TL DR (actually only partially being an asshole as I actually am hitting the bar and scoping for girls with low self-esteem in 10 minutes)
Tolls are regressive.
I.E. These tolls don't really effect Chatch much since he makes 7 digits per year and is generally better than the rest of us.
OTOH, it adversely effects the majority of the population, especially guys in mother's basement who are trying to be on time for their shift at the Kirkland Arby's. Even if you make say $100,000 per year, the tolls add up.
It's the same as sales tax. Notice how much that has gone up over the past 20-30 years?
Regressive taxes are progressive Washington's calling card. One of the worst states in the nation for that. Oh well. Suck it up or don't be poor I guess.
Yet the major Republican candidates you support want to go toto a regressive tax structure on the federal level.
Walking fuck stick of hypocrisy you are. J.
I never said I had a problem with a regressive tax structure, just pointing out how hypocritical libtards here are for using one.
TL DR (actually only partially being an asshole as I actually am hitting the bar and scoping for girls with low self-esteem in 10 minutes)
Tolls are regressive.
I.E. These tolls don't really effect Chatch much since he makes 7 digits per year and is generally better than the rest of us.
OTOH, it adversely effects the majority of the population, especially guys in mother's basement who are trying to be on time for their shift at the Kirkland Arby's. Even if you make say $100,000 per year, the tolls add up.
It's the same as sales tax. Notice how much that has gone up over the past 20-30 years?
Regressive taxes are progressive Washington's calling card. One of the worst states in the nation for that. Oh well. Suck it up or don't be poor I guess.
Gee, it's almost like Seattle progressives wanted a graduated income tax two years ago, but were stifled by east side republicans. There's your progressive taxation.
Wanting to add additional taxes that will never go away as a means to pay for ever expanding government is "progressive", agreeing to it is FS.
Kill the sales tax, lower prop tax, and add a state income tax.
I actually agree with this. The lack of a consistent third leg on the tax stool hurts a lot of people. Older folks feel the pain with the property tax in rising real estate markets. Poor folk get fucked on the sales tax.
Reel the sales tax in to less than half of what is is now, add a state income tax and dramatically reduce the property tax.
Tax the shit out of booze and cigarettes. And MJ.
Maybe even put in tax-exempt zones of some sort in border counties to fuck over Idaho and Oregon. With term limits for legislators.
Washington would be a very appealing place to live.
It already is taxed to shit.
Agreed. Tax the shit out of vices like smoking, drinking - hell, maybe even legalize prostitution and tax the shit out of that too and replace the B&O tax which is the most fucked up of all Washington state taxes.
TL DR (actually only partially being an asshole as I actually am hitting the bar and scoping for girls with low self-esteem in 10 minutes)
Tolls are regressive.
I.E. These tolls don't really effect Chatch much since he makes 7 digits per year and is generally better than the rest of us.
OTOH, it adversely effects the majority of the population, especially guys in mother's basement who are trying to be on time for their shift at the Kirkland Arby's. Even if you make say $100,000 per year, the tolls add up.
It's the same as sales tax. Notice how much that has gone up over the past 20-30 years?
Regressive taxes are progressive Washington's calling card. One of the worst states in the nation for that. Oh well. Suck it up or don't be poor I guess.
Yet the major Republican candidates you support want to go toto a regressive tax structure on the federal level.
Walking fuck stick of hypocrisy you are. J.
I never said I had a problem with a regressive tax structure, just pointing out how hypocritical libtards here are for using one.
You don't think liberals haven't tried? Man they have tried a lot to tax income even leaving the taxes to those who make millions. Remember the bill that requires 2/3 majority to pass any tax increase?
1) If WA State instituted a State Income Tax, it would deprive the Federal Government of tax revenues because you can deduct state income taxes paid from your Federal Income taxes.
2) Instituting a State Income Tax would lead to the proverbial Camel Nose under the Tent. "Progressives" would start at some low number like 3% and before you know it, it's up to 10%.
3) People who would be subject to the State Income Tax are generally savvier and more mobile with their money so they could buy a house in a state with no income tax and live there 50.01% of the time to avoid the State Income Tax.
4) "Progressives" would of course not want to lower property taxes because that would be less money for them to shower $$$$ on the public sector unions who form their political and financial base. Property taxes are already going up, at least in Western Washington due to QE / low mortgage rates. Since I bought my house in 2011, my property taxes will have increased roughly 40% by the end of 2016. I'd love to have that money to instead reinvest in my business, to save, and / or to spend in the local economy instead.
5) Like the Federal Government, we could see a division of 2 Washingtons: those who pay state income taxes to help fund the government and those who don't and are moochers.
