A Teardown a Day-Bulldozing-the-Way for Bigger Homes in Seattle Suburbs
This was a post in the comments section. Wonder which HH poaster it was?
"The people here are passive-aggressively hostile and unfriendly. Many of them are not from here, and because of this have no real friends from Seattle.
It is cool, cloudy and drizzly 9-10 months of the year - that's non-stop - as in gray skys and NO sunshine. With no friends and you stuck inside for 10 months, you will become severely depressed just like the vast majority of the other invaders.
And then you have the hostility of the Seattle natives. The people who were born and raised here, and have called this their home for all of their life. We HATE the invaders. We give them the cold shoulder, ignore them and avoid them like the plague.
You see, it's very simple. Seattle used to be a great home - 25 plus years ago. Most of the people living here were native to Seattle. Seattle was a large city with a small town feel. High quality-of-life, low congestion and low cost-of-living. Yes the weather sucked, but we were used to it and really knew nothing different and considered it normal.
There was a Seattle cultural identity that one was born into. A culture that was formed by a life long exposure to a peculiar climate and geographical isolation. This shared isolation forged life long friendships and familiarity with fellow-native idiosyncrasies, creating a culturally unique community. Seattlites took great pride in being different. You are either a Seattlite or not. And yes, this same social paradigm exists for all of the Seattle suburbs like Bellevue, Redmond, Issaquah, Renton, Kent, ETC. Basically the entire Seattle region.
In 1979 Bill Gates and Paul Allen decided to move their merry little band of tech dorks from New Mexico to Seattle. Shortly thereafter began the introverted nerd invasion. The presence of so many invading nouveau-rich out-of-towners completely changed and ruined Seattle. Cost-of-living and congestion skyrocketed. Quality-of-life was plundered.
Every new person moving here makes the already horrific traffic worse and raises what has become an unreasonable cost of living. You moving here will only intensify the problem. And no, there is nothing special about "You" that makes you an exception to the rule. You can't move here and "become" a Seattlite, or "join the club" as many have tried. We used to loath the California invaders, but since the invasion began we have expanded our sentiments to include people from every corner of the globe - literally.
Before you are tempted to yell "xenophobia!", let it be known that Seattle natives are not frightened of other cultures. Seattle is, and always has been, a culturally diverse city. It is a matter of too many people being crammed into a small area, and the precipitous drop in quality of life as a result, that is the problem.
In a nutshell, Seattle natives HATE invaders. We don't want you here - anymore than we would want the neighbors dog to use our lawn as a toilet. We will not make friends with you. We already have our native friends."
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Fuck off @TequillaHFNY said:seattletimes.com/business/real-estate/a-teardown-a-day-bulldozing-the-way-for-bigger-homes-in-seattle-suburbs/
This was a post in the comments section. Wonder which HH poaster it was?
"The people here are passive-aggressively hostile and unfriendly. Many of them are not from here, and because of this have no real friends from Seattle.
It is cool, cloudy and drizzly 9-10 months of the year - that's non-stop - as in gray skys and NO sunshine. With no friends and you stuck inside for 10 months, you will become severely depressed just like the vast majority of the other invaders.
And then you have the hostility of the Seattle natives. The people who were born and raised here, and have called this their home for all of their life. We HATE the invaders. We give them the cold shoulder, ignore them and avoid them like the plague.
You see, it's very simple. Seattle used to be a great home - 25 plus years ago. Most of the people living here were native to Seattle. Seattle was a large city with a small town feel. High quality-of-life, low congestion and low cost-of-living. Yes the weather sucked, but we were used to it and really knew nothing different and considered it normal.
There was a Seattle cultural identity that one was born into. A culture that was formed by a life long exposure to a peculiar climate and geographical isolation. This shared isolation forged life long friendships and familiarity with fellow-native idiosyncrasies, creating a culturally unique community. Seattlites took great pride in being different. You are either a Seattlite or not. And yes, this same social paradigm exists for all of the Seattle suburbs like Bellevue, Redmond, Issaquah, Renton, Kent, ETC. Basically the entire Seattle region.
In 1979 Bill Gates and Paul Allen decided to move their merry little band of tech dorks from New Mexico to Seattle. Shortly thereafter began the introverted nerd invasion. The presence of so many invading nouveau-rich out-of-towners completely changed and ruined Seattle. Cost-of-living and congestion skyrocketed. Quality-of-life was plundered.
