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I'm worried about Trump tomorrow

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,623 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Hippopeteamus said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    I know everyone and their mother has taken turns predicting his demise but this violence at his rally's stuff is troubling. I was cool with all the other stuff. You want to dance with the KKK for a second, fine. You want to talk shit about McCains military record, alright. You want to call people names and say women are on their periods when they disagree with you, great. You want to call Mexicans rapists and build a wall, whatever. But the violence thing is actually bothering me.

    I don't care who started what. I think it was Trump but I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit if it was Bernie and I wouldn't even give a shit if it was Hillary. What I give a shit about is his response and I'm starting to doubt that he can handle what he's started. I don't agree with much of what he says but I can see how it would work but he has to have control and it seems like he's losing that grip.

    So my concern is that if this is bothering me perhaps it's bothering others. There is obviously a segment of the population that will just vote for him regardless but I think he needs more than them.

    I am not so worried that something might happen in this election cycle, but, assuming Trump loses, how will his most ardent supporters act? Trump is speaking for a large segment of the conservative base population that feels disenfranchised and believes, at least partially rightly, that their concerns are not being heard.
    His support is almost as strong among democrats as republicans.

    Trump appeals to angry white people of both parties and no party.
    The rabble in the street seems a lot more angry. The angry white voter goes back to Reagan. Lazy take
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  • Hippopeteamus
    Hippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,958
    dnc said:

    Hippopeteamus said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    I know everyone and their mother has taken turns predicting his demise but this violence at his rally's stuff is troubling. I was cool with all the other stuff. You want to dance with the KKK for a second, fine. You want to talk shit about McCains military record, alright. You want to call people names and say women are on their periods when they disagree with you, great. You want to call Mexicans rapists and build a wall, whatever. But the violence thing is actually bothering me.

    I don't care who started what. I think it was Trump but I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit if it was Bernie and I wouldn't even give a shit if it was Hillary. What I give a shit about is his response and I'm starting to doubt that he can handle what he's started. I don't agree with much of what he says but I can see how it would work but he has to have control and it seems like he's losing that grip.

    So my concern is that if this is bothering me perhaps it's bothering others. There is obviously a segment of the population that will just vote for him regardless but I think he needs more than them.

    I am not so worried that something might happen in this election cycle, but, assuming Trump loses, how will his most ardent supporters act? Trump is speaking for a large segment of the conservative base population that feels disenfranchised and believes, at least partially rightly, that their concerns are not being heard.
    His support is almost as strong among democrats as republicans.

    Trump appeals to angry white people of both parties and no party.
    Good point. I was sort of thinking of conservative in the sense of not wanting America to move a way from its cultural roots, but that might not be what the democratic Trump supporters are worried about.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,500
    Lol this would be like back in 2013 if a Seahawks fan went to the game at San francisco (or vice versa) and sat in the hardcore 49er fan section and started yelling and talking shit. What the fuck do you think is going to happen?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,623 Founders Club
    Sanders preaches the same message as Trump and was against immigration before because of the effect on wages. It's not racism it's populism. Same message different solutions
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    doogsinparadise said:

    Nice deflection. Why don't you answer the question.

    He obviously wasn't talking about that. That was a horrible thing that happened in Kent. He shouldn't use generalities as much. However, your issue is, you have a ton of heart but no intelligence. You assume the worse, with out using any form of analysis.
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    PurpleThrobber said:

    I don't have a dog in the fight - but if you come into my house and pee on the carpet, I'll probably rub your nose in it.

    WTF did these 'protestors' think would happen at a Trump rally? Christ.


    What did the Jews think would happen living in Germany? Always trying to be the victim smh.
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    RaceBannon said:

    Sanders preaches the same message as Trump and was against immigration before because of the effect on wages. It's not racism it's populism. Same message different solutions

    Trump was on the right track with the NAFTA and WTO bashing, but blaming Mexican immigrants who are equally as victimized by those same policies was backwards and lets the true villains (Davos Man, central banks, etc.) off the hook. The anger is definitely legitimate, but in my opinion is misplaced and counter productive.

    By falling into racist cliches and dogwhistle politics Trump is giving DC elites an easy stick to lash back at him with, obscuring the economic argument. Bad political process will undermine a good argument.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    doogsinparadise said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Sanders preaches the same message as Trump and was against immigration before because of the effect on wages. It's not racism it's populism. Same message different solutions

    Trump was on the right track with the NAFTA and WTO bashing, but blaming Mexican immigrants who are equally as victimized by those same policies was backwards and lets the true villains (Davos Man, central banks, etc.) off the hook. The anger is definitely legitimate, but in my opinion is misplaced and counter productive.

    By falling into racist cliches and dogwhistle politics Trump is giving DC elites an easy stick to lash back at him with, obscuring the economic argument. Bad political process will undermine a good argument.
    All negative press has never had any effect on him, except make him stronger. I am not betting against the guy until something sticks. He's Teflon.
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    So it would seem.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,591 Standard Supporter
    doogsinparadise said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    I don't have a dog in the fight - but if you come into my house and pee on the carpet, I'll probably rub your nose in it.

    WTF did these 'protestors' think would happen at a Trump rally? Christ.


    What did the Jews think would happen living in Germany? Always trying to be the victim smh.
    Thanks, Godwin.

    Fuck.
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