6) WA State is getting roughly $565 million in new tax revenues every budget due to taxes on pot. One can guess that the tax revenues will increase as more and more people visit the new dispensaries. Could we see $1 billion in new tax revenues in a few years? How much more money do the Politicos in Olympia really need?
If WA State got rid of the public sector unions, then more people might be amenable to a State Income Tax but that will probably never happen. Besides, government at all levels is inherently wasteful (other peoples' money) and government is generally a poor allocator of capital.
TL DR (actually only partially being an asshole as I actually am hitting the bar and scoping for girls with low self-esteem in 10 minutes)
Tolls are regressive.
I.E. These tolls don't really effect Chatch much since he makes 7 digits per year and is generally better than the rest of us.
OTOH, it adversely effects the majority of the population, especially guys in mother's basement who are trying to be on time for their shift at the Kirkland Arby's. Even if you make say $100,000 per year, the tolls add up.
It's the same as sales tax. Notice how much that has gone up over the past 20-30 years?
Regressive taxes are progressive Washington's calling card. One of the worst states in the nation for that. Oh well. Suck it up or don't be poor I guess.
Yet the major Republican candidates you support want to go toto a regressive tax structure on the federal level.
Walking fuck stick of hypocrisy you are. J.
I never said I had a problem with a regressive tax structure, just pointing out how hypocritical libtards here are for using one.
You don't think liberals haven't tried? Man they have tried a lot to tax income even leaving the taxes to those who make millions. Remember the bill that requires 2/3 majority to pass any tax increase?
1) If WA State instituted a State Income Tax, it would deprive the Federal Government of tax revenues because you can deduct state income taxes paid from your Federal Income taxes.
2) Instituting a State Income Tax would lead to the proverbial Camel Nose under the Tent. "Progressives" would start at some low number like 3% and before you know it, it's up to 10%.
3) People who would be subject to the State Income Tax are generally savvier and more mobile with their money so they could buy a house in a state with no income tax and live there 50.01% of the time to avoid the State Income Tax.
4) "Progressives" would of course not want to lower property taxes because that would be less money for them to shower $$$$ on the public sector unions who form their political and financial base. Property taxes are already going up, at least in Western Washington due to QE / low mortgage rates. Since I bought my house in 2011, my property taxes will have increased roughly 40% by the end of 2016. I'd love to have that money to instead reinvest in my business, to save, and / or to spend in the local economy instead.
5) Like the Federal Government, we could see a division of 2 Washingtons: those who pay state income taxes to help fund the government and those who don't and are moochers.
6) WA State is getting roughly $565 million in new tax revenues every budget due to taxes on pot. One can guess that the tax revenues will increase as more and more people visit the new dispensaries. Could we see $1 billion in new tax revenues in a few years? How much more money do the Politicos in Olympia really need?
If WA State got rid of the public sector unions, then more people might be amenable to a State Income Tax but that will probably never happen. Besides, government at all levels is inherently wasteful (other peoples' money) and government is generally a poor allocator of capital.
TL DR (actually only partially being an asshole as I actually am hitting the bar and scoping for girls with low self-esteem in 10 minutes)
Tolls are regressive.
I.E. These tolls don't really effect Chatch much since he makes 7 digits per year and is generally better than the rest of us.
OTOH, it adversely effects the majority of the population, especially guys in mother's basement who are trying to be on time for their shift at the Kirkland Arby's. Even if you make say $100,000 per year, the tolls add up.
It's the same as sales tax. Notice how much that has gone up over the past 20-30 years?
Regressive taxes are progressive Washington's calling card. One of the worst states in the nation for that. Oh well. Suck it up or don't be poor I guess.
Yet the major Republican candidates you support want to go toto a regressive tax structure on the federal level.
Walking fuck stick of hypocrisy you are. J.
I never said I had a problem with a regressive tax structure, just pointing out how hypocritical libtards here are for using one.
You don't think liberals haven't tried? Man they have tried a lot to tax income even leaving the taxes to those who make millions. Remember the bill that requires 2/3 majority to pass any tax increase?
Again. Fuck stick J.
I moved back to Washington partially because there is no sales tax. I wasn't advocating for one, I was pointing at Js fucktarded comment.
1) If WA State instituted a State Income Tax, it would deprive the Federal Government of tax revenues because you can deduct state income taxes paid from your Federal Income taxes.
2) Instituting a State Income Tax would lead to the proverbial Camel Nose under the Tent. "Progressives" would start at some low number like 3% and before you know it, it's up to 10%.
3) People who would be subject to the State Income Tax are generally savvier and more mobile with their money so they could buy a house in a state with no income tax and live there 50.01% of the time to avoid the State Income Tax.
