Q for Islam apologists

dflea · June 2016

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
TF?

Fuck off. Fine I'm wrong there.

There?

Sledog · June 2016

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
Source? You're a fucking idiot as usual. I have lived among these folk in 4 different cuntries. If you call being misogynist to the point of beating and maiming, even killing a woman if she gazes on an infidel, throwing homos off of buildings, and having no intrinsic value for human life peaceful, you're the biggest dumbfuck that ever fucked.

It is not a religion of peace. At all. It is a religion of hate. Go ahead and marginalize the fringe Christians that mainstream Christianity disowns. Cool. I do too.

Imagine a Christian radical group in a Moslem Cuntry doing what these fucks are doing in ours. How would that be dealt with? With open border, cries for tolerance, and disarming the population? They're bullies no matter what you think.

If this country was a bully, we'd own Canada, Mexico, and the world except for China.

Fuck off and grow the fuck up.

Funny Hondo supports people who would throw him off the tallest building available.

Sledog · June 2016

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.

I'll chip 20 bucks to buy Hondo a ticket to the fine border area of Syria and Iraq. Anyone else?

2001400ex · June 2016

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
I'll chip 20 bucks to buy Hondo a ticket to the fine border area of Syria and Iraq. Anyone else?

Because those Muslims are representative of an Muslims? Be a black dude in the south 100 years ago and tell me the white dudes are representative of Christians.

2001400ex · June 2016

Sledog said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
Source? You're a fucking idiot as usual. I have lived among these folk in 4 different cuntries. If you call being misogynist to the point of beating and maiming, even killing a woman if she gazes on an infidel, throwing homos off of buildings, and having no intrinsic value for human life peaceful, you're the biggest dumbfuck that ever fucked.

It is not a religion of peace. At all. It is a religion of hate. Go ahead and marginalize the fringe Christians that mainstream Christianity disowns. Cool. I do too.

Imagine a Christian radical group in a Moslem Cuntry doing what these fucks are doing in ours. How would that be dealt with? With open border, cries for tolerance, and disarming the population? They're bullies no matter what you think.

If this country was a bully, we'd own Canada, Mexico, and the world except for China.

Fuck off and grow the fuck up.

Funny Hondo supports people who would throw him off the tallest building available.

I don't support terrorists. Dumb fuck.

Peterman · June 2016

Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far

RaceBannon · June 2016

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far

I've always respected REAL Atheists.

Peterman · June 2016

RaceBannon said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
I've always respected REAL Atheists.

Everyone is born an atheist

RaceBannon · June 2016

Peterman said:

RaceBannon said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
I've always respected REAL Atheists.
Everyone is born an atheist

And?

TierbsHsotBoobs · June 2016

RaceBannon said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
I've always respected REAL Atheists.

#BringBackOurHarv

SweatpantsGeneral · June 2016

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far

You're a dumb cunt.

Empirically speaking.... Equating those is like equating USA, Ukraine, and China.

Lots of Jews running into gay bars and shooting them up.

Lots of Americans hijacking planes and crashing them into Dubai.

Fuck. Off.

Peterman · June 2016

RaceBannon said:

Peterman said:

RaceBannon said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
I've always respected REAL Atheists.
Everyone is born an atheist
And?

Just saying it's not "edgy" to be one, which a lot of people like to claim these days... you are one until someone teaches you to believe something

Peterman · June 2016

koopdog said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
You're a dumb cunt.

Empirically speaking.... Equating those is like equating USA, Ukraine, and China.

Lots of Jews running into gay bars and shooting them up.

Lots of Americans hijacking planes and crashing them into Dubai.

Fuck. Off.

So saying Muslims are the worst is equating them? U go into the military before highschool instead of after?

SweatpantsGeneral · June 2016

Peterman said:

koopdog said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
You're a dumb cunt.

Empirically speaking.... Equating those is like equating USA, Ukraine, and China.

Lots of Jews running into gay bars and shooting them up.

Lots of Americans hijacking planes and crashing them into Dubai.

Fuck. Off.
So saying Muslims are the worst is equating them? U go into the military before highschool instead of after?

