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Obama Admits Lying About "Violent Gun Deaths"...

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HOTLINK: The Left has been Lying about "Violent Gun Deaths" For Decades
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HOTLINK: The Left has been Lying about "Violent Gun Deaths" For Decades
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In Australia, suicide rates fell drastically after gun control measures.
HTH -
... so move to Australia.
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Why when I can bring Australia here and you move to Canada, where there is no socialism.d2d said:... so move to Australia.
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First: Drastically? http://www.mindframe-media.info/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/11868/Suicide-Figures-ABS-2015.pdf2001400ex said:In Australia, suicide rates fell drastically after gun control measures.
HTH
Second: Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. There could be numerous reasons besides available firearms (depressed economy, change in generational attitudes) that lead people to kill themselves. For instance, Japan, a country with extremely restrictive gun control laws, has a higher suicide rate than the United States (http://gamapserver.who.int/mapLibrary/Files/Maps/Global_AS_suicide_rates_bothsexes_2012.png?ua=1). Changes in any of these could account for lower suicide rates. Guns may play a role, but it is not as simple as saying that having less guns will mean fewer suicides. -
Of course it's not that simple. I'm just making death look like a tard ball mentioning suicides. And how gun control won't effect suicide rates at all.Hippopeteamus said:
First: Drastically? http://www.mindframe-media.info/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/11868/Suicide-Figures-ABS-2015.pdf2001400ex said:In Australia, suicide rates fell drastically after gun control measures.
HTH
Second: Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. There could be numerous reasons besides available firearms (depressed economy, change in generational attitudes) that lead people to kill themselves. For instance, Japan, a country with extremely restrictive gun control laws, has a higher suicide rate than the United States (http://gamapserver.who.int/mapLibrary/Files/Maps/Global_AS_suicide_rates_bothsexes_2012.png?ua=1). Changes in any of these could account for lower suicide rates. Guns may play a role, but it is not as simple as saying that having less guns will mean fewer suicides. -
2001400ex said:
Of course it's not that simple. I'm just making myself look like a tard ball mentioning suicides. And how gun control won't effect suicide rates at all.Hippopeteamus said:
First: Drastically? http://www.mindframe-media.info/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/11868/Suicide-Figures-ABS-2015.pdf2001400ex said:In Australia, suicide rates fell drastically after gun control measures.
HTH
Second: Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. There could be numerous reasons besides available firearms (depressed economy, change in generational attitudes) that lead people to kill themselves. For instance, Japan, a country with extremely restrictive gun control laws, has a higher suicide rate than the United States (http://gamapserver.who.int/mapLibrary/Files/Maps/Global_AS_suicide_rates_bothsexes_2012.png?ua=1). Changes in any of these could account for lower suicide rates. Guns may play a role, but it is not as simple as saying that having less guns will mean fewer suicides. -
so... You're saying its really just a simple gun grab?
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I like to pretend the gun control debate is about suicides. I'm HFS like that.2001400ex said:
Of course it's not that simple. I'm just making death look like a tard ball mentioning suicides. And how gun control won't effect suicide rates at all.Hippopeteamus said:
First: Drastically? http://www.mindframe-media.info/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/11868/Suicide-Figures-ABS-2015.pdf2001400ex said:In Australia, suicide rates fell drastically after gun control measures.
HTH
Second: Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. There could be numerous reasons besides available firearms (depressed economy, change in generational attitudes) that lead people to kill themselves. For instance, Japan, a country with extremely restrictive gun control laws, has a higher suicide rate than the United States (http://gamapserver.who.int/mapLibrary/Files/Maps/Global_AS_suicide_rates_bothsexes_2012.png?ua=1). Changes in any of these could account for lower suicide rates. Guns may play a role, but it is not as simple as saying that having less guns will mean fewer suicides. -
It's about the childrenpawz said:
I like to pretend the gun control debate is about suicides. I'm HFS like that.2001400ex said:
Of course it's not that simple. I'm just making death look like a tard ball mentioning suicides. And how gun control won't effect suicide rates at all.Hippopeteamus said:
First: Drastically? http://www.mindframe-media.info/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/11868/Suicide-Figures-ABS-2015.pdf2001400ex said:In Australia, suicide rates fell drastically after gun control measures.
HTH
Second: Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. There could be numerous reasons besides available firearms (depressed economy, change in generational attitudes) that lead people to kill themselves. For instance, Japan, a country with extremely restrictive gun control laws, has a higher suicide rate than the United States (http://gamapserver.who.int/mapLibrary/Files/Maps/Global_AS_suicide_rates_bothsexes_2012.png?ua=1). Changes in any of these could account for lower suicide rates. Guns may play a role, but it is not as simple as saying that having less guns will mean fewer suicides. -
Fair enough.2001400ex said:
Of course it's not that simple. I'm just making death look like a tard ball mentioning suicides. And how gun control won't effect suicide rates at all.Hippopeteamus said:
First: Drastically? http://www.mindframe-media.info/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/11868/Suicide-Figures-ABS-2015.pdf2001400ex said:In Australia, suicide rates fell drastically after gun control measures.
HTH
Second: Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. There could be numerous reasons besides available firearms (depressed economy, change in generational attitudes) that lead people to kill themselves. For instance, Japan, a country with extremely restrictive gun control laws, has a higher suicide rate than the United States (http://gamapserver.who.int/mapLibrary/Files/Maps/Global_AS_suicide_rates_bothsexes_2012.png?ua=1). Changes in any of these could account for lower suicide rates. Guns may play a role, but it is not as simple as saying that having less guns will mean fewer suicides. -
We need to build "coalitions" and "consensus".
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Just agree with me and we'll have one.
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Is that good or bad?2001400ex said:In Australia, suicide rates fell drastically after gun control measures.
HTH