4) "Progressives" would of course not want to lower property taxes because that would be less money for them to shower $$$$ on the public sector unions who form their political and financial base. Property taxes are already going up, at least in Western Washington due to QE / low mortgage rates. Since I bought my house in 2011, my property taxes will have increased roughly 40% by the end of 2016. I'd love to have that money to instead reinvest in my business, to save, and / or to spend in the local economy instead.
5) Like the Federal Government, we could see a division of 2 Washingtons: those who pay state income taxes to help fund the government and those who don't and are moochers.
6) WA State is getting roughly $565 million in new tax revenues every budget due to taxes on pot. One can guess that the tax revenues will increase as more and more people visit the new dispensaries. Could we see $1 billion in new tax revenues in a few years? How much more money do the Politicos in Olympia really need?
If WA State got rid of the public sector unions, then more people might be amenable to a State Income Tax but that will probably never happen. Besides, government at all levels is inherently wasteful (other peoples' money) and government is generally a poor allocator of capital.
TL DR (actually only partially being an asshole as I actually am hitting the bar and scoping for girls with low self-esteem in 10 minutes)
Tolls are regressive.
I.E. These tolls don't really effect Chatch much since he makes 7 digits per year and is generally better than the rest of us.
OTOH, it adversely effects the majority of the population, especially guys in mother's basement who are trying to be on time for their shift at the Kirkland Arby's. Even if you make say $100,000 per year, the tolls add up.
It's the same as sales tax. Notice how much that has gone up over the past 20-30 years?
Regressive taxes are progressive Washington's calling card. One of the worst states in the nation for that. Oh well. Suck it up or don't be poor I guess.
Yet the major Republican candidates you support want to go toto a regressive tax structure on the federal level.
Walking fuck stick of hypocrisy you are. J.
I never said I had a problem with a regressive tax structure, just pointing out how hypocritical libtards here are for using one.
You don't think liberals haven't tried? Man they have tried a lot to tax income even leaving the taxes to those who make millions. Remember the bill that requires 2/3 majority to pass any tax increase?
Again. Fuck stick J.
I moved back to Washington partially because there is no sales tax. I wasn't advocating for one, I was pointing at Js fucktarded comment.
I am not the only one who noticed you are too stupid to realize Washington has a sales tax.
1) If WA State instituted a State Income Tax, it would deprive the Federal Government of tax revenues because you can deduct state income taxes paid from your Federal Income taxes.
2) Instituting a State Income Tax would lead to the proverbial Camel Nose under the Tent. "Progressives" would start at some low number like 3% and before you know it, it's up to 10%.
3) People who would be subject to the State Income Tax are generally savvier and more mobile with their money so they could buy a house in a state with no income tax and live there 50.01% of the time to avoid the State Income Tax.
4) "Progressives" would of course not want to lower property taxes because that would be less money for them to shower $$$$ on the public sector unions who form their political and financial base. Property taxes are already going up, at least in Western Washington due to QE / low mortgage rates. Since I bought my house in 2011, my property taxes will have increased roughly 40% by the end of 2016. I'd love to have that money to instead reinvest in my business, to save, and / or to spend in the local economy instead.
5) Like the Federal Government, we could see a division of 2 Washingtons: those who pay state income taxes to help fund the government and those who don't and are moochers.
6) WA State is getting roughly $565 million in new tax revenues every budget due to taxes on pot. One can guess that the tax revenues will increase as more and more people visit the new dispensaries. Could we see $1 billion in new tax revenues in a few years? How much more money do the Politicos in Olympia really need?
If WA State got rid of the public sector unions, then more people might be amenable to a State Income Tax but that will probably never happen. Besides, government at all levels is inherently wasteful (other peoples' money) and government is generally a poor allocator of capital.
TL DR (actually only partially being an asshole as I actually am hitting the bar and scoping for girls with low self-esteem in 10 minutes)
Tolls are regressive.
I.E. These tolls don't really effect Chatch much since he makes 7 digits per year and is generally better than the rest of us.
OTOH, it adversely effects the majority of the population, especially guys in mother's basement who are trying to be on time for their shift at the Kirkland Arby's. Even if you make say $100,000 per year, the tolls add up.
It's the same as sales tax. Notice how much that has gone up over the past 20-30 years?
Regressive taxes are progressive Washington's calling card. One of the worst states in the nation for that. Oh well. Suck it up or don't be poor I guess.
Yet the major Republican candidates you support want to go toto a regressive tax structure on the federal level.
Walking fuck stick of hypocrisy you are. J.
I never said I had a problem with a regressive tax structure, just pointing out how hypocritical libtards here are for using one.
You don't think liberals haven't tried? Man they have tried a lot to tax income even leaving the taxes to those who make millions. Remember the bill that requires 2/3 majority to pass any tax increase?
Again. Fuck stick J.
