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Cruz's birther issue

topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
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edited March 2016 in Tug Tavern
Will be decided on Monday.

This is a bigger deal than I thought it was.

His father, was a Cuban who came to America on a student visa. Because Cruz' folk hate America he then went to Canada where he became a citizen.

He then knocked up Cruz's mom, where she birthed him in Alberta.

The father being a Canuck via Cuba ... makes it very interesting:

As late as 1961, the Supreme Court ruled that the 1802 Naturalization Act only made a child born abroad a citizen if the father was a citizen. So the idea that a mother had the same right as a father did to grant citizenship to her child is simply not true. The citizenship of Ted Cruz’s Delaware-born mother means less than the candidate wants to believe

And this:

Ted Cruz’s status is further complicated by his dual citizenship. He acquired Canadian citizenship at birth, and only recently renounced it. Can a person be “natural born” in two nations? Which “natural born” identity trumps the other? Cruz’s claim to being a “natural born” U.S. citizen is a legal fiction, of course, because his real identity as a child was a mixture of a Cuban-born naturalized Canadian father and an American mother. He remained a natural born Canadian even after he moved to the United States, and he only substantiated his claim to American status when he took legal steps to declare his citizenship–for example, when he acquired a passport and voted. He became an American citizen retroactively; his actions did not erase the equally powerful presumptive claim of his Canadian nationality. If Cruz’s parents had remained in Canada, and his mother had become a Canadian citizen, Ted Cruz no doubt would have become a Canadian citizen.


After Little Rubio drops ... expect this to be visited again.
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    topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
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    topdawgnc said:

    Will be decided on Monday.

    This is a bigger deal than I thought it was.

    His father, was a Cuban who came to America on a student visa. Because Cruz' folk hate America he then went to Canada where he became a citizen.

    He then knocked up Cruz's mom, where she birthed him in Alberta.

    The father being a Canuck via Cuba ... makes it very interesting:

    As late as 1961, the Supreme Court ruled that the 1802 Naturalization Act only made a child born abroad a citizen if the father was a citizen. So the idea that a mother had the same right as a father did to grant citizenship to her child is simply not true. The citizenship of Ted Cruz’s Delaware-born mother means less than the candidate wants to believe

    After Little Rubio drops ... expect this to be visited again.

    No fucking way the Supreme Court rules against the woman as having any less rights or status than a male. 1961 they were still turning fire hoses and dogs loose on people of color. That's 55 fucking years ago. Women were still smoking and knocking back high balls during pregnancy then too. Not saying that's wrong, just times have changed. Don't twist.

    So the second part ...

    He claimed to be a Canadian natural born too.

    It is slippery slope ...
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    LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,121
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    Obama said that stuff doesn't mean shit
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,536
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    Canadians have been great in music and comedy here. Let's see how they do in the White House

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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,900
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    Swaye said:

    BETTER A CANADIAN THAN A KENYAN!!!!!!!!!11111!!!11LOL11!!!!!111!!!!LULZ!!!1111FUCK1!

    That's tough. Coffee vs. maple Syrup.

    Abundance?
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    bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 14,914
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    Cruz's dad was into some crazy ass religious shit that should make people way more nervous about him than whether he is Canadian or not
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    The best part is. The constitutionalist in the race isn't even American.
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    HeretoBeatmyChestHeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
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    Cruz is the biggest conman in the race. His whole outsider shtick is a farce. He is not a Bernie or Trump when it comes to fundraising. A lot of Bush people have just joined his team, which is all you need to know.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/who-is-the-real-ted-cruz/

    Cruz also is a bad general election candidate because he is by far the weakest of the R candidates in the swing states. That matters more than the popular vote polls.
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    NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,791
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    Cruz also is a bad general election candidate because he is by far the weakest of the R candidates in the swing states. That matters more than the popular vote polls.

    This doesn't get emphasized enough by the media. Per politico the swing states that mean shit in 2016 are Ohio, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Virginia, and Florida... but realistically its Ohio/Virginia/Florida that are the only ones that matter.

    Cruz did already did terribly in Virginia. In Florida, his absolute best poll had him at 15% for the GOP primary, and in the Florida specific head-to-head against Clinton he loses by 8 points (as well as loses by 7 points to Sanders). Ohio he's a little better off, but still down by 10 or 20 points to Trump (depending on the poll).
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    NEsnake12 said:


    Cruz also is a bad general election candidate because he is by far the weakest of the R candidates in the swing states. That matters more than the popular vote polls.

    This doesn't get emphasized enough by the media. Per politico the swing states that mean shit in 2016 are Ohio, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Virginia, and Florida... but realistically its Ohio/Virginia/Florida that are the only ones that matter.

    Cruz did already did terribly in Virginia. In Florida, his absolute best poll had him at 15% for the GOP primary, and in the Florida specific head-to-head against Clinton he loses by 8 points (as well as loses by 7 points to Sanders). Ohio he's a little better off, but still down by 10 or 20 points to Trump (depending on the poll).
    This is why I'm surprised the establishment hasn't pushed Kasich.
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    doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
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    Kasich's a cornball doofus.
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    sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
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    but, did you know his Dad was a mailman?
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,908
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    edited March 2016
    If the Kenyan village's missing idiot can be, Cruz can be. Lib's wished this upon us and made it so!
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    If the Kenyan village's missing idiot can be, Cruz can be. Lib's wished this upon us and made it so!

    You had to edit that?
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    HuskyInAZHuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
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    Kasich's a cornball doofus.

    Kasich is the only candidate, either party, who has accomplished anything of substance in government. He's just not willing to be a political party lap dog, so the party doesn't support him.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Sledog said:

    If the Kenyan village's missing idiot can be, Cruz can be. Lib's wished this upon us and made it so!

    Cruz is a faggot.

    Not surprised you like him.
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    topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
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    but, did you know his Dad was a mailman?

    And ... he eluded to the fact his daughters might be gay.

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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,551
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    Canadians have been great in music and comedy here. Let's see how they do in the White House

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    #mygeneration

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