I'm not sure what your question is trying to get at. I assumed your last sentence was snarky. My apologies if I misunderstood.

I went into the military after a lot of college. @RaceBannon and his generation paid for it. Yes, the Muslims (sic) are worse by far. And it's not even close.

I lived among them for a lot of years. What's your source?

They are stone age in their beliefs, customs, and actions. Most other religions, including Christianity, have progressed.

You can find pockets of crap in Christianity, Judaism....but you can find that anywhere.

Islam is the the soul world religion that believes that women are not worthy of heaven and therefore can be beaten and killed, that wiping your ass with a handful of sand is okay, and if you don't believe in what they believe you die.

Far right "Christianity" is a joke; there's this thing called the New Testament. Most get that. My ex that I met in Bosnia is a Jew. They're amazing people who want nothing more than peace. But they are not afforded that luxury.... ever. Always on the brink of death. They're hard. And I admire them. But they never, ever project. They just want to be left alone.

You, however, are probably really cool, and sit on platitude island without anything to back it up. That must be nice.

SweatpantsGeneral · June 2016

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
I'll chip 20 bucks to buy Hondo a ticket to the fine border area of Syria and Iraq. Anyone else?
Because those Muslims are representative of an Muslims? Be a black dude in the south 100 years ago and tell me the white dudes are representative of Christians.

I'll give you a chance to take this poast back because I care about you, Son.

Peterman · June 2016

I agree with nearly everything you just said, Islam is clearly the worst thing going these days and I'm not trying to equate them but just because these backwards fucks are the worst doesn't mean other religions aren't shit as well....that's all I'm sayin

SweatpantsGeneral · June 2016

Peterman said:
I agree with nearly everything you just said, Islam is clearly the worst thing going these days and I'm not trying to equate them but just because these backwards fucks are the worst doesn't mean other religions aren't shit as well....that's all I'm sayin

I'm a snap case. My bad.

But I don't equate the other religions with Islam. And I'm tired of motherfuckers making excuses for it.

I'm cool with you not liking religion. I do grade things. I'm not a bible thumper. But I know a lot of bible thumpers and although they're annoying a bit, they're not running up on my porch with a suicide vest.

Just sayin' brother.

2001400ex · June 2016

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
I'll chip 20 bucks to buy Hondo a ticket to the fine border area of Syria and Iraq. Anyone else?
Because those Muslims are representative of an Muslims? Be a black dude in the south 100 years ago and tell me the white dudes are representative of Christians.
I'll give you a chance to take this poast back because I care about you, Son.

Do you forget the KKK? I should take back our country's history now?

Peterman · June 2016

koopdog said:

Peterman said:
I agree with nearly everything you just said, Islam is clearly the worst thing going these days and I'm not trying to equate them but just because these backwards fucks are the worst doesn't mean other religions aren't shit as well....that's all I'm sayin
I'm a snap case. My bad.

But I don't equate the other religions with Islam. And I'm tired of motherfuckers making excuses for it.

I'm cool with you not liking religion. I do grade things. I'm not a bible thumper. But I know a lot of bible thumpers and although they're annoying a bit, they're not running up on my porch with a suicide vest.

Just sayin' brother.

Touche

SweatpantsGeneral · June 2016

2001400ex said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
I'll chip 20 bucks to buy Hondo a ticket to the fine border area of Syria and Iraq. Anyone else?
Because those Muslims are representative of an Muslims? Be a black dude in the south 100 years ago and tell me the white dudes are representative of Christians.
I'll give you a chance to take this poast back because I care about you, Son.
Do you forget the KKK? I should take back our country's history now?

Seriously? This country has a history of progression. Slavery was outlawed with the 14th amendment. Abolitionists are the heroes. There was a war fought over this (okay, it was economics, but still)

And you can find a marginalized piece of shit to refute anything.

Fact: 99.9999998888888888888888888888888764 percent of Christians and Americans are against the issue you're talking about.

Yet, Islam preaches beating women, misogyny, and hate. And progressives tell us to be kind to these fucks.

Fuck. For some reason I like you, but you make this easy as shit.