I moved back to Washington partially because there is no sales tax. I wasn't advocating for one, I was pointing at Js fucktarded comment.
I am not the only one who noticed you are too stupid to realize Washington has a sales tax.
1) If WA State instituted a State Income Tax, it would deprive the Federal Government of tax revenues because you can deduct state income taxes paid from your Federal Income taxes.
2) Instituting a State Income Tax would lead to the proverbial Camel Nose under the Tent. "Progressives" would start at some low number like 3% and before you know it, it's up to 10%.
3) People who would be subject to the State Income Tax are generally savvier and more mobile with their money so they could buy a house in a state with no income tax and live there 50.01% of the time to avoid the State Income Tax.
4) "Progressives" would of course not want to lower property taxes because that would be less money for them to shower $$$$ on the public sector unions who form their political and financial base. Property taxes are already going up, at least in Western Washington due to QE / low mortgage rates. Since I bought my house in 2011, my property taxes will have increased roughly 40% by the end of 2016. I'd love to have that money to instead reinvest in my business, to save, and / or to spend in the local economy instead.
5) Like the Federal Government, we could see a division of 2 Washingtons: those who pay state income taxes to help fund the government and those who don't and are moochers.
6) WA State is getting roughly $565 million in new tax revenues every budget due to taxes on pot. One can guess that the tax revenues will increase as more and more people visit the new dispensaries. Could we see $1 billion in new tax revenues in a few years? How much more money do the Politicos in Olympia really need?
If WA State got rid of the public sector unions, then more people might be amenable to a State Income Tax but that will probably never happen. Besides, government at all levels is inherently wasteful (other peoples' money) and government is generally a poor allocator of capital.
TL DR (actually only partially being an asshole as I actually am hitting the bar and scoping for girls with low self-esteem in 10 minutes)
Tolls are regressive.
I.E. These tolls don't really effect Chatch much since he makes 7 digits per year and is generally better than the rest of us.
OTOH, it adversely effects the majority of the population, especially guys in mother's basement who are trying to be on time for their shift at the Kirkland Arby's. Even if you make say $100,000 per year, the tolls add up.
It's the same as sales tax. Notice how much that has gone up over the past 20-30 years?
Regressive taxes are progressive Washington's calling card. One of the worst states in the nation for that. Oh well. Suck it up or don't be poor I guess.
Yet the major Republican candidates you support want to go toto a regressive tax structure on the federal level.
Walking fuck stick of hypocrisy you are. J.
I never said I had a problem with a regressive tax structure, just pointing out how hypocritical libtards here are for using one.
You don't think liberals haven't tried? Man they have tried a lot to tax income even leaving the taxes to those who make millions. Remember the bill that requires 2/3 majority to pass any tax increase?
Again. Fuck stick J.
I moved back to Washington partially because there is no sales tax. I wasn't advocating for one, I was pointing at Js fucktarded comment.
I am not the only one who noticed you are too stupid to realize Washington has a sales tax.
It's obvious that there are some tollss here whose intent is to disrupt and eff up this highway before it can get started. Please have the mods ban those tolls pronto.
I've been the mod of my own hobby highway for years. If you don't ban those tolls quickly and often, this place will get out of hand.
As soon as I saw the thread title I went looking to find this poast.
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But, its not about mobility.
Again. Fuck stick J.
1) If WA State instituted a State Income Tax, it would deprive the Federal Government of tax revenues because you can deduct state income taxes paid from your Federal Income taxes.
2) Instituting a State Income Tax would lead to the proverbial Camel Nose under the Tent. "Progressives" would start at some low number like 3% and before you know it, it's up to 10%.
3) People who would be subject to the State Income Tax are generally savvier and more mobile with their money so they could buy a house in a state with no income tax and live there 50.01% of the time to avoid the State Income Tax.
4) "Progressives" would of course not want to lower property taxes because that would be less money for them to shower $$$$ on the public sector unions who form their political and financial base. Property taxes are already going up, at least in Western Washington due to QE / low mortgage rates. Since I bought my house in 2011, my property taxes will have increased roughly 40% by the end of 2016. I'd love to have that money to instead reinvest in my business, to save, and / or to spend in the local economy instead.
5) Like the Federal Government, we could see a division of 2 Washingtons: those who pay state income taxes to help fund the government and those who don't and are moochers.
6) WA State is getting roughly $565 million in new tax revenues every budget due to taxes on pot. One can guess that the tax revenues will increase as more and more people visit the new dispensaries. Could we see $1 billion in new tax revenues in a few years? How much more money do the Politicos in Olympia really need?
If WA State got rid of the public sector unions, then more people might be amenable to a State Income Tax but that will probably never happen. Besides, government at all levels is inherently wasteful (other peoples' money) and government is generally a poor allocator of capital.
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