The Solicialist Utopia of Venezuela has Issues...
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Not Sweden. Ask the women. Not a real socialist country anyway.Baphomet said:
Sweden.Sledog said:
Quick name a socialist regime in power that was honest? Can't run Bernies plan on 50%. As I've said to others if you want to give away money I'll willingly accept it.dhdawg said:His highest Tax bracket was low 50's and almost everyone's taxes would not have gone up at all actually
Your turn.
Name a capitalist regime that was honest. -
We agree that government is evil, but how do we know it's necessary when we haven't tried going without?2001400ex said:Ah the anti government people just showed up. I like it. Yes government is shitty. Yes taxes suck. Yes some regulations are bullshit. But this is a fact: Government is a necessary evil. I'm with ya on arguing that government is too intrusive and other shit. But you can't argue that corporations will act in the people's best interest.
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Don't go full retard.Fenderbender123 said:
We agree that government is evil, but how do we know it's necessary when we haven't tried going without?2001400ex said:Ah the anti government people just showed up. I like it. Yes government is shitty. Yes taxes suck. Yes some regulations are bullshit. But this is a fact: Government is a necessary evil. I'm with ya on arguing that government is too intrusive and other shit. But you can't argue that corporations will act in the people's best interest.
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Even grundle sees how fucktarded that is. First, do you think or current government has been here since the 1700s? There was barely even a currency or formal taxation then. Second, we had a period of deregulation from the beginning of Reagan's term that ended in 2008. The result was the worst recession since 1930.Fenderbender123 said:
We agree that government is evil, but how do we know it's necessary when we haven't tried going without?2001400ex said:Ah the anti government people just showed up. I like it. Yes government is shitty. Yes taxes suck. Yes some regulations are bullshit. But this is a fact: Government is a necessary evil. I'm with ya on arguing that government is too intrusive and other shit. But you can't argue that corporations will act in the people's best interest.
If let run loose, corporations will do anything they can to make a profit. And taxpayers are the ones left holding the bag.
The problem is finding the right balance of regulation and free market.
As I've said, no country will be successful with pure capitalism or pure communism. -
Just like you think you'd be safe & sound in national socialism, I'd like to think I'd be OK! in anarchy.2001400ex said:
Even grundle sees how fucktarded that is. First, do you think or current government has been here since the 1700s? There was barely even a currency or formal taxation then. Second, we had a period of deregulation from the beginning of Reagan's term that ended in 2008. The result was the worst recession since 1930.Fenderbender123 said:
We agree that government is evil, but how do we know it's necessary when we haven't tried going without?2001400ex said:Ah the anti government people just showed up. I like it. Yes government is shitty. Yes taxes suck. Yes some regulations are bullshit. But this is a fact: Government is a necessary evil. I'm with ya on arguing that government is too intrusive and other shit. But you can't argue that corporations will act in the people's best interest.
If let run loose, corporations will do anything they can to make a profit. And taxpayers are the ones left holding the bag.
The problem is finding the right balance of regulation and free market.
As I've said, no country will be successful with pure capitalism or pure communism.
Your fucknut buddies in the blalallalalalalalalalalalklavas would be shot dead in seconds with impunity by Starbucks Security in the anarchic system they seek. -
The government printing money is the biggest problem. We have so many regulations and laws I doubt we really know how many there are. Deregulation since the 30's? Don't see it. The government is the only unrestrained one.2001400ex said:
Even grundle sees how fucktarded that is. First, do you think or current government has been here since the 1700s? There was barely even a currency or formal taxation then. Second, we had a period of deregulation from the beginning of Reagan's term that ended in 2008. The result was the worst recession since 1930.Fenderbender123 said:
We agree that government is evil, but how do we know it's necessary when we haven't tried going without?2001400ex said:Ah the anti government people just showed up. I like it. Yes government is shitty. Yes taxes suck. Yes some regulations are bullshit. But this is a fact: Government is a necessary evil. I'm with ya on arguing that government is too intrusive and other shit. But you can't argue that corporations will act in the people's best interest.
If let run loose, corporations will do anything they can to make a profit. And taxpayers are the ones left holding the bag.
The problem is finding the right balance of regulation and free market.
As I've said, no country will be successful with pure capitalism or pure communism. -
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I fucked up the quotes and forgot what I was gonna say and who I was responding to. But I'm pretty sure the point I was gonna make is that I'm definitely right about everything I posted in this thread. -
Since the 30s? Where did you read that? The great depression in 1929 started a period of regulation from then through the 70s. When those regulations were rolled back from early 80s through 2008.Sledog said:
The government printing money is the biggest problem. We have so many regulations and laws I doubt we really know how many there are. Deregulation since the 30's? Don't see it. The government is the only unrestrained one.2001400ex said:
Even grundle sees how fucktarded that is. First, do you think or current government has been here since the 1700s? There was barely even a currency or formal taxation then. Second, we had a period of deregulation from the beginning of Reagan's term that ended in 2008. The result was the worst recession since 1930.Fenderbender123 said:
We agree that government is evil, but how do we know it's necessary when we haven't tried going without?2001400ex said:Ah the anti government people just showed up. I like it. Yes government is shitty. Yes taxes suck. Yes some regulations are bullshit. But this is a fact: Government is a necessary evil. I'm with ya on arguing that government is too intrusive and other shit. But you can't argue that corporations will act in the people's best interest.
If let run loose, corporations will do anything they can to make a profit. And taxpayers are the ones left holding the bag.
The problem is finding the right balance of regulation and free market.
As I've said, no country will be successful with pure capitalism or pure communism.
Clearly history is lost on you. -
I'm actually searching for 80s communist Russia. They were tuff.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Just like you think you'd be safe & sound in national socialism, I'd like to think I'd be OK! in anarchy.2001400ex said:
Even grundle sees how fucktarded that is. First, do you think or current government has been here since the 1700s? There was barely even a currency or formal taxation then. Second, we had a period of deregulation from the beginning of Reagan's term that ended in 2008. The result was the worst recession since 1930.Fenderbender123 said:
We agree that government is evil, but how do we know it's necessary when we haven't tried going without?2001400ex said:Ah the anti government people just showed up. I like it. Yes government is shitty. Yes taxes suck. Yes some regulations are bullshit. But this is a fact: Government is a necessary evil. I'm with ya on arguing that government is too intrusive and other shit. But you can't argue that corporations will act in the people's best interest.
If let run loose, corporations will do anything they can to make a profit. And taxpayers are the ones left holding the bag.
The problem is finding the right balance of regulation and free market.
As I've said, no country will be successful with pure capitalism or pure communism.
Your fucknut buddies in the blalallalalalalalalalalalklavas would be shot dead in seconds with impunity by Starbucks Security in the anarchic system they seek. -
Forbes 500 what? CEO's?pawz said:
Fun fact: less than a quarter of the Forbes 500 inherited wealth. The overwhelming majority are self-made.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
You do know that a lot of the rich inherited their wealth, right? No, you probably don't.Sledog said:
Taking from the productive to support the lazy and illegal to the tune of 90% of your wagges seems intrusive to me. If it's not to you send me 40%.2001400ex said:
How did Bernie want more coercive control over people's lives?GrundleStiltzkin said:
Bernie wants even greater coercive control over people's lives. That's bad enough.dhdawg said:
Sanders was good in some ways and bad in others.GrundleStiltzkin said:Only here to say fuck Bernie Sanders, with all integrity and honesty & independence & shit.
However he was not proposing a system similar to venzuela, nor even close to one.
