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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Sledog said:

    Merriam-Webster Says:

    Simple Definition of socialism
    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    Full Definition of socialism
    1
    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3
    : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    My definition is a bunch of ideologues gain power and then become the elite, Control everything, squeeze every penny out of the system and live like kings. As they gain power they kill any opposition or send them to forced labor camps. They exterminate the educated and reeducate the uneducated to follow the great system. Then the economy turns to mush and the masses live in poverty.

    Seems to be how it's gone so far!

    After reading that, most people should be able to figure out that Bernie isn't a socialist.

    Your simple brain seems to need simple labels to understand the world.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,908
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    edited March 2016

    Sledog said:

    Merriam-Webster Says:

    Simple Definition of socialism
    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    Full Definition of socialism
    1
    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3
    : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    My definition is a bunch of ideologues gain power and then become the elite, Control everything, squeeze every penny out of the system and live like kings. As they gain power they kill any opposition or send them to forced labor camps. They exterminate the educated and reeducate the uneducated to follow the great system. Then the economy turns to mush and the masses live in poverty.

    Seems to be how it's gone so far!

    After reading that, most people should be able to figure out that Bernie isn't a socialist.

    Your simple brain seems to need simple labels to understand the world.
    History repeats itself. Oh and does the government takeover of GM ring a bell?

    Maybe I'll ask the 2 guys I know that lived in Cambodia when the Khmer Rouge took over to explain it to you. Maybe people I've talked to from Russia, East Germany etc. etc. You are a dumb as a mud fence.

    Bernie says he's a socialist. So therefore Bernie is a socialist.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Merriam-Webster Says:

    Simple Definition of socialism
    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    Full Definition of socialism
    1
    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3
    : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    My definition is a bunch of ideologues gain power and then become the elite, Control everything, squeeze every penny out of the system and live like kings. As they gain power they kill any opposition or send them to forced labor camps. They exterminate the educated and reeducate the uneducated to follow the great system. Then the economy turns to mush and the masses live in poverty.

    Seems to be how it's gone so far!

    After reading that, most people should be able to figure out that Bernie isn't a socialist.

    Your simple brain seems to need simple labels to understand the world.
    History repeats itself. Oh and does the government takeover of GM ring a bell?

    Maybe I'll ask the 2 guys I know that lived in Cambodia when the Khmer Rouge took over to explain it to you. Maybe people I've talked to from Russia, East Germany etc. etc. You are a dumb as a mud fence.

    Bernie says he's a socialist. So therefore Bernie is a socialist.
    The government doesn't OWN GM.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=GM+Major+Holders
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,908
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Merriam-Webster Says:

    Simple Definition of socialism
    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    Full Definition of socialism
    1
    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3
    : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    My definition is a bunch of ideologues gain power and then become the elite, Control everything, squeeze every penny out of the system and live like kings. As they gain power they kill any opposition or send them to forced labor camps. They exterminate the educated and reeducate the uneducated to follow the great system. Then the economy turns to mush and the masses live in poverty.

    Seems to be how it's gone so far!

    After reading that, most people should be able to figure out that Bernie isn't a socialist.

    Your simple brain seems to need simple labels to understand the world.
    History repeats itself. Oh and does the government takeover of GM ring a bell?

    Maybe I'll ask the 2 guys I know that lived in Cambodia when the Khmer Rouge took over to explain it to you. Maybe people I've talked to from Russia, East Germany etc. etc. You are a dumb as a mud fence.

    Bernie says he's a socialist. So therefore Bernie is a socialist.
    The government doesn't OWN GM.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=GM+Major+Holders
    But they did: http://www.economist.com/node/16846494

    I'm still trying to figure out how our government had authority seized a private company that had violated no laws. Maybe you can esplain that Lucy?
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    UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,108
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Merriam-Webster Says:

    Simple Definition of socialism
    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    Full Definition of socialism
    1
    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3
    : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    My definition is a bunch of ideologues gain power and then become the elite, Control everything, squeeze every penny out of the system and live like kings. As they gain power they kill any opposition or send them to forced labor camps. They exterminate the educated and reeducate the uneducated to follow the great system. Then the economy turns to mush and the masses live in poverty.

    Seems to be how it's gone so far!

    After reading that, most people should be able to figure out that Bernie isn't a socialist.

