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2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
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Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick. -
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt. -
Since when did the nomination process have a bearing on the general election? It's awfully warm for November.greenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt.
Reality is, both Hillary and Trump are involved in litigation/investigation. Both have the highest negatives ever, with both over 50%. Both are fucktarded. Both are habitual liars. And that's what the voters of each party chose to represent them in the general election. -
Ty is better than Hackett and Toledo potd.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
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But trump has the advantage of only having to face direct attacks from Clinton, while Clinton has to take it from both trump and sanders. The biggest problem about that, is how they'll attack different areas simultaneously.2001400ex said:
Since when did the nomination process have a bearing on the general election? It's awfully warm for November.greenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt.
Reality is, both Hillary and Trump are involved in litigation/investigation. Both have the highest negatives ever, with both over 50%. Both are fucktarded. Both are habitual liars. And that's what the voters of each party chose to represent them in the general election. -
Voters have such a short attention span. Nothing Sanders says now will have a bearing on November.greenblood said:
But trump has the advantage of only having to face direct attacks from Clinton, while Clinton has to take it from both trump and sanders. The biggest problem about that, is how they'll attack different areas simultaneously.2001400ex said:
Since when did the nomination process have a bearing on the general election? It's awfully warm for November.greenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt.
Reality is, both Hillary and Trump are involved in litigation/investigation. Both have the highest negatives ever, with both over 50%. Both are fucktarded. Both are habitual liars. And that's what the voters of each party chose to represent them in the general election.
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Ty is the President this year.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
Hope this helps -
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I specifically asked for no racist crappawz said:
Ty is the President this year.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
Hope this helps -
Trump will skullfuck Killary
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But it does delay Hillary's attacks on Trump, or at least hinders them. But after thinking about it, that might be a bad thing for Trump. His numbers tend to rise when he's attacked.2001400ex said:
Voters have such a short attention span. Nothing Sanders says now will have a bearing on November.greenblood said:
But trump has the advantage of only having to face direct attacks from Clinton, while Clinton has to take it from both trump and sanders. The biggest problem about that, is how they'll attack different areas simultaneously.2001400ex said:
Since when did the nomination process have a bearing on the general election? It's awfully warm for November.greenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt.
Reality is, both Hillary and Trump are involved in litigation/investigation. Both have the highest negatives ever, with both over 50%. Both are fucktarded. Both are habitual liars. And that's what the voters of each party chose to represent them in the general election.
HTH -
I've learned that any Season that USC or UW doesn't win the Rose Bowl means the Pac 12 sucked that year. It's just what I've learned, so don't twist.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
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Hillary will keep showing and repeating the stupid shit Trump says. Yes it appeals to 50% of the conservatives and a few Democrats. But it pisses off the rest of the country.greenblood said:
But it does delay Hillary's attacks on Trump, or at least hinders them. But after thinking about it, that might be a bad thing for Trump. His numbers tend to rise when he's attacked.2001400ex said:
Voters have such a short attention span. Nothing Sanders says now will have a bearing on November.greenblood said:
But trump has the advantage of only having to face direct attacks from Clinton, while Clinton has to take it from both trump and sanders. The biggest problem about that, is how they'll attack different areas simultaneously.2001400ex said:
Since when did the nomination process have a bearing on the general election? It's awfully warm for November.greenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt.
Reality is, both Hillary and Trump are involved in litigation/investigation. Both have the highest negatives ever, with both over 50%. Both are fucktarded. Both are habitual liars. And that's what the voters of each party chose to represent them in the general election.
HTH
Reality is, this will be the highest crossover election in recent times. And independents will sit it as they don't want to vote for a blowhard liar or a female liar. -
2001400ex said:
Hillary will keep showing and repeating the stupid shit Trump says. Yes it appeals to 50% of the conservatives and a few Democrats. But it pisses off the rest of the country.greenblood said:
But it does delay Hillary's attacks on Trump, or at least hinders them. But after thinking about it, that might be a bad thing for Trump. His numbers tend to rise when he's attacked.2001400ex said:
Voters have such a short attention span. Nothing Sanders says now will have a bearing on November.greenblood said:
But trump has the advantage of only having to face direct attacks from Clinton, while Clinton has to take it from both trump and sanders. The biggest problem about that, is how they'll attack different areas simultaneously.2001400ex said:
Since when did the nomination process have a bearing on the general election? It's awfully warm for November.greenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt.