Every new person moving here makes the already horrific traffic worse and raises what has become an unreasonable cost of living. You moving here will only intensify the problem. And no, there is nothing special about "You" that makes you an exception to the rule. You can't move here and "become" a Seattlite, or "join the club" as many have tried. We used to loath the California invaders, but since the invasion began we have expanded our sentiments to include people from every corner of the globe - literally.
Before you are tempted to yell "xenophobia!", let it be known that Seattle natives are not frightened of other cultures. Seattle is, and always has been, a culturally diverse city. It is a matter of too many people being crammed into a small area, and the precipitous drop in quality of life as a result, that is the problem.
In a nutshell, Seattle natives HATE invaders. We don't want you here - anymore than we would want the neighbors dog to use our lawn as a toilet. We will not make friends with you. We already have our native friends." -
He's right, except I hate people that were born here too.
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I miss Emmett Watson dammit! Are you guys familiar with KBO?
The KBO's raison d'être was to protest the irritating and prolonged immigration of newcomers into the Puget Sound region, especially to Seattle. They clogged the roads, spent too much money bidding up prices, did not understand the "NorthWest way of life" and just generally made trouble, ... hence the KBO's mission statement. Watson periodically suggested actions that KBO members could take to make "immigrants" (perhaps especially Californians) uncomfortable, and, hopefully, encourage them to leave. Readers and others occasionally observed that it was all a sort of joke, and Watson sometimes responded that people could think what they liked, but that he would continue to promote the KBO as one way to deal with the decrease in the quality of life in the Pacific Northwest and especially in Western Washington. -
That shit is so real.
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My cousin and husband moved here about 4 years ago. They now want to give Sound Transit $54 billion ($100.44 billion if their cost overrun hit 86% again) and are happy to vote for everyone else's taxes to go up.
I'd rather give ST $10 to $15 billion and see if their can lower their cost overruns before voting on the other $40 billion but maybe I'm too reasonable for Seattle now. -
Pics of your cousin?HFNY said:My cousin and husband moved here about 4 years ago. They now want to give Sound Transit $54 billion ($100.44 billion if their cost overrun hit 86% again) and are happy to vote for everyone else's taxes to go up.
I'd rather give ST $10 to $15 billion and see if their can lower their cost overruns before voting on the other $40 billion but maybe I'm too reasonable for Seattle now. -
Pics of your husband?HFNY said:My cousin and husband moved here about 4 years ago. They now want to give Sound Transit $54 billion ($100.44 billion if their cost overrun hit 86% again) and are happy to vote for everyone else's taxes to go up.
I'd rather give ST $10 to $15 billion and see if their can lower their cost overruns before voting on the other $40 billion but maybe I'm too reasonable for Seattle now. -
Boobs isn't familiar with the KBO. That's what you get for growing up in Oregon
The organization was mostly anti-California, but Oregon was a very close second, as that state had essentially been compromised by California agitators by the mid 60's
Most people think it was fictional, but there are still a few splinter cells around. Deep underground, they meet monthly in the bowels of Pike Place Market
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There was another invasion much earlier than MSFT. That was the invasion of people that came here for Boeing in the 60s. My grand father was one, came here from Allentown PA. He worked there for 40 years, and my grandmother still has their house in the Ravenna neighborhood. My dad and uncle could walk from home to high school at Roosevelt.HFNY said:seattletimes.com/business/real-estate/a-teardown-a-day-bulldozing-the-way-for-bigger-homes-in-seattle-suburbs/
In 1979 Bill Gates and Paul Allen decided to move their merry little band of tech dorks from New Mexico to Seattle. Shortly thereafter began the introverted nerd invasion. The presence of so many invading nouveau-rich out-of-towners completely changed and ruined Seattle. Cost-of-living and congestion skyrocketed. Quality-of-life was plundered.
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In a nutshell, Seattle natives HATE invaders. We don't want you here - anymore than we would want the neighbors dog to use our lawn as a toilet. We will not make friends with you. We already have our native friends.
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Across the street from their house, is the old farm house for the farm that used to be in that part of present day Ravenna. The old grouch that is the son of the guy that sold his farm off so that all of the new homes could be built in Ravenna in the 30s and 40s and 50s hated outsiders too, and would always yell at anybody that parked on the street in front of his house. Said that part of the street was only for him to park in. As a kid in the early 70s, my uncle and I would throw eggs at this guys house just because he was such a prick. We were outsiders back then.
Now I guess we are the insiders, because I'm a 3rd generation Seattle resident that can still remember how good the 1984 Huskies were when they kicked Oklahoma's ass in the Orange Bowl.
