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Cruz's birther issue

topdawgnc
topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,841
edited March 2016 in Tug Tavern
Will be decided on Monday.

This is a bigger deal than I thought it was.

His father, was a Cuban who came to America on a student visa. Because Cruz' folk hate America he then went to Canada where he became a citizen.

He then knocked up Cruz's mom, where she birthed him in Alberta.

The father being a Canuck via Cuba ... makes it very interesting:

As late as 1961, the Supreme Court ruled that the 1802 Naturalization Act only made a child born abroad a citizen if the father was a citizen. So the idea that a mother had the same right as a father did to grant citizenship to her child is simply not true. The citizenship of Ted Cruz’s Delaware-born mother means less than the candidate wants to believe

And this:

Ted Cruz’s status is further complicated by his dual citizenship. He acquired Canadian citizenship at birth, and only recently renounced it. Can a person be “natural born” in two nations? Which “natural born” identity trumps the other? Cruz’s claim to being a “natural born” U.S. citizen is a legal fiction, of course, because his real identity as a child was a mixture of a Cuban-born naturalized Canadian father and an American mother. He remained a natural born Canadian even after he moved to the United States, and he only substantiated his claim to American status when he took legal steps to declare his citizenship–for example, when he acquired a passport and voted. He became an American citizen retroactively; his actions did not erase the equally powerful presumptive claim of his Canadian nationality. If Cruz’s parents had remained in Canada, and his mother had become a Canadian citizen, Ted Cruz no doubt would have become a Canadian citizen.


After Little Rubio drops ... expect this to be visited again.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,841

    topdawgnc said:

    Will be decided on Monday.

    This is a bigger deal than I thought it was.

    His father, was a Cuban who came to America on a student visa. Because Cruz' folk hate America he then went to Canada where he became a citizen.

    He then knocked up Cruz's mom, where she birthed him in Alberta.

    The father being a Canuck via Cuba ... makes it very interesting:

    As late as 1961, the Supreme Court ruled that the 1802 Naturalization Act only made a child born abroad a citizen if the father was a citizen. So the idea that a mother had the same right as a father did to grant citizenship to her child is simply not true. The citizenship of Ted Cruz’s Delaware-born mother means less than the candidate wants to believe

    After Little Rubio drops ... expect this to be visited again.

    No fucking way the Supreme Court rules against the woman as having any less rights or status than a male. 1961 they were still turning fire hoses and dogs loose on people of color. That's 55 fucking years ago. Women were still smoking and knocking back high balls during pregnancy then too. Not saying that's wrong, just times have changed. Don't twist.

    So the second part ...

    He claimed to be a Canadian natural born too.

    It is slippery slope ...
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,775 Founders Club
    Obama said that stuff doesn't mean shit
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,996 Founders Club
    Canadians have been great in music and comedy here. Let's see how they do in the White House

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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,769 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    BETTER A CANADIAN THAN A KENYAN!!!!!!!!!11111!!!11LOL11!!!!!111!!!!LULZ!!!1111FUCK1!

    That's tough. Coffee vs. maple Syrup.

    Abundance?
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,640
    Cruz's dad was into some crazy ass religious shit that should make people way more nervous about him than whether he is Canadian or not
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    The best part is. The constitutionalist in the race isn't even American.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Cruz is the biggest conman in the race. His whole outsider shtick is a farce. He is not a Bernie or Trump when it comes to fundraising. A lot of Bush people have just joined his team, which is all you need to know.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/who-is-the-real-ted-cruz/

    Cruz also is a bad general election candidate because he is by far the weakest of the R candidates in the swing states. That matters more than the popular vote polls.