Heroin Task Force charged with combatting heroin epidemic decides that enabling is the best policy.
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I say we give the shit away like candy and let douchebags kill themselves with it.
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After pissing away your life on drugs, ripping off your family and destroying the natural environment with feces, trash and needles, the consequences are a free, safe, warm and dry place to shoot up and crash for several hours on my dime. Poor things. It's not their fault.
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England has been giving smack to junkies since the 70s. They don't have to steal your shit to get high.
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I understand the idea of not wanting to have people die ... I get that
But on the other hand, have these people considered the alternative message that is being sent here that it's perfectly ok to get hopped up on smack and all the things that come with it?
Perhaps the solution is an understanding that opioids in general are extremely dangerous and that we should be looking into alternative methods for relieving pain so that people don't get addicted to opioids to start with. -
I think I'll get high
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Good for England. Seattle will fuck it up and make the problem worse. Guarantee that for every addict this gets off the street, two will arrive to take their place, just like the homeless crisis they'll slide this smack problem under the umbrella of.RaceBannon said:England has been giving smack to junkies since the 70s. They don't have to steal your shit to get high.
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And that fucker Keith Richard has clearly built up his tolerance beyond any recorded human limit.RaceBannon said:England has been giving smack to junkies since the 70s. They don't have to steal your shit to get high.
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The best part? Mayor twinkle toes will probably put this shit up on Aurora instead of the police station that's supposed to be built but he delayed so the minority community is better represented in design decisions.TurdBuffer said:After pissing away your life on drugs, ripping off your family and destroying the natural environment with feces, trash and needles, the consequences are a free, safe, warm and dry place to shoot up and crash for several hours on my dime. Poor things. It's not their fault.
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How many of you have ever been addicted to heroin?
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What difference does it make?PurpleJ said:How many of you have ever been addicted to heroin?
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Hi Hillary.TurdBuffer said:
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Touche. Answer?PurpleJ said: -
You never answered my question in the first place. But troll on douchebag!TurdBuffer said:
Touche. Answer?PurpleJ said:
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Don't go all cunty so fast, J. My answer is no. Your turn.PurpleJ said:
You never answered my question in the first place. But troll on douchebag!TurdBuffer said:
Touche. Answer?PurpleJ said: -
No? I asked how many, fuckass. If I knew how many I wouldn't have asked.TurdBuffer said:
Don't go all cunty so fast, J. My answer is no. Your turn.PurpleJ said:
You never answered my question in the first place. But troll on douchebag!TurdBuffer said:
Touche. Answer?PurpleJ said:
But I guess it's all fun and games if you've never seen the effects of crippling addiction.
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I have seen it, J. In my own family. Which is why I disagree with enabling it while HOPING the addicts will seek treatment on their own. They won't. They don't. Gets them where you can't see them high anymore, which is success in the eyes of liberals. Masking and hiding problems, instead of solving them, is a liberal hallmark.PurpleJ said:
No? I asked how many, fuckass. If I knew how many I wouldn't have asked.TurdBuffer said:
Don't go all cunty so fast, J. My answer is no. Your turn.PurpleJ said:
You never answered my question in the first place. But troll on douchebag!TurdBuffer said:
Touche. Answer?PurpleJ said:
But I guess it's all fun and games if you've never seen the effects of crippling addiction. -
This might be a good time to ask how you'd solve the problem. It must not be easy to solve or it would have been done by someone somewhere already.TurdBuffer said:
I have seen it, J. In my own family. Which is why I disagree with enabling it while HOPING the addicts will seek treatment on their own. They won't. They don't. Gets them where you can't see them high anymore, which is success in the eyes of liberals. Masking and hiding problems, instead of solving them, is a liberal hallmark.PurpleJ said:
No? I asked how many, fuckass. If I knew how many I wouldn't have asked.TurdBuffer said:
Don't go all cunty so fast, J. My answer is no. Your turn.PurpleJ said:
You never answered my question in the first place. But troll on douchebag!TurdBuffer said:
Touche. Answer?PurpleJ said:
But I guess it's all fun and games if you've never seen the effects of crippling addiction. -
You can't solve the human condition.
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there is no solution to this. However if you were to legalize, tax and regulate it and open it up to the free market instead of the fucking drug cartels you'll get a cleaner and safer version of the drug (still bad I get it) and more tax revenue that can be put back in to preventative programs and education. people who don't use heroine now aren't gonna start using because it's legal.
