don't give a shit about your fringe lunatic theory.pawz said:
No. You've yet to display the characteristics of anything remotely resembling a critical thinker. You're calling names to avoid asking, thinking and pondering tough questions about the narrative.OZONE said:
There aren't any critical thinkers that are on board with the 9/11 conspiracy fringe movement. HTHpawz said:OZONE said:
If you were better educated you might understand the difference between cowardice and not giving a shit.pawz said:OZONE said:
Here's a quarter so you can buy a clue.pawz said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Collapse Editpawz said:
You didn't fix anything. You assumed.OZONE said:
Fixed it for youpawz said:OZONE said:What about it?
Do you also believe the the British deliberately lured the Germans into sinking the Lusitania in order to draw the USA into the war? And that the British ordered all rescue boats back to port and to not help potential survivors of the Lusitania sinking in order to maximize US casualties and help enrage the US population into entering the war?
I think that is far more likely, than the idea that 9/11 was a hoax.
Let's stay on topic. Since you don't seem to give a shit about my lunatic fringe conspiray, I'll start with an indisputable fact.
Fact #1 - The building was not hit by an airplane.
How did we go from a sturdy, free-standing building to a pile of rubble? What was the process?
Enlighten me.
As the North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building[38] and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon.[7] The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41.[7] The building was equipped with a sprinkler system, but had many single-point vulnerabilities for failure: the sprinkler system required manual initiation of the electrical fire pumps, rather than being a fully automatic system; the floor-level controls had a single connection to the sprinkler water riser; and the sprinkler system required some power for the fire pump to deliver water. Also, water pressure was low, with little or no water to feed sprinklers.[39][40]
After the North Tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts.[41] Over the course of the day, fires burned out of control on several floors of 7 World Trade Center; the flames visible on the east side of the building.[42][43] During the afternoon, fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30.[38] In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[8] At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[44] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[45] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[46] According to FEMA, the building started to collapse at 5:20:33 pm EDT when the east mechanical penthouse started crumbling, but differing times are given as to what time the building completely collapsed—at 5:21:10 pm EDT according to FEMA, and at 5:20:52 pm EDT according to NIST.[6][7][47] There were no casualties associated with the collapse.
The NIST report found no evidence supporting conspiracy theories that 7 World Trade Center was brought down by controlled demolition. Specifically, the window breakage pattern and blast sounds that would have resulted from the use of explosives were not observed.[7] The suggestion that an incendiary material such as thermite was used instead of explosives was considered unlikely by NIST because of observations of the fire and the building's structural response to the fire, and because it is unlikely the necessary quantity of material could have been planted without discovery.[8]
Based on its investigation, NIST reiterated several recommendations it had made in its earlier report on the collapse of the Twin Towers, and urged immediate action on a further recommendation: that fire resistance should be evaluated under the assumption that sprinklers are unavailable; and that the effects of thermal expansion on floor support systems be considered. Recognizing that current building codes are drawn to prevent loss of life rather than building collapse, the main point of NIST's recommendations was that buildings should not collapse from fire even if sprinklers are unavailable.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center#Collapse
So you're saying that it's fire?
@OZONE, true?!
Nobody gives a shit. Except for a few mobile home dwellers.
Coward.
If you were better educated you would know not giving a shit is the cowards way out of critical thinking.
For a moment, let's look at the above narrative. The claim is when Bldg 2 fell, it fell into Bldg 7 thus starting 'small' fires in Bldg 7.
Let's for a second go back to 3rd grade Cub Scout and see what is needed to start a fire:
HEAT: Ok, I'll give you this, tremendous weight from falling debris could cause enough pressure (remember chemistry class, pressure = heat) and friction to start a fire.
FUEL: Last I checked, concrete, steel, glass by itself doesn't burn. I guess the carpet (Race?) and other paper and wood products in the building could have ignited. We'll leave this as a question mark.
OXYGEN: When I watch footage of the twin towers fall, what is most prevalent are the billowing clouds of powdered concrete. I don't know about you, but I remember images of people running away with clothes over their mouths trying to get any oxygen they could.
Does this look like the kind of environment that could produce enough oxygen to start a fire, or more likely to put a fire out?
I'll be patiently waiting your critical analysis. -
OZONE said:
You pressing, is going to change the fact that I don't give a shit about your fringe lunatic theory.pawz said:
No. You've yet to display the characteristics of anything remotely resembling a critical thinker. You're calling names to avoid asking, thinking and pondering tough questions about the narrative.OZONE said:
There aren't any critical thinkers that are on board with the 9/11 conspiracy fringe movement. HTHpawz said:OZONE said:
If you were better educated you might understand the difference between cowardice and not giving a shit.pawz said:OZONE said:
Here's a quarter so you can buy a clue.pawz said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Collapse Editpawz said:
You didn't fix anything. You assumed.OZONE said:
Fixed it for youpawz said:OZONE said:What about it?