Today, I'm thinking of selling the house I've lived in for 25 years. Bought it for 160K, and a realtor told me last month I can probably get 750K for it now (big corner lot). I can walk to Green Lake and the U-Dub from here, but the neighborhood is full of people I don't know and my neighbor is a duck who plays soccer with his kids and just fucking pisses me off.
I know. Cool story. I'll fuck off.
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Seattle has always sucked
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You're from Olympia and you have no leg to stand on in this argument.RaceBannon said:Seattle has always sucked
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Yeah sure. We don't want you here. But, leave your meteoric rise in real estate values, ok?
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Property values are a dumb way to value an economy.doogie said:Yeah sure. We don't want you here. But, leave your meteoric rise in real estate values, ok?
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Seattle was a great town to be in for college. Other than that is sucks. Oh, and half the reason it was good in college was we had good football in the 90's. Now I can't think of one redeeming quality of Seattle that isn't offset by something else that sucks worse.
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This is more or less how I feel. I still like it here as long as people leave me the fuck alone, or when I'm hiking or skiing 90 minutes from my front door. And I'll grant that there's some fun bars, and good restaurants, etc. But the majority of the assholes moving in here over the last 15 years have finally conspired to suck out any real sense of pride I used to have in the city (the burbs can fuck off).Swaye said:Seattle was a great town to be in for college. Other than that is sucks. Oh, and half the reason it was good in college was we had good football in the 90's. Now I can't think of one redeeming quality of Seattle that isn't offset by something else that sucks worse.
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A couple years ago I was actually in Seattle for the first time in a few years. Went down to North Admiral, one of my old stomping grounds in the 90's. Completely unrecognizable. It looked like a mix of condo's and trendy shopping areas threw up all over it. Next headed down towards Lincoln Park and noted tons of the houses had been torn down and replaced with these stupid fucking contemporary shoe box monstrosities. Seattle used to have some charm. Mostly ruined now. FTP.doogsinparadise said:
This is more or less how I feel. I still like it here as long as people leave me the fuck alone, or when I'm hiking or skiing 90 minutes from my front door. And I'll grant that there's some fun bars, and good restaurants, etc. But the majority of the assholes moving in here over the last 15 years have finally conspired to suck out any real sense of pride I used to have in the city (the burbs can fuck off).Swaye said:Seattle was a great town to be in for college. Other than that is sucks. Oh, and half the reason it was good in college was we had good football in the 90's. Now I can't think of one redeeming quality of Seattle that isn't offset by something else that sucks worse.
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There are a ton of reasons to complain about Seattle but the weather is not one of them.
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DisagreeCuntWaffle said:There are a ton of reasons to complain about Seattle but the weather is not one of them.
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My cousin and her husband both make pretty good money. He's a lawyer and she's an actuary. All they can get is this tiny house near Franklin HS. It's not a shithole or anything, but I doubt it's more than 1100 sq ft. It's not in the ghetto but it sure isn't in the nice part of Mt. Baker either. Typical non-Trump white people too...they're close to 40 and no kids...we need more non-white trash to have kids, damnit..
Anyway, that's Seattle for you unless you're in the top...three percent...
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31 years in Seattledoogsinparadise said:
You're from Olympia and you have no leg to stand on in this argument.RaceBannon said:Seattle has always sucked
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versus 31,000 years in OlympiaRaceBannon said:
31 years in Seattledoogsinparadise said:
You're from Olympia and you have no leg to stand on in this argument.RaceBannon said:Seattle has always sucked
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You prefer 100+ in the summer with humidity or 0 in the winter with snow everywhere all the time?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
DisagreeCuntWaffle said:There are a ton of reasons to complain about Seattle but the weather is not one of them.
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That isn't specific to Seattle, though. Take a drive through any city you used to know, and you'll find out you don't know what the fuck happened.Swaye said:Seattle was a great town to be in for college. Other than that is sucks. Oh, and half the reason it was good in college was we had good football in the 90's. Now I can't think of one redeeming quality of Seattle that isn't offset by something else that sucks worse.
The last time I visited relatives in Chicago, I was thinking the same thing - THIS is what people are looking for in a neighborhood?
I'm thinking about looking for a place out toward Shelton now, as Olympia has become a shitshow of fucktards, and every time I go to the west side, I almost flip the fuck out. Of course, that means a longer commute and the traffic is what sucks most about the greater Puget Sound area these days.