Southerndawg · June 2016

@koopdog owns this thread.

Poor Hondo appears on the verge of developing permanently flaring and bleeding hemorrhoids.

ThomasFremont · June 2016

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
I'll chip 20 bucks to buy Hondo a ticket to the fine border area of Syria and Iraq. Anyone else?
Because those Muslims are representative of an Muslims? Be a black dude in the south 100 years ago and tell me the white dudes are representative of Christians.
I'll give you a chance to take this poast back because I care about you, Son.
Do you forget the KKK? I should take back our country's history now?
Seriously? This country has a history of progression. Slavery was outlawed with the 14th amendment. Abolitionists are the heroes. There was a war fought over this (okay, it was economics, but still)

And you can find a marginalized piece of shit to refute anything.

Fact: 99.9999998888888888888888888888888764 percent of Christians and Americans are against the issue you're talking about.

Yet, Islam preaches beating women, misogyny, and hate. And progressives tell us to be kind to these fucks.

Fuck. For some reason I like you, but you make this easy as shit.

disagree

SweatpantsGeneral · June 2016

ThomasFremont said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
I'll chip 20 bucks to buy Hondo a ticket to the fine border area of Syria and Iraq. Anyone else?
Because those Muslims are representative of an Muslims? Be a black dude in the south 100 years ago and tell me the white dudes are representative of Christians.
I'll give you a chance to take this poast back because I care about you, Son.
Do you forget the KKK? I should take back our country's history now?
Seriously? This country has a history of progression. Slavery was outlawed with the 14th amendment. Abolitionists are the heroes. There was a war fought over this (okay, it was economics, but still)

And you can find a marginalized piece of shit to refute anything.

Fact: 99.9999998888888888888888888888888764 percent of Christians and Americans are against the issue you're talking about.

Yet, Islam preaches beating women, misogyny, and hate. And progressives tell us to be kind to these fucks.

Fuck. For some reason I like you, but you make this easy as shit.
disagree

I would like to be wrong here, Sir.

Southerndawg · June 2016

koopdog said:

ThomasFremont said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
I'll chip 20 bucks to buy Hondo a ticket to the fine border area of Syria and Iraq. Anyone else?
Because those Muslims are representative of an Muslims? Be a black dude in the south 100 years ago and tell me the white dudes are representative of Christians.
I'll give you a chance to take this poast back because I care about you, Son.
Do you forget the KKK? I should take back our country's history now?
Seriously? This country has a history of progression. Slavery was outlawed with the 14th amendment. Abolitionists are the heroes. There was a war fought over this (okay, it was economics, but still)

And you can find a marginalized piece of shit to refute anything.

Fact: 99.9999998888888888888888888888888764 percent of Christians and Americans are against the issue you're talking about.

Yet, Islam preaches beating women, misogyny, and hate. And progressives tell us to be kind to these fucks.

Fuck. For some reason I like you, but you make this easy as shit.
disagree
I would like to be wrong here, Sir.

You're not

ThomasFremont · June 2016

koopdog said:

ThomasFremont said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
I'll chip 20 bucks to buy Hondo a ticket to the fine border area of Syria and Iraq. Anyone else?
Because those Muslims are representative of an Muslims? Be a black dude in the south 100 years ago and tell me the white dudes are representative of Christians.
I'll give you a chance to take this poast back because I care about you, Son.
Do you forget the KKK? I should take back our country's history now?
Seriously? This country has a history of progression. Slavery was outlawed with the 14th amendment. Abolitionists are the heroes. There was a war fought over this (okay, it was economics, but still)

And you can find a marginalized piece of shit to refute anything.

Fact: 99.9999998888888888888888888888888764 percent of Christians and Americans are against the issue you're talking about.

Yet, Islam preaches beating women, misogyny, and hate. And progressives tell us to be kind to these fucks.

Fuck. For some reason I like you, but you make this easy as shit.
disagree
I would like to be wrong here, Sir.

Bombard them from orbit.

There, you're wrong...sir.

TierbsHsotBoobs · June 2016

koopdog said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
You're a dumb cunt.

