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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    I've already told you I don't have 2 dad's. I'm not an attorney. Of course it's hard not to laugh about a guy named ballsasked talking about 2 dads.
    Holy fuck man. PM @IrishDawg22 he's back.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,865 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Show me where it says they can't. Further, show me where the Constitution says a dude can marry a woman.
    I suggest you read up on the founders and what they thought. Of course the government used to print bibles to distribute to the schools where it was studied but then I'm sure you knew that.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    I suggest you read up on the founders and what they thought. Of course the government used to print bibles to distribute to the schools where it was studied but then I'm sure you knew that.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/billflax/2012/09/25/was-america-founded-as-a-christian-nation/#6931dbb64cd9

    One of many many sources that show how fucktarded you are.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,865 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/billflax/2012/09/25/was-america-founded-as-a-christian-nation/#6931dbb64cd9

    One of many many sources that show how fucktarded you are.
    Just proves they know as little as you.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    Just proves they know as little as you.
    Forbes is conservative and respected.

    Two things you aren't.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,865 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/billflax/2012/09/25/was-america-founded-as-a-christian-nation/#6931dbb64cd9

    One of many many sources that show how fucktarded you are.
    Yeah this small sample don't mean a thing.........

    John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams is a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and our second President.

    George Washington, General of the Revolutionary Army, president of the Constitutional Convention, First President of the United States of America, Father of our nation, " Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society."

    John Jay, Original Chief-Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court , "The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and in the next. Continue therefore to read it and to regulate your life by its precepts."

    Benjamin Franklin, Signer of the Declaration of Independence "[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

    "Whereas true religion and good morals are the only solid foundations of public liberty and happiness . . . it is hereby earnestly recommended to the several States to take the most effectual measures for the encouragement thereof." Continental Congress, 1778

    Gouverneur Morris, Penman and Signer of the Constitution. "[F]or avoiding the extremes of despotism or anarchy . . . the only ground of hope must be on the morals of the people. I believe that religion is the only solid base of morals and that morals are the only possible support of free governments. [T]herefore education should teach the precepts of religion and the duties of man towards God."

    Noah Webster, author of the first American Speller and the first Dictionary said, "[T]he Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . . . and I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of that religion have not a controlling influence."

    Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration of Independence said. "[T]he only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be aid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments. Without religion, I believe that learning does real mischief to the morals and principles of mankind."
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    Yeah this small sample don't mean a thing.........

    John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams is a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and our second President.

    George Washington, General of the Revolutionary Army, president of the Constitutional Convention, First President of the United States of America, Father of our nation, " Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society."

    John Jay, Original Chief-Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court , "The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and in the next. Continue therefore to read it and to regulate your life by its precepts."

    Benjamin Franklin, Signer of the Declaration of Independence "[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

    "Whereas true religion and good morals are the only solid foundations of public liberty and happiness . . . it is hereby earnestly recommended to the several States to take the most effectual measures for the encouragement thereof." Continental Congress, 1778

    Gouverneur Morris, Penman and Signer of the Constitution. "[F]or avoiding the extremes of despotism or anarchy . . . the only ground of hope must be on the morals of the people. I believe that religion is the only solid base of morals and that morals are the only possible support of free governments. [T]herefore education should teach the precepts of religion and the duties of man towards God."

    Noah Webster, author of the first American Speller and the first Dictionary said, "[T]he Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . . . and I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of that religion have not a controlling influence."

    Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration of Independence said. "[T]he only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be aid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments. Without religion, I believe that learning does real mischief to the morals and principles of mankind."
    Disagree
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,999 Standard Supporter
    @Sledog: Next time you get drunk and shit all over the floor, don't roll in it. It just makes everything worse.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,865 Standard Supporter

    Disagree
    Sven didn't notice your signature on the declaration. Don't know if any were Swedish Lutherans but I doubt it.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,865 Standard Supporter

    @Sledog: Next time you get drunk and shit all over the floor, don't roll in it. It just makes everything worse.