The weather is a non-issue for me. The rain means snow in the mountains, which means water and fish in the rivers, and I like being able to access fish, crab, shrimp, deer and elk close to home - although WDFW seems hell bent on fucking that all up, too. I also like that I can be so far from people that you'd die alone in the woods not more than an hour from here.
I think part of it is that I'm getting so old that I holler at kids to get off my fucking lawn, and would rather listen to Powerage for the 27 thousandth time than listen to the shit called music today. I should probably move out to a small town, and cultivate some criminal enterprise to pay the bills. Then I wouldn't be bothered by fuckheads of traffic, and could just kill a deer in the back yard.
I guess before I talk too much shit about invaders, I have to remember that my family invaded here in 1970. My dad was recruited by the hospital in Shelton, and I just got drug along, so fuck off with the invader label on me. I was an unwilling participant, but I'm not going anywhere else, because western Washington still kicks ass, only less so than it used to. If people knew how to fucking drive, the traffic wouldn't be nearly the issue it is. I was in a half mile backup yesterday because a dud was changing a flat on the shoulder - what in the actual fuck is wrong with people that can't just drive past that without turning it into an incident? Fuck.
Today, I'm going to grill some steaks, and then serve them with dungeness crab cocktails and razor clam fritters. And since I don't have to drive anywhere, it will be a nice afternoon. Sure you could do the same elsewhere, but crab cocktail and clam fritters just taste better when you did the harvesting.
Interesting thread. I like to get Race's input on what it was like here in ancient times, too.
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I like the weather. Nothing better than tromping around in the woods on a "miserable" day.CuntWaffle said:There are a ton of reasons to complain about Seattle but the weather is not one of them.
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White Center isn't really Seattle.RaceBannon said:
31 years in Seattledoogsinparadise said:
You're from Olympia and you have no leg to stand on in this argument.RaceBannon said:Seattle has always sucked
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White Power is really Seattle though.OZONE said:
White Center isn't really Seattle.RaceBannon said:
31 years in Seattledoogsinparadise said:
You're from Olympia and you have no leg to stand on in this argument.RaceBannon said:Seattle has always sucked
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Sounds like you live in my neighborhood, but I don't wear duck gear or have kids.Your_Mom said:
There was another invasion much earlier than MSFT. That was the invasion of people that came here for Boeing in the 60s. My grand father was one, came here from Allentown PA. He worked there for 40 years, and my grandmother still has their house in the Ravenna neighborhood. My dad and uncle could walk from home to high school at Roosevelt.HFNY said:seattletimes.com/business/real-estate/a-teardown-a-day-bulldozing-the-way-for-bigger-homes-in-seattle-suburbs/
In 1979 Bill Gates and Paul Allen decided to move their merry little band of tech dorks from New Mexico to Seattle. Shortly thereafter began the introverted nerd invasion. The presence of so many invading nouveau-rich out-of-towners completely changed and ruined Seattle. Cost-of-living and congestion skyrocketed. Quality-of-life was plundered.
* snip for brevity *
In a nutshell, Seattle natives HATE invaders. We don't want you here - anymore than we would want the neighbors dog to use our lawn as a toilet. We will not make friends with you. We already have our native friends.
* snip for brevity *
Across the street from their house, is the old farm house for the farm that used to be in that part of present day Ravenna. The old grouch that is the son of the guy that sold his farm off so that all of the new homes could be built in Ravenna in the 30s and 40s and 50s hated outsiders too, and would always yell at anybody that parked on the street in front of his house. Said that part of the street was only for him to park in. As a kid in the early 70s, my uncle and I would throw eggs at this guys house just because he was such a prick. We were outsiders back then.
Now I guess we are the insiders, because I'm a 3rd generation Seattle resident that can still remember how good the 1984 Huskies were when they kicked Oklahoma's ass in the Orange Bowl.
Today, I'm thinking of selling the house I've lived in for 25 years. Bought it for 160K, and a realtor told me last month I can probably get 750K for it now (big corner lot). I can walk to Green Lake and the U-Dub from here, but the neighborhood is full of people I don't know and my neighbor is a duck who plays soccer with his kids and just fucking pisses me off.
I know. Cool story. I'll fuck off.
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Seattle is cool, except for the poor people and the geek squad loosers that have moved here.
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*Losers.ThomasFremont said:Seattle is cool, except for the poor people and the geek squad loosers that have moved here.
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Abundance????CuntWaffle said:
You prefer 100+ in the summer with humidity or 0 in the winter with snow everywhere all the time?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
DisagreeCuntWaffle said:There are a ton of reasons to complain about Seattle but the weather is not one of them.
