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Weird trend on the 30 year interest rate...
HoustonHusky
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A friend was showing it to me at work today...I'm too lazy to pull up the Reuters Chart of it but you can see it in this:
Basically, if you zoom in from 1987 (the crash then) to now on the 30-year rate it has followed an amazingly tight straight channel downward...and its getting to the point where that channel can't go down much further. You can add some comments about it being the point at which the Fed started trying to fix everything, but its kinda a frightening chart whatever your views on the Fed are...and moreso when you realize it has to break out of that channel sometime soon.
Basically, if you zoom in from 1987 (the crash then) to now on the 30-year rate it has followed an amazingly tight straight channel downward...and its getting to the point where that channel can't go down much further. You can add some comments about it being the point at which the Fed started trying to fix everything, but its kinda a frightening chart whatever your views on the Fed are...and moreso when you realize it has to break out of that channel sometime soon.
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I won't believe it until it's on Wikipedia
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Negative rates and the end of capitalism as we know it.
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Crazy!
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Why?
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If you are getting into ridiculous interest rate theories. At least reference zero hedge.
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I didn't know a plot of data of 30 year interest rates with channel lines (I'm guessing you don't know what channel lines are...) constitutes a "theory" now...your "Intelligence" continues to shine bright around here.2001400ex said:If you are getting into ridiculous interest rate theories. At least reference zero hedge.
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As a dumb red, I don't know what any of this means. Can someone explain how these rates going down for so long can fuck us? as a cuntry? TIA
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Maybe a PM to @IrishDawg22 is in order? I here he has this place dialed in.HoustonHusky said:
I didn't know a plot of data of 30 year interest rates with channel lines (I'm guessing you don't know what channel lines are...) constitutes a "theory" now...your "Intelligence" continues to shine bright around here.2001400ex said:If you are getting into ridiculous interest rate theories. At least reference zero hedge.
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deflation.TheGlove said:Why?
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Not when they are made in RiversideTheGlove said: -
Is Apple opening a manufacturing facility in Riverside?RaceBannon said:
Not when they are made in RiversideTheGlove said: -
PM Ballbag for further detailsTheGlove said:
Is Apple opening a manufacturing facility in Riverside?RaceBannon said:
Not when they are made in RiversideTheGlove said: -
How much Apple Cash is stored offshore just ichin' for a #BigFatCorporateTaxBreak to come back on shore?
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RaceBannon said:
PM Ballbag for further detailsTheGlove said:
Is Apple opening a manufacturing facility in Riverside?RaceBannon said:
Not when they are made in RiversideTheGlove said:
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I'm going to keep enjoying the whoosh for a while longerTheGlove said:RaceBannon said:
PM Ballbag for further detailsTheGlove said:
Is Apple opening a manufacturing facility in Riverside?RaceBannon said:
Not when they are made in RiversideTheGlove said: -
Is nobody going to actually explain why I should care about that graph? @TheChart
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You're just mad there is no carpet for you to lay in apple stores.RaceBannon said:
PM Ballbag for further detailsTheGlove said:
Is Apple opening a manufacturing facility in Riverside?RaceBannon said:
Not when they are made in RiversideTheGlove said:
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zero interest rates reduce income margins to banks, falling revenues.
Weakening economy, falling revenues, rising loan losses, falling collateral value of remaining loans on books, rising assets owned... Those new asset pools fall in value, lending standards forced to tighten, further pressure, eventually... Poof, negative equity, deteriorating loan portfolio, margin squeeze, bank failure.
Lending grinds to a halt.... Just like last time... Before the VooDoo rescue that 'solved' everything. -
I enjoy a good whoosh, but for the love of Allah, couldn't careless about a swordfight between you and ballbag.RaceBannon said:
I'm going to keep enjoying the whoosh for a while longerTheGlove said:RaceBannon said:
PM Ballbag for further detailsTheGlove said:
Is Apple opening a manufacturing facility in Riverside?RaceBannon said:
Not when they are made in RiversideTheGlove said: -
I used to do hard surfaces tooBallSacked said:
You're just mad there is no carpet for you to lay in apple stores.RaceBannon said:
PM Ballbag for further detailsTheGlove said:
Is Apple opening a manufacturing facility in Riverside?RaceBannon said:
Not when they are made in RiversideTheGlove said: -
It's soft?RaceBannon said:
I used to do hard surfaces tooBallSacked said:
You're just mad there is no carpet for you to lay in apple stores.RaceBannon said:
PM Ballbag for further detailsTheGlove said:
Is Apple opening a manufacturing facility in Riverside?RaceBannon said:
Not when they are made in RiversideTheGlove said: -
Investment advice I can get behind. You forgot cocaine, but that's a small oversight on an otherwise outstanding plan.TheChart said:
