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Trump actually is a Democrat
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Unless he issalemcoog said:
You can vote however you want for him.pawz said:dnc said:
Some of us(?) give a fuckpawz said:Pretty sure we all know this.
And don't give a fuck.
I like to think of a vote for Trump as high variance endeavor. Its either going to end up really fucking good, or really fucking bad.
Personally, my vote for him is a vote for the entire system burning to the ground, so we can get on w/ a fresh start. Time to stock-pile canned goods and ammo. (same same?)
That's what I like to think.
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Sounds like a sound decision making process.Sledog said:
I'll vote for anything but the B.O.B. Just hope I'm getting the Trump he claims to be now and not the one from the past.sarktastic said:So then vote Hiliary... fag
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More sound than your vote for Hillarysalemcoog said:
Sounds like a sound decision making process.Sledog said:
I'll vote for anything but the B.O.B. Just hope I'm getting the Trump he claims to be now and not the one from the past.sarktastic said:So then vote Hiliary... fag
Oh that's right - no one is actually going to vote for Hillary
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Capital gains being taxed at a lower rate is class warfare, quite simply.
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That won't stifle new investment at all........greenblood said:
I hope he does2001400ex said:
You don't think Trump will raise the capital gains tax rate?greenblood said:
If you don't understand the difference on how income is made by the rich vs the middle class then economics failed you.Sledog said:
Odd I thought everyone pays the same capitol gains tax. I must have missed the "rich" box on the tax return.greenblood said:
Middle class pays the tax increases not the rich. The rich use capital gains taxes which is significantly lower than what Americans middle class pays. But I'm sure you already knew that.2001400ex said:
Oh. So Obama raises taxes and he's a communist. Trump raises taxes and he's your hero.pawz said:Pretty sure we all know this.
And don't give a fuck.
Got it. Glad the only qualification he needs is an R next to his name.
Trump was a demorat his whole life. He's flip flopped on more than just his party. Check his gun control stance.
Bullets and beans. bullets and beans.
Because of capital gains, middle America actually pays a higher tax rate than the one percenters. My big problem with tax increases, is that they always seem to hurt the $50k-$200k earners more than the 200k+ earners. I would be in favor of getting rid of capital gains, and have everything taxed as ordinary income. You can then slightly decrease ordinary income tax rates, because they would be made up for by capital gains being replaced by ordinary income. -
Income is income simple factSledog said:
That won't stifle new investment at all........greenblood said:
I hope he does2001400ex said:
You don't think Trump will raise the capital gains tax rate?greenblood said:
If you don't understand the difference on how income is made by the rich vs the middle class then economics failed you.Sledog said:
Odd I thought everyone pays the same capitol gains tax. I must have missed the "rich" box on the tax return.greenblood said:
Middle class pays the tax increases not the rich. The rich use capital gains taxes which is significantly lower than what Americans middle class pays. But I'm sure you already knew that.2001400ex said:
Oh. So Obama raises taxes and he's a communist. Trump raises taxes and he's your hero.pawz said:Pretty sure we all know this.
And don't give a fuck.
Got it. Glad the only qualification he needs is an R next to his name.
Trump was a demorat his whole life. He's flip flopped on more than just his party. Check his gun control stance.
Bullets and beans. bullets and beans.
Because of capital gains, middle America actually pays a higher tax rate than the one percenters. My big problem with tax increases, is that they always seem to hurt the $50k-$200k earners more than the 200k+ earners. I would be in favor of getting rid of capital gains, and have everything taxed as ordinary income. You can then slightly decrease ordinary income tax rates, because they would be made up for by capital gains being replaced by ordinary income. -
You clearly have never met anyone who has invested money.Sledog said:
That won't stifle new investment at all........greenblood said:
I hope he does2001400ex said:
You don't think Trump will raise the capital gains tax rate?greenblood said:
If you don't understand the difference on how income is made by the rich vs the middle class then economics failed you.Sledog said:
Odd I thought everyone pays the same capitol gains tax. I must have missed the "rich" box on the tax return.greenblood said:
Middle class pays the tax increases not the rich. The rich use capital gains taxes which is significantly lower than what Americans middle class pays. But I'm sure you already knew that.2001400ex said:
Oh. So Obama raises taxes and he's a communist. Trump raises taxes and he's your hero.pawz said:Pretty sure we all know this.
And don't give a fuck.
Got it. Glad the only qualification he needs is an R next to his name.
Trump was a demorat his whole life. He's flip flopped on more than just his party. Check his gun control stance.
Bullets and beans. bullets and beans.