    Your simple brain seems to need simple labels to understand the world.
    History repeats itself. Oh and does the government takeover of GM ring a bell?

    Maybe I'll ask the 2 guys I know that lived in Cambodia when the Khmer Rouge took over to explain it to you. Maybe people I've talked to from Russia, East Germany etc. etc. You are a dumb as a mud fence.

    Bernie says he's a socialist. So therefore Bernie is a socialist.
    The government doesn't OWN GM.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=GM+Major+Holders
    But they did: http://www.economist.com/node/16846494

    I'm still trying to figure out how our government had authority seized a private company that had violated no laws. Maybe you can esplain that Lucy?
    Was Bush a socialist? He was in charge of the auto bailout.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,534
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    The irony is that Sanders has no issue with being called a socialist or democratic socialist and his base has no problem with it either. His movement is based on moving America towards socialism. He is honest. Not sure why so many here want to deny the sky is blue.

    Do you think Sanders is too stupid to know who he is? What party is he a member of? It's not the Democratic Party

    Hope this helps
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    The irony is that Sanders has no issue with being called a socialist or democratic socialist and his base has no problem with it either. His movement is based on moving America towards socialism. He is honest. Not sure why so many here want to deny the sky is blue.

    Do you think Sanders is too stupid to know who he is? What party is he a member of? It's not the Democratic Party

    Hope this helps

    I don't think anyone is voting for government ownership of businesses.

    HTH
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,534
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    2001400ex said:

    The irony is that Sanders has no issue with being called a socialist or democratic socialist and his base has no problem with it either. His movement is based on moving America towards socialism. He is honest. Not sure why so many here want to deny the sky is blue.

    Do you think Sanders is too stupid to know who he is? What party is he a member of? It's not the Democratic Party

    Hope this helps

    I don't think anyone is voting for government ownership of businesses.

    HTH
    How do you know?
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    The irony is that Sanders has no issue with being called a socialist or democratic socialist and his base has no problem with it either. His movement is based on moving America towards socialism. He is honest. Not sure why so many here want to deny the sky is blue.

    Do you think Sanders is too stupid to know who he is? What party is he a member of? It's not the Democratic Party

    Hope this helps

    I don't think anyone is voting for government ownership of businesses.

    HTH
    How do you know?
    All the polls show they are voting for free shit. Where have you been?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,534
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    Is Sanders a socialist or is he too stupid to know who he is?
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    sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
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    2001400ex said:

    The irony is that Sanders has no issue with being called a socialist or democratic socialist and his base has no problem with it either. His movement is based on moving America towards socialism. He is honest. Not sure why so many here want to deny the sky is blue.

    Do you think Sanders is too stupid to know who he is? What party is he a member of? It's not the Democratic Party

    Hope this helps

    I don't think anyone is voting for government ownership of businesses.

    HTH
    I promise you many under 35 types are working toward exactly this.

    Once again, you're proven to be full of shit
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    The irony is that Sanders has no issue with being called a socialist or democratic socialist and his base has no problem with it either. His movement is based on moving America towards socialism. He is honest. Not sure why so many here want to deny the sky is blue.

    Do you think Sanders is too stupid to know who he is? What party is he a member of? It's not the Democratic Party

    Hope this helps

    I don't think anyone is voting for government ownership of businesses.

    HTH
    I promise you many under 35 types are working toward exactly this.

    Once again, you're proven to be full of shit
    What person under 35 wants to work for the government?
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,866
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    edited March 2016
    Tony Blair's Labour Party is considered "socialist." He was basically a centrist.

    Hth
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    HuskyJWHuskyJW Guest, Member Posts: 14,186
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    Is Sanders a socialist or is he too stupid to know who he is?

    Huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFAq-4Vv5c0
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,908
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    20014 why would you think him calling himself a socialist doesn't mean he's a socialist?

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Merriam-Webster Says:

    Simple Definition of socialism
    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    Full Definition of socialism
    1
    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3
    : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    My definition is a bunch of ideologues gain power and then become the elite, Control everything, squeeze every penny out of the system and live like kings. As they gain power they kill any opposition or send them to forced labor camps. They exterminate the educated and reeducate the uneducated to follow the great system. Then the economy turns to mush and the masses live in poverty.

    Seems to be how it's gone so far!