    Yeah you guys really kicked my ass! Next time bring a stool so you can reach it!
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,713 Founders Club

    Everyone that didn't vote for Sledog in the most hated pole should be ashamed of themselves.

    I am still very comfortable with my Chest vote.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Yeah this small sample don't mean a thing.........

    John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798 warned his fellow countrymen stating, "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams is a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and our second President.

    George Washington, General of the Revolutionary Army, president of the Constitutional Convention, First President of the United States of America, Father of our nation, " Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society."

    John Jay, Original Chief-Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court , "The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and in the next. Continue therefore to read it and to regulate your life by its precepts."

    Benjamin Franklin, Signer of the Declaration of Independence "[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

    "Whereas true religion and good morals are the only solid foundations of public liberty and happiness . . . it is hereby earnestly recommended to the several States to take the most effectual measures for the encouragement thereof." Continental Congress, 1778

    Gouverneur Morris, Penman and Signer of the Constitution. "[F]or avoiding the extremes of despotism or anarchy . . . the only ground of hope must be on the morals of the people. I believe that religion is the only solid base of morals and that morals are the only possible support of free governments. [T]herefore education should teach the precepts of religion and the duties of man towards God."

    Noah Webster, author of the first American Speller and the first Dictionary said, "[T]he Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . . . and I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of that religion have not a controlling influence."

    Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration of Independence said. "[T]he only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be aid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments. Without religion, I believe that learning does real mischief to the morals and principles of mankind."
    First, there were many founding fathers, yes some were religious. No one has argued that. Second, notice how all but one of your quotes says "religion" and do not clarify Christianity? Don't you think freedom of religion was important to them? Wait, I read that somewhere.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,326 Founders Club

    The founders took great care not to empower (and/or demean) any organized religion with state backing, but the author's article doesn't fully support his own conclusion. At least along the way he recognizes the central role that Christianity, particularly its values and morals, played in founding this nation and it's highest laws. I'm not a religious person, but there is no way to objectively ignore this simple fact.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    Forbes is conservative and respected.

    Two things you aren't.
    You mean in a Mitt Romney 'conseeeervative' sorta way, right?
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,713 Founders Club
    If I were to change my vote at all it would be for BallBag. What a fucking imbecile.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457


    The founders took great care not to empower (and/or demean) any organized religion with state backing, but the author's article doesn't fully support his own conclusion. At least along the way he recognizes the central role that Christianity, particularly its values and morals, played in founding this nation and it's highest laws. I'm not a religious person, but there is no way to objectively ignore this simple fact.

    I do believe in a higher power. But my beliefs should not be projected to the nation as whole. Which is central to what the founding fathers believed. It's not just that article that states this, research it. Freedom of religion is the first clue.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited July 2016
    Nothing you believe should be projected toward another human being.

    Fuck off
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    edited July 2016

    Everyone that didn't vote for Sledog in the most hated pole should be ashamed of themselves.

    I voted for Derek because I like sigs and Harv.

    But still
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,865 Standard Supporter


    The founders took great care not to empower (and/or demean) any organized religion with state backing, but the author's article doesn't fully support his own conclusion. At least along the way he recognizes the central role that Christianity, particularly its values and morals, played in founding this nation and it's highest laws. I'm not a religious person, but there is no way to objectively ignore this simple fact.

    Absolutely correct. They do not say there is a state religion and we're careful not to create one. They had just seperated us from a tyranical monarchy with a state religion many didnt agree with since it was controlled by the monarchy.

    No mention of the separation of church and state either. All that means is no state mandated religion. You can skew this any way you want but the founders made their thoughts known.

    Odd though they open Congress every day with a prayer.

    I'm just tired of idiots trying to reinterpret, twist, redefine and destroy our nation, culture, language and rights.

    I also like to have fun so kiss my ass!
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