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Rubio/Cruz think tank after tonight?

godawgst
godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,606 Swaye's Wigwam

If you were advising either one of the two candidates after the results in Nevada, what would you tell him?

It appears to me, either you: a) throw a hail-mary all out war on Trump in the next week explaining why he can't win the general election and see if you can convince the base to look through the trees (small picture) and focus on the forest (beating Hillary) or

b) Hope Kasich/Carson and one of the other two drop out after Super Tuesday and you have a 1 on 1 versus Trump for March 8th, 15th, and walk him down that way?
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It's over. Trump is going to fucking win the nomination kick ass on super Tuesday then bow out of the election.

    FIFY
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Rubio/Cruz arent gaining anything on Trump with Bush out. If you looked at the stats I mentioned a few days ago, Trump will pick off a few votes from Bush and Kasich and more from Carson because he's an outsider. It was fucktarded to assume all of the votes from the others outside the top 3 would go to Rubio. Also, now that Trump can win and he has momentum he's getting that front runner bump.

    Rubio isnt even leading in his home state. Cruz is leading in Texas which is huge but what other states will he win?

    If I were Cruz/Rubio campaign I'd advise them to say the other guy should drop out immediately because he can't win and I'm the only one that can beat Trump. Thats what the GOP needs to do. Figure out which one of those has the best chance to beat Trump and put the pressure on the other to drop out. Kasich dropping out is meaningless.
  • droggins
    droggins Member Posts: 804

    Rubio/Cruz arent gaining anything on Trump with Bush out. If you looked at the stats I mentioned a few days ago, Trump will pick off a few votes from Bush and Kasich and more from Carson because he's an outsider. It was fucktarded to assume all of the votes from the others outside the top 3 would go to Rubio. Also, now that Trump can win and he has momentum he's getting that front runner bump.

    Rubio isnt even leading in his home state. Cruz is leading in Texas which is huge but what other states will he win?

    If I were Cruz/Rubio campaign I'd advise them to say the other guy should drop out immediately because he can't win and I'm the only one that can beat Trump. Thats what the GOP needs to do. Figure out which one of those has the best chance to beat Trump and put the pressure on the other to drop out. Kasich dropping out is meaningless.

    Agree. One of them must drop out very soon to give trump some competition. Seems as though the GOP is supporting Rubio.
  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
    I'm actually relishing in this. Reins Priebus is a fucking joke and I love that every single tactic the GOP has plotted out has been thrown in their face. And now they either have to eat shit or find a way to throw the nomination and risk all-out anarchy
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    Just being reported that Trump won the hispanic vote in Nevada.

    The guy who threatens to deport every single illegal immigrant and then build the wall just got more hispanic votes than 2 guys with hispanic last names.

    I'm in awe at this point.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    The whole immigration thing I find fascinating and actually explains a lot to me as to why Trump is winning so easily ...

    The whole illegal immigration thing comes down to what the law is, border security, national security, and enforcing the law. Forgetting immigration, there are countless people that are sick and tired of seeing the Obama/Clinton side of things get away with seemingly do whatever they want whether it is legal or not. Then you start adding all the other issues around the country and there's a definite backlash out there where people are basically saying enough is enough let's start enforcing our laws and holding people accountable to the rules. Trump's hitting the mark with these people big time.

    Add to it that we are coming off of 8 years where Obama speaks in this great flowing language that has no substance behind its rhetoric, yet all we hear from both Obama and Hillary in her campaign is the need to continue on the current path because they just haven't had enough time to recover from Dubya's administration. People are fed up with the bullshit ... there are more smart people out there than what they are given credited for. Looking at the Republican candidates, Cruz can't shut up about policy (that nobody gives a shit about) and you hear Rubio talk and he just comes across as the Republican Obama.

    In the end, Trump has a lot working in his favor.

    The people that think that Trump doesn't have staying power are clearly proven wrong. The people that are voting for him are loyally in his corner. His base is rock solid. There are a lot of people that can't imagine voting for Trump ... but that's because they have options at this point. And that brings to me what I think will be the most fascinating aspect come the Fall:

    Will Republicans be more motivated by defeating Hillary at the expense of having to hold their nose voting for Trump OR will the Democrats that aren't behind Hillary (and there are a number of them as well given Bernie's performance) be more motivated by beating Trump and hold their nose to vote for Hillary?

    At this point, Trump's got to fall on his face IMO to not only fail to win the Republican nomination, but to fail to win the whole thing.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    NEsnake12 said:

    Just being reported that Trump won the hispanic vote in Nevada.

    The guy who threatens to deport every single illegal immigrant and then build the wall just got more hispanic votes than 2 guys with hispanic last names.

    I'm in awe at this point.

    I'm not surprised. The media portrays Hispanics as some sort of united front but it's much more complicated than that.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    NEsnake12 said:

    Just being reported that Trump won the hispanic vote in Nevada.

    The guy who threatens to deport every single illegal immigrant and then build the wall just got more hispanic votes than 2 guys with hispanic last names.

    I'm in awe at this point.

    I'm not surprised. The media portrays Hispanics as some sort of united front but it's much more complicated than that.
    Like Dem pols, it's generational. I find it hard to believe that he would win millenials of any race.

    Trump's candidacy is interesting because he's basically the epitome of a Reagan democrat, and it represents a massive repudiation of the conservative movement.

    I honestly think that only Bernie would beat Trump in the general.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,773
    They deserve to lose if they can't beat Trump.