Feel the Bern

PurpleJ said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

Looks like there's a precedent set:

The officials said they think that Petraeus’s actions were more egregious than those of Clinton and her aides because he lied to the FBI, and classified information he shared with his biographer contained top secret code words, identities of covert officers, war strategy and intelligence capabilities. Prosecutors initially threatened to charge him with three felonies, including conspiracy, violating the Espionage Act and lying to the FBI. But after negotiations, Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified information.

Really they need to come out and decide prosecute or no. The last thing this country needs is to have an ongoing suit with a presidential nominee. Same deal with Cruz. His eligibility for president needs to be solved, either yes or no.

It looks like Hillary committed felonies so it's time to hook her up and send her to trial.

Cruz is just as eligible as Obama but we now are playing by the rules that let Obama run. I don't think either is eligible but we now have new rules. Natural born to the framers of the constitution was two citizen parents and born in the united states. This prevents kings etc from sending sons over to impregnate a female citizen and then throw their financial weight behind that person to get them into power and rule by proxy. The framers had just finished getting rid of kings etc, and didn't want something like that happening. Unfortunately the respective parties certify if the candidate is legal. Their is no governmental entity that performs that function that I can locate or any record of it being done. The bed is now made so we all get to sleep in it.

Obama was born in Hawaii. Cruz was born in Canada. How are they the same? Not to mention the Cruz deal will end up at the supreme court, this is much larger than a political party deal.

You are some kind of special retard.

Kenya*

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

Looks like there's a precedent set:

The officials said they think that Petraeus’s actions were more egregious than those of Clinton and her aides because he lied to the FBI, and classified information he shared with his biographer contained top secret code words, identities of covert officers, war strategy and intelligence capabilities. Prosecutors initially threatened to charge him with three felonies, including conspiracy, violating the Espionage Act and lying to the FBI. But after negotiations, Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified information.

Really they need to come out and decide prosecute or no. The last thing this country needs is to have an ongoing suit with a presidential nominee. Same deal with Cruz. His eligibility for president needs to be solved, either yes or no.

It looks like Hillary committed felonies so it's time to hook her up and send her to trial.

Cruz is just as eligible as Obama but we now are playing by the rules that let Obama run. I don't think either is eligible but we now have new rules. Natural born to the framers of the constitution was two citizen parents and born in the united states. This prevents kings etc from sending sons over to impregnate a female citizen and then throw their financial weight behind that person to get them into power and rule by proxy. The framers had just finished getting rid of kings etc, and didn't want something like that happening. Unfortunately the respective parties certify if the candidate is legal. Their is no governmental entity that performs that function that I can locate or any record of it being done. The bed is now made so we all get to sleep in it.

Obama was born in Hawaii. Cruz was born in Canada. How are they the same? Not to mention the Cruz deal will end up at the supreme court, this is much larger than a political party deal.

You are some kind of special retard.

dnc said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

Looks like there's a precedent set:

The officials said they think that Petraeus’s actions were more egregious than those of Clinton and her aides because he lied to the FBI, and classified information he shared with his biographer contained top secret code words, identities of covert officers, war strategy and intelligence capabilities. Prosecutors initially threatened to charge him with three felonies, including conspiracy, violating the Espionage Act and lying to the FBI. But after negotiations, Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified information.

Really they need to come out and decide prosecute or no. The last thing this country needs is to have an ongoing suit with a presidential nominee. Same deal with Cruz. His eligibility for president needs to be solved, either yes or no.

It looks like Hillary committed felonies so it's time to hook her up and send her to trial.

Cruz is just as eligible as Obama but we now are playing by the rules that let Obama run. I don't think either is eligible but we now have new rules. Natural born to the framers of the constitution was two citizen parents and born in the united states. This prevents kings etc from sending sons over to impregnate a female citizen and then throw their financial weight behind that person to get them into power and rule by proxy. The framers had just finished getting rid of kings etc, and didn't want something like that happening. Unfortunately the respective parties certify if the candidate is legal. Their is no governmental entity that performs that function that I can locate or any record of it being done. The bed is now made so we all get to sleep in it.

Obama was born in Hawaii. Cruz was born in Canada. How are they the same? Not to mention the Cruz deal will end up at the supreme court, this is much larger than a political party deal.

You are some kind of special retard.

You can't prove Obama was born in Hawaii and neither can he! Birth cert forged it's obvious to a 3rd grader. Funny the gal that issued it was the only death in a small plane crash and had long ties to the Obama machine back to his childhood. Hmmm....... Like I said playing by the rules allowed for BHO makes Cruz entirely eligible as both his parents were citizens which makes him one no matter where he is born.

Even if Obama was born in Kenya he was eligible just as Cruz is. Citizen mother = natural born citizen. It's always been that way, always will be that way.

Sledog said:

Wouldn't matter under the founders definition as daddy was a foreign national non-citizen communist. Obama couldn't get a security clearance to empty the trash at Boeing.

What does it mean to be a "natural born citizen"?

Most legal experts contend it means someone is a citizen from birth and doesn’t have to go through a naturalization process to become a citizen.

If that’s the definition, then Cruz is a natural born citizen by being born to an American mother and having her citizenship at birth. The Congressional Research Service, the agency tasked with providing authoritative research to all members of Congress, published a report after the 2008 election supporting the thinking that "natural born" citizenship means citizenship held "at birth."

There are many legal and historical precedents to strongly back up this argument, experts have said.

Those precedents were the subject of a recent op-ed in the Harvard Law Review by two former solicitor generals of opposing parties, Neal Katyal and Paul Clement, who worked for Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush, respectively. They wrote that "natural born" had a longstanding definition dating back to colonial times.

British common law recognized that children born outside of the British Empire remained subjects, and were described by law as "natural born," Katyal and Clement wrote.

"The framers, of course, would have been intimately familiar with these statutes and the way they used terms like ‘natural born,’ since the (British) statutes were binding law in the colonies before the Revolutionary War,’" they said.

Additionally, the first Congress of the United States passed the Naturalization Act of 1790, just three years after the Constitution was written, which stated that children born abroad to U.S. citizens were, too, natural born citizens. Many members of the inaugural Congress were also authors of the Constitution.