Empirically speaking.... Equating those is like equating USA, Ukraine, and China.

Lots of Jews running into gay bars and shooting them up.

Lots of Americans hijacking planes and crashing them into Dubai.

Fuck. Off.

Huh?

SweatpantsGeneral · June 2016

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

koopdog said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
You're a dumb cunt.

Empirically speaking.... Equating those is like equating USA, Ukraine, and China.

Lots of Jews running into gay bars and shooting them up.

Lots of Americans hijacking planes and crashing them into Dubai.

Fuck. Off.
Huh?

Nice outlier trying to prove the poont as always.

GrundleStiltzkin · June 2016

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

koopdog said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
You're a dumb cunt.

Empirically speaking.... Equating those is like equating USA, Ukraine, and China.

Lots of Jews running into gay bars and shooting them up.

Lots of Americans hijacking planes and crashing them into Dubai.

Fuck. Off.
Huh?

Is that Kobar, Sudan, Lebanon, or Jakarta?

GrundleStiltzkin · June 2016

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

koopdog said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleJ said:

ThomasFremont said:

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus 20:13 NIV

That's the Bible.... Your eyes are as good as mine.

Does the Old Testament still apply? Thought there was a new covenant based on forgiveness and mercy for sins? Is the book of Leviticus even talking about literal death or is it speaking in a figurative sense of spiritual death as the bible often does?

Love thy neighbor and let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Hmm. Seems to be at odds with Leviticus. Wonder why?

"The wages of sin are death" wasn't talking about the act of killing. It's talking about the fact that your death on earth will be final and you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
So you're saying the first few chapters of your book are just filler?
No. The purpose of the Old Testament is to illustrate the old covenant held by the Hebrews, which involved animal sacrifice to atone for sins. It contains sections where the New Covenant is hinted at through divine prophecy. It also serves to illustrate Jewish history and culture. You need all that to truly understand the purpose/background behind the New Covenant, which was to extend salvation beyond the Jews to the Gentiles.

Members of the Jewish faith do not recognize Jesus or the new covenant. They follow the Torah, which is contained in the first five books IIRC.
Just like you truly need to understand the Quran. Rather then trusting your biased news source.
Prove me wrong with your deep understanding of Islamic law and theology!
That's the point. You know nothing about the Quran yet are saying it's the Qurans fault for the violence. But your own Bible has similar violent passages that can be misconstrued.
One doesn't have to understand the Quran to understand that the people that take their Islam seriously seem to agree with Js interpretation.
Yet there more peaceful Muslims then there are total Christians in this world.
Source? You're a fucking idiot as usual. I have lived among these folk in 4 different cuntries. If you call being misogynist to the point of beating and maiming, even killing a woman if she gazes on an infidel, throwing homos off of buildings, and having no intrinsic value for human life peaceful, you're the biggest dumbfuck that ever fucked.

It is not a religion of peace. At all. It is a religion of hate. Go ahead and marginalize the fringe Christians that mainstream Christianity disowns. Cool. I do too.

Imagine a Christian radical group in a Moslem Cuntry doing what these fucks are doing in ours. How would that be dealt with? With open border, cries for tolerance, and disarming the population? They're bullies no matter what you think.

If this country was a bully, we'd own Canada, Mexico, and the world except for China.

Fuck off and grow the fuck up.

Funny Hondo supports people who would throw him off the tallest building available.
I don't support terrorists. Dumb fuck.

Certainly. However, the gay throwers call themselves orthodox statesmen.

TierbsHsotBoobs · June 2016

koopdog said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

koopdog said:

Peterman said:
Muslims are faggots
Christians are faggots
Jews are faggots

Anyone who even kinda maybe believes in any of that fairytale shit is a dumbfuck

....but yeah Muslims are the worst by far
You're a dumb cunt.

Empirically speaking.... Equating those is like equating USA, Ukraine, and China.

Lots of Jews running into gay bars and shooting them up.

Lots of Americans hijacking planes and crashing them into Dubai.

Fuck. Off.
Huh?

Nice outlier trying to prove the poont as always.

Do you even know who I am?

Q for Islam apologists

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