Reality is, both Hillary and Trump are involved in litigation/investigation. Both have the highest negatives ever, with both over 50%. Both are fucktarded. Both are habitual liars. And that's what the voters of each party chose to represent them in the general election.
HTH
Reality is, this will be the highest crossover election in recent times. And independents will sit it as they don't want to vote for a blowhard liar or a female liar.
You're wrong. Case closed. Kill yourself. -
Great analysis as always.PostGameOrangeSlices said:2001400ex said:
Hillary will keep showing and repeating the stupid shit Trump says. Yes it appeals to 50% of the conservatives and a few Democrats. But it pisses off the rest of the country.greenblood said:
But it does delay Hillary's attacks on Trump, or at least hinders them. But after thinking about it, that might be a bad thing for Trump. His numbers tend to rise when he's attacked.2001400ex said:
Voters have such a short attention span. Nothing Sanders says now will have a bearing on November.greenblood said:
But trump has the advantage of only having to face direct attacks from Clinton, while Clinton has to take it from both trump and sanders. The biggest problem about that, is how they'll attack different areas simultaneously.2001400ex said:
Since when did the nomination process have a bearing on the general election? It's awfully warm for November.greenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt.
Reality is, both Hillary and Trump are involved in litigation/investigation. Both have the highest negatives ever, with both over 50%. Both are fucktarded. Both are habitual liars. And that's what the voters of each party chose to represent them in the general election.
HTH
Reality is, this will be the highest crossover election in recent times. And independents will sit it as they don't want to vote for a blowhard liar or a female liar.
You're wrong. Case closed. Kill yourself. -
I agree with more of this than notgreenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt. -
TL DRTequilla said:
I agree with more of this than notgreenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt. -
I like to compare civil litigation versus criminal investigations leading to indictment and claim that they are similar ... that's what I like to do2001400ex said:
Since when did the nomination process have a bearing on the general election? It's awfully warm for November.greenblood said:
Problem for Hillary is that Bernie continues to push her more and more to the left. You'll start seeing the moderate voters go to Trump. Bernie has the excitement of the young vote, but the young vote won't vote if Bernie isn't in it. Hillary is in a losing position. If Bernie had gotten out earlier I'd agree with you, but the longer Bernie lingers, the more Hillary is hurt.2001400ex said:
Yup and Stanford lost in the Rose bowl just like Trump will lose the general.TierbsHsotBoobs said:2016 GOP = 1999 Pac-10
As a side note, Ty was the coach of the year that year. Thanks for the reminder, dick.
You can joke that a crippled Hillary could beat Trump, but I don't see it. Hillary was already a weak candidate, and now getting hit from both sides is going to cause her major problems. Bernie will go after her big money, and trump will go after her character. It doesn't look good for her.
Also, momentum is key. Hillary may easily lose 75% of the remaining states, which means she'll still win the nomination, but will be severely wounded. Trump being a hunter is going to hunt.
Reality is, both Hillary and Trump are involved in litigation/investigation. Both have the highest negatives ever, with both over 50%. Both are fucktarded. Both are habitual liars. And that's what the voters of each party chose to represent them in the general election. -
I don't think that a lot of what Sanders says today will have a huge bearing on the general election from the standpoint that he's not going out of his way to attack her on anything other than the issues. Hillary's two facedness has easily navigated that by claiming that she's more similar to Sanders than not ... which nobody is buying. That's where Sanders can and will hurt her going forward.