Do you also believe the the British deliberately lured the Germans into sinking the Lusitania in order to draw the USA into the war? And that the British ordered all rescue boats back to port and to not help potential survivors of the Lusitania sinking in order to maximize US casualties and help enrage the US population into entering the war?
I think that is far more likely, than the idea that 9/11 was a hoax.
Let's stay on topic. Since you don't seem to give a shit about my lunatic fringe conspiray, I'll start with an indisputable fact.
Fact #1 - The building was not hit by an airplane.
How did we go from a sturdy, free-standing building to a pile of rubble? What was the process?
Enlighten me.
As the North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building[38] and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon.[7] The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41.[7] The building was equipped with a sprinkler system, but had many single-point vulnerabilities for failure: the sprinkler system required manual initiation of the electrical fire pumps, rather than being a fully automatic system; the floor-level controls had a single connection to the sprinkler water riser; and the sprinkler system required some power for the fire pump to deliver water. Also, water pressure was low, with little or no water to feed sprinklers.[39][40]
After the North Tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts.[41] Over the course of the day, fires burned out of control on several floors of 7 World Trade Center; the flames visible on the east side of the building.[42][43] During the afternoon, fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30.[38] In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[8] At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[44] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[45] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[46] According to FEMA, the building started to collapse at 5:20:33 pm EDT when the east mechanical penthouse started crumbling, but differing times are given as to what time the building completely collapsed—at 5:21:10 pm EDT according to FEMA, and at 5:20:52 pm EDT according to NIST.[6][7][47] There were no casualties associated with the collapse.
The NIST report found no evidence supporting conspiracy theories that 7 World Trade Center was brought down by controlled demolition. Specifically, the window breakage pattern and blast sounds that would have resulted from the use of explosives were not observed.[7] The suggestion that an incendiary material such as thermite was used instead of explosives was considered unlikely by NIST because of observations of the fire and the building's structural response to the fire, and because it is unlikely the necessary quantity of material could have been planted without discovery.[8]
Based on its investigation, NIST reiterated several recommendations it had made in its earlier report on the collapse of the Twin Towers, and urged immediate action on a further recommendation: that fire resistance should be evaluated under the assumption that sprinklers are unavailable; and that the effects of thermal expansion on floor support systems be considered. Recognizing that current building codes are drawn to prevent loss of life rather than building collapse, the main point of NIST's recommendations was that buildings should not collapse from fire even if sprinklers are unavailable.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center#Collapse
So you're saying that it's fire?
@OZONE, true?!
Nobody gives a shit. Except for a few mobile home dwellers.
Coward.
If you were better educated you would know not giving a shit is the cowards way out of critical thinking.
For a moment, let's look at the above narrative. The claim is when Bldg 2 fell, it fell into Bldg 7 thus starting 'small' fires in Bldg 7.
Let's for a second go back to 3rd grade Cub Scout and see what is needed to start a fire:
HEAT: Ok, I'll give you this, tremendous weight from falling debris could cause enough pressure (remember chemistry class, pressure = heat) and friction to start a fire.
FUEL: Last I checked, concrete, steel, glass by itself doesn't burn. I guess the carpet (Race?) and other paper and wood products in the building could have ignited. We'll leave this as a question mark.
OXYGEN: When I watch footage of the twin towers fall, what is most prevalent are the billowing clouds of powdered concrete. I don't know about you, but I remember images of people running away with clothes over their mouths trying to get any oxygen they could.
Does this look like the kind of environment that could produce enough oxygen to start a fire, or more likely to put a fire out?
I'll be patiently waiting your critical analysis.
Coward. Run little boy. -
I actually feel a little bad witnessing Pawz pistol-whipping Ozone with conspiracy theories and related questions. All that education and non-mobile home living is doing O no good whatsoever. Sure you got your money's worth, O? Doesn't look like it.
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Do people cover their mouths in search of oxygen? No they cover their mouths because other shit in addition to oxygen wants to get into the lungs.pawz said:
No. You've yet to display the characteristics of anything remotely resembling a critical thinker. You're calling names to avoid asking, thinking and pondering tough questions about the narrative.OZONE said:
There aren't any critical thinkers that are on board with the 9/11 conspiracy fringe movement. HTHpawz said:OZONE said:
If you were better educated you might understand the difference between cowardice and not giving a shit.pawz said:OZONE said:
Here's a quarter so you can buy a clue.pawz said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Collapse Editpawz said:
You didn't fix anything. You assumed.OZONE said:
Fixed it for youpawz said:OZONE said:What about it?
Do you also believe the the British deliberately lured the Germans into sinking the Lusitania in order to draw the USA into the war? And that the British ordered all rescue boats back to port and to not help potential survivors of the Lusitania sinking in order to maximize US casualties and help enrage the US population into entering the war?
I think that is far more likely, than the idea that 9/11 was a hoax.
Let's stay on topic. Since you don't seem to give a shit about my lunatic fringe conspiray, I'll start with an indisputable fact.
Fact #1 - The building was not hit by an airplane.
How did we go from a sturdy, free-standing building to a pile of rubble? What was the process?