Are there still gonna be people who make bad choices and destroy their bodies? sure. will there be as many? doubt it.
Not necessarily a solution as Heroin is certainly not a drug should clearly be legal like marijuana, but our current system of prohibition sure as hell ain't solving anything. -
it's oftentimes a specific chemical used in the drug and not the drug itself that is so damaging. Alcohol had the same problem back during prohibition when it too was made in bathtubs.
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Do you know what a Venn Diagram is?TurdBuffer said:
Good for England. Seattle will fuck it up and make the problem worse. Guarantee that for every addict this gets off the street, two will arrive to take their place, just like the homeless crisis they'll slide this smack problem under the umbrella of.RaceBannon said:England has been giving smack to junkies since the 70s. They don't have to steal your shit to get high.
In downtown Seattle this shit goes hand-in-hand. They usually are not mutually exclusive. -
As for the proposed injection sites, if the money saved on healthcare outweighs the cost I'm good with it. Otherwise it's just a waste
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Carrot and stick approach. Seattle (and J, apparently) is embracing surrender and hope, because they can't stomach the stick part. They never follow through on anything, which you know if you simply read the papers. Compassion is exploited and laughed at by the urban campers poisoning and destroying our parks and woods, which includes many heroin addicts. I'm not going to spill my guts or brains on every step I'd take, but strict approaches are compassionate in their own right, if you want addicts to stop. Legalization is a different issue, dhdawg, and the way it looks with MJ, legal cartels are replacing the old illegal ones, so, while quality assurance may improve, it has it's own set of issues that keep the free market from doing it's thing. All production will wind up in the hands of a few oligarchs or corporations, just as soon as the lobbyists and politicians they pay cash their checks. Bank it.
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you aren't wrong. the cigarette industry is a good example. Ban it? no. But the regulation on it has been piss poor.TurdBuffer said:Carrot and stick approach. Seattle (and J, apparently) is embracing surrender and hope, because they can't stomach the stick part. They never follow through on anything, which you know if you simply read the papers. Compassion is exploited and laughed at by the urban campers poisoning and destroying our parks and woods, which includes many heroin addicts. I'm not going to spill my guts or brains on every step I'd take, but strict approaches are compassionate in their own right, if you want addicts to stop. Legalization is a different issue, dhdawg, and the way it looks with MJ, legal cartels are replacing the old illegal ones, so, while quality assurance may improve, it has it's own set of issues that keep the free market from doing it's thing. All production will wind up in the hands of a few oligarchs or corporations, just as soon as the lobbyists and politicians they pay cash their checks. Bank it.
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It's Seattle, dude. Think "Pronto" and "10 year plan to end homelessness" and "Bertha" and "cost overruns." I.e., there will be no "savings" to point to. At best, it's a shell game. At worst, the problem just grows uncontrollably and mitigation efforts are unsustainable - in this city that just loves that fucking word.dhdawg said:As for the proposed injection sites, if the money saved on healthcare outweighs the cost I'm good with it. Otherwise it's just a waste
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"Pronto," isn't that the bikeshare program that nobody uses?
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That's a whole different ball of wax. This issue is about dealing with a growing, dangerous, expensive, destructive problem in the most effective and moral manner.dhdawg said:
you aren't wrong. the cigarette industry is a good example. Ban it? no. But the regulation on it has been piss poor.TurdBuffer said:Carrot and stick approach. Seattle (and J, apparently) is embracing surrender and hope, because they can't stomach the stick part. They never follow through on anything, which you know if you simply read the papers. Compassion is exploited and laughed at by the urban campers poisoning and destroying our parks and woods, which includes many heroin addicts. I'm not going to spill my guts or brains on every step I'd take, but strict approaches are compassionate in their own right, if you want addicts to stop. Legalization is a different issue, dhdawg, and the way it looks with MJ, legal cartels are replacing the old illegal ones, so, while quality assurance may improve, it has it's own set of issues that keep the free market from doing it's thing. All production will wind up in the hands of a few oligarchs or corporations, just as soon as the lobbyists and politicians they pay cash their checks. Bank it.
Fuckin' A!dhdawg said:"Pronto," isn't that the bikeshare program that nobody uses?
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Then shut the fuck up.TurdBuffer said: -
The weasel squeeks his protest!doogsinparadise said:
Then shut the fuck up.TurdBuffer said: -
Still waiting for a decent poast out of your syphilitic cunt.
