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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,499 Standard Supporter

    Metrics are fine to an extent, but when you are arguing that 7-6 Arkansas is better than 12-1 FSU, you know you are too deep into te stat geek world.

    That FSU team was overrated all year though in the polls and by the "eye test" and that played out in the playoffs. That is a feather in the cap of the metrics IMO not a black mark.
    Or they coasted by with their talent and played down to their competition. They only turned it on when needed. We saw a similar situation last year at Ohio State.

    They were blown out in the 2nd half by Oregon. Arkansas lost 6 games. Don't be that guy.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Metrics are fine to an extent, but when you are arguing that 7-6 Arkansas is better than 12-1 FSU, you know you are too deep into te stat geek world.

    That FSU team was overrated all year though in the polls and by the "eye test" and that played out in the playoffs. That is a feather in the cap of the metrics IMO not a black mark.
    Not living up to your namesake.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Metrics are fine to an extent, but when you are arguing that 7-6 Arkansas is better than 12-1 FSU, you know you are too deep into te stat geek world.

    That FSU team was overrated all year though in the polls and by the "eye test" and that played out in the playoffs. That is a feather in the cap of the metrics IMO not a black mark.
    Or they coasted by with their talent and played down to their competition. They only turned it on when needed. We saw a similar situation last year at Ohio State.

    They were blown out in the 2nd half by Oregon. Arkansas lost 6 games. Don't be that guy.
    Coasted by on talent by winning 7 games by 6 or fewer points? Not to mention giving up 41 to NC State and 31 to Louisville.

    C'mon now old school 55. You've seen enough football to know that a plundering means a lot more than eeking out a victory.

    That FSU team was not good. The Oregon plundering was not surprising.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Metrics are fine to an extent, but when you are arguing that 7-6 Arkansas is better than 12-1 FSU, you know you are too deep into te stat geek world.

    That FSU team was overrated all year though in the polls and by the "eye test" and that played out in the playoffs. That is a feather in the cap of the metrics IMO not a black mark.
    Not living up to your namesake.
    Which one?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,797 Founders Club
    Arkansas is the UW of the SEC

    #offseasonnatty #Metricchamp
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Metrics are fine to an extent, but when you are arguing that 7-6 Arkansas is better than 12-1 FSU, you know you are too deep into te stat geek world.

    That FSU team was overrated all year though in the polls and by the "eye test" and that played out in the playoffs. That is a feather in the cap of the metrics IMO not a black mark.
    Or they coasted by with their talent and played down to their competition. They only turned it on when needed. We saw a similar situation last year at Ohio State.

    They were blown out in the 2nd half by Oregon. Arkansas lost 6 games. Don't be that guy.
    Coasted by on talent by winning 7 games by 6 or fewer points? Not to mention giving up 41 to NC State and 31 to Louisville.

    C'mon now old school 55. You've seen enough football to know that a plundering means a lot more than eeking out a victory.

    That FSU team was not good. The Oregon plundering was not surprising.
    One team won 12 games, the other won 7. Would any coach in college football trade FSU's roster for Arkansas?

    FSU had tons of NFL players on the roster and the returning Heisman Trophy winner. So they had more talent and more wins. By what FS metric was Arkansas better? FSU won 7 games by 6 or fewer points? Once again, Arkansas won 7 all season.

    FSU beat Clemson with their back up QB. They beat Georgia Tech who plungered a Mississippi State team that finished much higher than Arkansas in the same fucking conference.

    Maybe FSU wasn't great. That is not really the point. They didn't play to their potential, but any metric that ranks a 7 win team over a 12 win team is seriously flawed and should not be used religiously as the end all by all, which was often the case with Chest.
    You keep talking about Arkansas but I never said anything about Arkansas.

    FSU sucked and was severely overrated when sorting by W/L and was more accurately rated by the metrics that was my only point and I don't give a fuck about Arkansas or your grandma's red suspenders.

    HTH.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,358 Founders Club

    Metrics are fine to an extent, but when you are arguing that 7-6 Arkansas is better than 12-1 FSU, you know you are too deep into te stat geek world.

    That FSU team was overrated all year though in the polls and by the "eye test" and that played out in the playoffs. That is a feather in the cap of the metrics IMO not a black mark.
    Or they coasted by with their talent and played down to their competition. They only turned it on when needed. We saw a similar situation last year at Ohio State.

    They were blown out in the 2nd half by Oregon. Arkansas lost 6 games. Don't be that guy.
    Coasted by on talent by winning 7 games by 6 or fewer points? Not to mention giving up 41 to NC State and 31 to Louisville.

    C'mon now old school 55. You've seen enough football to know that a plundering means a lot more than eeking out a victory.

    That FSU team was not good. The Oregon plundering was not surprising.
    One team won 12 games, the other won 7. Would any coach in college football trade FSU's roster for Arkansas?

    FSU had tons of NFL players on the roster and the returning Heisman Trophy winner. So they had more talent and more wins. By what FS metric was Arkansas better? FSU won 7 games by 6 or fewer points? Once again, Arkansas won 7 all season.

    FSU beat Clemson with their back up QB. They beat Georgia Tech who plungered a Mississippi State team that finished much higher than Arkansas in the same fucking conference.

    Maybe FSU wasn't great. That is not really the point. They didn't play to their potential, but any metric that ranks a 7 win team over a 12 win team is seriously flawed and should not be used religiously as the end all by all, which was often the case with Chest.
    Couldn't agree more.

    By the way, 2002 Ohio State eked out more than a few wins by small margins but went on to beat a fantastic Miami team in the Fiesta Bowl to win a MNC. And 37 of the 43 starters on that team were eventually drafted into the NFL. Bottom line, margin of victory can be vastly misleading.