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  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,111 Founders Club

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/03/watch-terrorism-expert-school-donald-trump-his-calls-torture

    So I guess we need to be accepting and kind. That will make the terrorists stop...

    Certain people just shouldn't reproduce.

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/03/watch-terrorism-expert-school-donald-trump-his-calls-torture

    So I guess we need to be accepting and kind. That will make the terrorists stop...

    Certain people just shouldn't reproduce.

    Didn't the twat Harf tell us they just need jobs?
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    How about we bring back colonialism and say fuck the middle east. Fuck the idea of liberating countries just to see them pussy out and not even defend themselves. They want to be independent so bad, they can nut up and kick the bad guys out themselves or they can fuck off and become an American territory where none of that shit will be allowed to happen. Fuck em.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,111 Founders Club

    It's a religious war. You think, they'll just die naturally? WTF? This is built in to their radical religion. This isn't going to stop until they are neutralized.
    Does that mean we cut their balls off?
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Does that mean we cut their balls off?
    Why do that? Just have them adopt our left wing bleeding heart agenda, and they'll just fall off.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Didn't the twat Harf tell us they just need jobs?
    "We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it’s lack of opportunity for jobs, whether…"

    "We can work with countries around the world to help improve their governance. We can help them build their economies so they can have job opportunities for these people…"

    Yep

    The left want to say it's a socio-economic problem when it's a religious issue. They can have all the wealth in the world, but like Race says, they'll still hate us for our designer clothes, equally of women, equality of race, acceptance of gays and transgenders, and our support for Israel. Giving them more money, just gives them more resources to cause further damage.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,407 Founders Club

    "We’re killing a lot of them and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it’s lack of opportunity for jobs, whether…"

    "We can work with countries around the world to help improve their governance. We can help them build their economies so they can have job opportunities for these people…"

    Yep

    The left want to say it's a socio-economic problem when it's a religious issue. They can have all the wealth in the world, but like Race says, they'll still hate us for our designer clothes, equally of women, equality of race, acceptance of gays and transgenders, and our support for Israel. Giving them more money, just gives them more resources to cause further damage.
    It's both. They would care a lot less about the social issues if Israel wasn't an issue. I don't think they take the time, money, and resources to come over here on Visas, train to fly planes, and then ram them into buildings just because we're tolerant of gays.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited March 2016

    It's both. They would care a lot less about the social issues if Israel wasn't an issue. I don't think they take the time, money, and resources to come over here on Visas, train to fly planes, and then ram them into buildings just because we're tolerant of gays.
    It was "tongue and cheek" to the main point. Israel is the root of the problem. As long as we support Israel, then we are a target. So, you have to destroy the aggressor. That's the only way to support Israel and not be at constant state of war.

    Giving them resources only multiplies the problem.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,500 Founders Club

    It's both. They would care a lot less about the social issues if Israel wasn't an issue. I don't think they take the time, money, and resources to come over here on Visas, train to fly planes, and then ram them into buildings just because we're tolerant of gays.
    What if the Palestians had been building a country since 1948 and all the Arab neighbors who love them so much had helped out. Israel built an economic power of a democracy right next door to a cesspool of death and despair.

    And that is Israel's fault, not the leaders of the cesspool who chose the pursuit of death over life.

    Israel could LEAVE tomorrow and the next day the little sand savages would still be dealing in death.

    But in your mind they fly planes into buildings over a homeland that is a myth and none of them ever had

    And the shitheads that did fly the planes came from middle class and rich families. The Bin Ladens are very wealthy.

    Next
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    What if the Palestians had been building a country since 1948 and all the Arab neighbors who love them so much had helped out. Israel built an economic power of a democracy right next door to a cesspool of death and despair.

    And that is Israel's fault, not the leaders of the cesspool who chose the pursuit of death over life.

    Israel could LEAVE tomorrow and the next day the little sand savages would still be dealing in death.

    But in your mind they fly planes into buildings over a homeland that is a myth and none of them ever had

    And the shitheads that did fly the planes came from middle class and rich families. The Bin Ladens are very wealthy.

    Next
    This is true. They do fly planes into building over a homeland that is a myth and none of them ever had.

    They aren't rational, but where in history are religious disputes ever rational? This group is full of crazies that would love nothing more than to blow up Israel and claim the Islamic mythical land they feel they are entitled to.

    If we left Israel alone to be wiped out, we'd see the end of the conflict on our side, but we aren't going to let that happen, so we have to destroy ISIS, and the radical Islamic state that support it.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 27,069 Swaye's Wigwam

    This is true. They do fly planes into building over a homeland that is a myth and none of them ever had.

    They aren't rational, but where in history are religious disputes ever rational? This group is full of crazies that would love nothing more than to blow up Israel and claim the Islamic mythical land they feel they are entitled to.