Trump's major issues is that he's going to have to make sure that he doesn't completely alienate ethnic/gender groups and probably more accurately can mend the fences a bit to get the groups to understand that his opinions aren't due to anything other than the issues and facts facing the country. He's going to have to also make sure that he can navigate the waters on items like national security, education, and healthcare in a way that minimizes advantages that Clinton holds on him there ... which is really telling to me because there's no world that should exist where Clinton can claim that she's far superior in national security given her time as Secretary of State.
Where I can see Trump making some major inroads in the election is that he'll be able to spin Hillary around in a world of contradictions because she's the definition of a scripted shrill that speaks out of both sides of her mouth depending on who is listening. She's likely to bring up the woman card repeatedly and will probably do so at some point during a situation where Trump's attacking her on the issues and not for being a woman. Hillary's biggest enemy in the national election will be herself.
The other thing that I see being fascinating is how some non-traditional states for each party will be in play. Trump is going to be going hard after the disenchanted (white) vote in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin who are pretty pissed off at many of their traditional jobs fading away and a feeling that the Democratic Party is pandering more and more to the underserved and minority votes to win. If Trump can tap into that he has a great chance to make inroads there. On the other hand, the exact messaging from Trump that can help him will hurt him in some southern states where offense can be taken like Georgia, Florida, and the Carolinas.
I'd say that the odds would definitely favor Hillary to win ... but at the same time, I can completely see a world where Trump can spin her around enough to look so stupid that he could get a dominating victory similar to what has been evidenced during the Republican Primary Season. -
And as for Ted Cruz, my bet is that you haven't seen the last of him and his influence in this election cycle as well as it plays out for 2020/2024.
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Tequilla said:
I don't think that a lot of what Sanders says today will have a huge bearing on the general election from the standpoint that he's not going out of his way to attack her on anything other than the issues. Hillary's two facedness has easily navigated that by claiming that she's more similar to Sanders than not ... which nobody is buying. That's where Sanders can and will hurt her going forward.
Trump's major issues is that he's going to have to make sure that he doesn't completely alienate ethnic/gender groups and probably more accurately can mend the fences a bit to get the groups to understand that his opinions aren't due to anything other than the issues and facts facing the country. He's going to have to also make sure that he can navigate the waters on items like national security, education, and healthcare in a way that minimizes advantages that Clinton holds on him there ... which is really telling to me because there's no world that should exist where Clinton can claim that she's far superior in national security given her time as Secretary of State.
Where I can see Trump making some major inroads in the election is that he'll be able to spin Hillary around in a world of contradictions because she's the definition of a scripted shrill that speaks out of both sides of her mouth depending on who is listening. She's likely to bring up the woman card repeatedly and will probably do so at some point during a situation where Trump's attacking her on the issues and not for being a woman. Hillary's biggest enemy in the national election will be herself.
The other thing that I see being fascinating is how some non-traditional states for each party will be in play. Trump is going to be going hard after the disenchanted (white) vote in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin who are pretty pissed off at many of their traditional jobs fading away and a feeling that the Democratic Party is pandering more and more to the underserved and minority votes to win. If Trump can tap into that he has a great chance to make inroads there. On the other hand, the exact messaging from Trump that can help him will hurt him in some southern states where offense can be taken like Georgia, Florida, and the Carolinas.
I'd say that the odds would definitely favor Hillary to win ... but at the same time, I can completely see a world where Trump can spin her around enough to look so stupid that he could get a dominating victory similar to what has been evidenced during the Republican Primary Season.
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Disagree, with prejudice. Ted's done.Tequilla said:And as for Ted Cruz, my bet is that you haven't seen the last of him and his influence in this election cycle as well as it plays out for 2020/2024.
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Trump:
38 million spent this primary cycle
No speech writers
No pollsters
No PAC
Attacked by everyone ... including his own party
19 million spent against him in FL, where he beat the favorite son by 20 points
Finished 1st or 2nd in every primary
He isn't afraid to sling it ...
No tell me again why he's not a viable candidate?
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* rip it
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Trump won because he overturned the paradigm and treated the race like a branding exercise. Interesting to see whether this represents the first domino in a shift toward an explicitly branding-based conception of politics, within which people like Jeb and Ted have zero chance of succeeding.