    After reading that, most people should be able to figure out that Bernie isn't a socialist.

    Your simple brain seems to need simple labels to understand the world.
    History repeats itself. Oh and does the government takeover of GM ring a bell?

    Maybe I'll ask the 2 guys I know that lived in Cambodia when the Khmer Rouge took over to explain it to you. Maybe people I've talked to from Russia, East Germany etc. etc. You are a dumb as a mud fence.

    Bernie says he's a socialist. So therefore Bernie is a socialist.
    The government doesn't OWN GM.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=GM+Major+Holders
    But they did: http://www.economist.com/node/16846494

    I'm still trying to figure out how our government had authority seized a private company that had violated no laws. Maybe you can esplain that Lucy?
    Was Bush a socialist? He was in charge of the auto bailout.
    Bush did give money to Chrysler and GM. BHO seized control of GM and appointed someone to run it. Big difference. I guess BHO has said everything is Bush'd fault to much. I'll bring everyone some Chinese food back from my trip. Place your orders.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Sledog said:

    20014 why would you think him calling himself a socialist doesn't mean he's a socialist?

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Merriam-Webster Says:

    Simple Definition of socialism
    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    Full Definition of socialism
    1
    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3
    : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    My definition is a bunch of ideologues gain power and then become the elite, Control everything, squeeze every penny out of the system and live like kings. As they gain power they kill any opposition or send them to forced labor camps. They exterminate the educated and reeducate the uneducated to follow the great system. Then the economy turns to mush and the masses live in poverty.

    Seems to be how it's gone so far!

    After reading that, most people should be able to figure out that Bernie isn't a socialist.

    Your simple brain seems to need simple labels to understand the world.
    History repeats itself. Oh and does the government takeover of GM ring a bell?

    Maybe I'll ask the 2 guys I know that lived in Cambodia when the Khmer Rouge took over to explain it to you. Maybe people I've talked to from Russia, East Germany etc. etc. You are a dumb as a mud fence.

    Bernie says he's a socialist. So therefore Bernie is a socialist.
    The government doesn't OWN GM.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=GM+Major+Holders
    But they did: http://www.economist.com/node/16846494

    I'm still trying to figure out how our government had authority seized a private company that had violated no laws. Maybe you can esplain that Lucy?
    Was Bush a socialist? He was in charge of the auto bailout.
    Bush did give money to Chrysler and GM. BHO seized control of GM and appointed someone to run it. Big difference. I guess BHO has said everything is Bush'd fault to much. I'll bring everyone some Chinese food back from my trip. Place your orders.
    Nobody cares about your bus ride to the Safeway deli.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,908
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    Sledog said:

    20014 why would you think him calling himself a socialist doesn't mean he's a socialist?

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Merriam-Webster Says:

    Simple Definition of socialism
    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    Full Definition of socialism
    1
    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
    2
    a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
    3
    : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    My definition is a bunch of ideologues gain power and then become the elite, Control everything, squeeze every penny out of the system and live like kings. As they gain power they kill any opposition or send them to forced labor camps. They exterminate the educated and reeducate the uneducated to follow the great system. Then the economy turns to mush and the masses live in poverty.

    Seems to be how it's gone so far!

    After reading that, most people should be able to figure out that Bernie isn't a socialist.

    Your simple brain seems to need simple labels to understand the world.
    History repeats itself. Oh and does the government takeover of GM ring a bell?

    Maybe I'll ask the 2 guys I know that lived in Cambodia when the Khmer Rouge took over to explain it to you. Maybe people I've talked to from Russia, East Germany etc. etc. You are a dumb as a mud fence.

    Bernie says he's a socialist. So therefore Bernie is a socialist.
    The government doesn't OWN GM.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=GM+Major+Holders
    But they did: http://www.economist.com/node/16846494

    I'm still trying to figure out how our government had authority seized a private company that had violated no laws. Maybe you can esplain that Lucy?
    Was Bush a socialist? He was in charge of the auto bailout.
    Bush did give money to Chrysler and GM. BHO seized control of GM and appointed someone to run it. Big difference. I guess BHO has said everything is Bush'd fault to much. I'll bring everyone some Chinese food back from my trip. Place your orders.
    Nobody cares about your bus ride to the Safeway deli.
    My ride does burn diesel. But it can carry your order of rainbows and unicorn farts no problem.
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