Because of capital gains, middle America actually pays a higher tax rate than the one percenters. My big problem with tax increases, is that they always seem to hurt the $50k-$200k earners more than the 200k+ earners. I would be in favor of getting rid of capital gains, and have everything taxed as ordinary income. You can then slightly decrease ordinary income tax rates, because they would be made up for by capital gains being replaced by ordinary income. -
The democrats don't raise the capital gains tax when they can.
Wonder why -
Actually Obama/Congress did raise the capital gains tax. But facts are still elusive to race.RaceBannon said:The democrats don't raise the capital gains tax when they can.
Wonder why -
2001400ex said:
Actually Obama/Congress did raise the capital gains tax. But facts are still elusive to HondoRaceBannon said:The democrats don't raise the capital gains tax when they can.
Wonder why
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama promised to increase capital gains and dividends taxes from 15 percent to 20 percent for those making more than $250,000 (for couples) or $200,000 (for individuals).
The fiscal cliff bill, passed by the House and Senate on Jan. 1, 2013, did raise taxes to 20 percent, but only for taxpayers earning $400,000 (for individuals) or $450,000 (for couples). Taxing capital gains at 20 percent returns taxation to the level under President Bill Clinton. Under Clinton, dividends were taxed as ordinary income, meaning rates as high as 39.6 percent.
Obama had lost the House by then and did nothing when he and the democrats had control
But still
Democrats say they want to raise it for their stupid voters then don't because it's a bad idea -
What is with the Bernie/Hillary loving commie Hondo's in this thread? You're seriously going to allow yourselves to get sucked into a class warfare scam, and proudly waive the capital gains tax flag?
Capital gains represent reward for risk taken with one's capital. That should be encouraged, not discouraged, and you're Hondo after drinking bleach FS if you think that raising capital gains tax rates won't effect investment. It does, big time, which is why Bill Clinton himself rolled back capital gains tax rates. The US economy needs to grow, and it needs to do it rapidly. Labor participation rates are at lows not seen in generations and debt is spiraling out of control. Capital investment is needed to grow the economy out of this clusterfuck, it needs to be encouraged, not discouraged in a move that panders to a base that pays no federal income taxes of any kind. -
Yes, business owners have shown time and again, that when they are given tax cuts, they use it to hire employees.Southerndawg said:What is with the Bernie/Hillary loving commie Hondo's in this thread? You're seriously going to allow yourselves to get sucked into a class warfare scam, and proudly waive the capital gains tax flag?
Capital gains represent reward for risk taken with one's capital. That should be encouraged, not discouraged, and you're Hondo after drinking bleach FS if you think that raising capital gains tax rates won't effect investment. It does, big time, which is why Bill Clinton himself rolled back capital gains tax rates. The US economy needs to grow, and it needs to do it rapidly. Labor participation rates are at lows not seen in generations and debt is spiraling out of control. Capital investment is needed to grow the economy out of this clusterfuck, it needs to be encouraged, not discouraged in a move that panders to a base that pays no federal income taxes of any kind.
Oh wait.
Again, no business owner says "I'm going to get taxed at 30% instead of 20% so I'm not going to make this investment". -
I'm right you're wrong.2001400ex said:
Why don't you ask the Clinton campaign for a raise. You seem stressed out
Democrats talk class warfare but don't act on it. It's for their stupid voters
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The best part is you even tried to argue you were right. And are still wrong. Nice work.RaceBannon said:
I'm right you're wrong.2001400ex said:
Why don't you ask the Clinton campaign for a raise. You seem stressed out
Democrats talk class warfare but don't act on it. It's for their stupid voters
Like you -
I know you're being accurate but Trump is a class warfare fighter now too.RaceBannon said:
I'm right you're wrong.2001400ex said:
Why don't you ask the Clinton campaign for a raise. You seem stressed out
Democrats talk class warfare but don't act on it. It's for their stupid voters
Like you -
You're lucky Hilary is winning or else this argument wouldn't sail. What is the Democratic Party but a transitory construct; the real left wants higher cap gains and you know it. Funny that Trump is calling for higher taxes on the rich, isn't it?RaceBannon said:
I'm right you're wrong.2001400ex said:
Why don't you ask the Clinton campaign for a raise. You seem stressed out
Democrats talk class warfare but don't act on it. It's for their stupid voters
Like you -
I guess I was lucky Obama won twice too.doogsinparadise said:
You're lucky Hilary is winning or else this argument wouldn't sail. What is the Democratic Party but a transitory construct; the real left wants higher cap gains and you know it. Funny that Trump is calling for higher taxes on the rich, isn't it?RaceBannon said:
I'm right you're wrong.2001400ex said:
Why don't you ask the Clinton campaign for a raise. You seem stressed out
Democrats talk class warfare but don't act on it. It's for their stupid voters
Like you
Trump's higher taxes on the rich are lower than they are now.
Trump is also going to cleanup on democrat votes -
Hillary isn't winning.