Enlighten me.
As the North Tower collapsed on September 11, 2001, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, damaging the south face of the building[38] and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon.[7] The collapse also caused damage to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41.[7] The building was equipped with a sprinkler system, but had many single-point vulnerabilities for failure: the sprinkler system required manual initiation of the electrical fire pumps, rather than being a fully automatic system; the floor-level controls had a single connection to the sprinkler water riser; and the sprinkler system required some power for the fire pump to deliver water. Also, water pressure was low, with little or no water to feed sprinklers.[39][40]
After the North Tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts.[41] Over the course of the day, fires burned out of control on several floors of 7 World Trade Center; the flames visible on the east side of the building.[42][43] During the afternoon, fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30.[38] In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[8] At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[44] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[45] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[46] According to FEMA, the building started to collapse at 5:20:33 pm EDT when the east mechanical penthouse started crumbling, but differing times are given as to what time the building completely collapsed—at 5:21:10 pm EDT according to FEMA, and at 5:20:52 pm EDT according to NIST.[6][7][47] There were no casualties associated with the collapse.
The NIST report found no evidence supporting conspiracy theories that 7 World Trade Center was brought down by controlled demolition. Specifically, the window breakage pattern and blast sounds that would have resulted from the use of explosives were not observed.[7] The suggestion that an incendiary material such as thermite was used instead of explosives was considered unlikely by NIST because of observations of the fire and the building's structural response to the fire, and because it is unlikely the necessary quantity of material could have been planted without discovery.[8]
Based on its investigation, NIST reiterated several recommendations it had made in its earlier report on the collapse of the Twin Towers, and urged immediate action on a further recommendation: that fire resistance should be evaluated under the assumption that sprinklers are unavailable; and that the effects of thermal expansion on floor support systems be considered. Recognizing that current building codes are drawn to prevent loss of life rather than building collapse, the main point of NIST's recommendations was that buildings should not collapse from fire even if sprinklers are unavailable.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center#Collapse
So you're saying that it's fire?
@OZONE, true?!
Nobody gives a shit. Except for a few mobile home dwellers.
Coward.
If you were better educated you would know not giving a shit is the cowards way out of critical thinking.
For a moment, let's look at the above narrative. The claim is when Bldg 2 fell, it fell into Bldg 7 thus starting 'small' fires in Bldg 7.
Let's for a second go back to 3rd grade Cub Scout and see what is needed to start a fire:
HEAT: Ok, I'll give you this, tremendous weight from falling debris could cause enough pressure (remember chemistry class, pressure = heat) and friction to start a fire.
FUEL: Last I checked, concrete, steel, glass by itself doesn't burn. I guess the carpet (Race?) and other paper and wood products in the building could have ignited. We'll leave this as a question mark.
OXYGEN: When I watch footage of the twin towers fall, what is most prevalent are the billowing clouds of powdered concrete. I don't know about you, but I remember images of people running away with clothes over their mouths trying to get any oxygen they could.
Does this look like the kind of environment that could produce enough oxygen to start a fire, or more likely to put a fire out?
I'll be patiently waiting your critical analysis.
Other than that point, you are dialed in, tin foil hat and all.
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Lunatic fringe...I know you're out there
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Comfortably numbFire_Marshall_Bill said:Lunatic fringe...I know you're out there
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Are you not entertained?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Lunatic fringe...I know you're out there
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Plagiarising HHB's shit fucko.MisterEm said:
Are you not entertained?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Lunatic fringe...I know you're out there
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Lunatic Fringe. Conspiracy Theorist.
I haven't offered a theory. I'm just asking questions.
Is it unreasonable to expect those answers withstand the the intellectual integrity of the 3rd grade?
If you can explain why it's more complicated than that, please, I'm all ears.
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The Illuminati did it
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Thats one theory.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The Illuminati did it
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It's official. This thread is now diaper gravy.
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Yeah.. Except I said it in jest...just like the Jews did it..pawz said:
Thats one theory.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The Illuminati did it
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The Jews did 9/11 in jest?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Yeah.. Except I said it in jest...just like the Jews did it..pawz said:
Thats one theory.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The Illuminati did it
That's another theory.
So I'm not allowed to ask questions?
Sacred Cow? Too soon?
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A cloud of dust doesn't have oxygen in it?pawz said:
The Jews did 9/11 in jest?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Yeah.. Except I said it in jest...just like the Jews did it..pawz said:
Thats one theory.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The Illuminati did it
That's another theory.
So I'm not allowed to ask questions?
Sacred Cow? Too soon?
What are you afraid of? Pray tell.
You know that fires don't have lungs, right? -
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A cloud of dust doesn't have oxygen in it?pawz said:
The Jews did 9/11 in jest?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Yeah.. Except I said it in jest...just like the Jews did it..pawz said:
Thats one theory.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The Illuminati did it
That's another theory.
So I'm not allowed to ask questions?
Sacred Cow? Too soon?
What are you afraid of? Pray tell.
You know that fires don't have lungs, right?