    If we left Israel alone to be wiped out we'd see the end of the conflict on our side, but we aren't going to let that happen, so we have to destroy ISIS, and the radical Islamic state that support it.
    Isreal isn't getting wiped out

    Muslims had their chance 50 years ago, and got assfucked by the Israelis.

    Is Israeli part of the problem in brokering a peace? Sure.

    Palestine and friends are 1,000,000 times more of an issue.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited March 2016

    Isreal isn't getting wiped out

    Muslims had their chance 50 years ago, and got assfucked by the Israelis.

    Is Israeli part of the problem in brokering a peace? Sure.

    Palestine and friends are 1,000,000 times more of an issue.
    I agree. But what I'm saying in the mind of ISIS, Israel just being there is the root of the problem. Israel and any nation that supports them, is subject to ISIS attacks. So if Israel is our ally, we need to quit fucking around and kick some ass.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,901

    Name one war where there wasn't some form of collateral damage...

    Thought so
    Didn't say there was one. But if you think that some collateral damage isn't intentional, I have a bridge, er wall to sell you.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,500 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Didn't say there was one. But if you think that some collateral damage isn't intentional, I have a bridge, er wall to sell you.
    I agree here. Dresden and Tokyo were designed to get the civilians to quit, as were the A bombs, along with saving us an invasion.

    I think our attempts to limit collateral damage began about the time we stopped winning wars. But the damage continued.

    Hence my total war or no war platform
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited March 2016
    salemcoog said:

    Didn't say there was one. But if you think that some collateral damage isn't intentional, I have a bridge, er wall to sell you.
    Intentional vs going out of your way to cause collateral damage. If you know a terrorist leader is in his bedroom sleeping, you drop the bomb on his bedroom right? Now if his wife is sleeping next to him, does that mean you don't drop it? So that's intentional collateral damage. You're not going out of your way to do it, but when an opportunity comes and you are in war, some things just have to be done.

    But yes, like Race said, you are either in war or not in war. If you are in war there is some collateral damage that needs to be expected and accepted if you're going to win the war. All in or lose, is basically the point Race and many of us are making..
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,901

    Intentional vs going out of your way to cause collateral damage. If you know a terrorist leader is in his bedroom sleeping, you drop the bomb on his bedroom right? Now if his wife is sleeping next to him, does that mean you don't drop it? So that's intentional collateral damage. You're not going out of your way to do it, but when an opportunity comes and you are in war, some things just have to be done.

    But yes, like Race said, you are either in war or not in war. If you are in war there is some collateral damage that needs to be expected and accepted if you're going to win the war. All in or lose, is basically the point Race and many of us are making..
    I agree, In order to make an omelet you have to break some eggs. And sometimes you know there will be collateral damage in the process. I was calling bs to the blanket post that said that our policy doesn't allow for collateral damage, because we will do it. If we have a situation where we can save a thousand other lives by taking a hundred innocent ones, we'll do it.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 27,069 Swaye's Wigwam
    salemcoog said:

    If you truly believe that the US doesn't or hasn't strike knowing there will be collateral damage. I can't help you.
    That's not what I believe. At all...lmao

    They fucking know there will be collateral. I know there will be collateral. Everyone knows it. It's what happens during a conflict.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,407 Founders Club

    What if the Palestians had been building a country since 1948 and all the Arab neighbors who love them so much had helped out. Israel built an economic power of a democracy right next door to a cesspool of death and despair.

    And that is Israel's fault, not the leaders of the cesspool who chose the pursuit of death over life.

    Israel could LEAVE tomorrow and the next day the little sand savages would still be dealing in death.

    But in your mind they fly planes into buildings over a homeland that is a myth and none of them ever had

    And the shitheads that did fly the planes came from middle class and rich families. The Bin Ladens are very wealthy.

    Next
    Nice right wing narrative and way to put words in my mouth

    Some might deal in death but it wouldn't be widespread.

    I don't want to sound like Hondo but your news sources aren't giving you the full picture.

    Go ahead, continue your rants though. Get it out of your system buddy.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Either nuke the whole continent or go for systematic genocide. I think nukes are cheaper but radiation is a bitch. Maybe we can just carpet bomb without nukes. Make Mecca a Disneyworld Resort.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,500 Founders Club

    Nice right wing narrative and way to put words in my mouth

    Some might deal in death but it wouldn't be widespread.

    I don't want to sound like Hondo but your news sources aren't giving you the full picture.

    Go ahead, continue your rants though. Get it out of your system buddy.
    You sound like Hondo

    What was my rant? The facts you can't refute?
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,320 Swaye's Wigwam
    Israel should move to Baja like Adam Carolla has been saying forever. The Arab governments would just implode if they didn't have the Israeli scapegoat to pin their internal issues on to their people. Israel has provided a great common mythical enemy.
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