The Exodus at UCLA Continues
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PurpleJ said:
"You shall not covet your neighbor's natties. You shall not covet your neighbor's Heisman, or his male or female fans, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to USC."
Exodus 20:17
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I don't recall any of his teams going 7-6RoadDawg55 said:Mora leaving could be a good thing for UCLA. He upgraded the talent and expectations (to some degree). He just can't actually coach. His reputation is somehow much greater than what is deserved. He's from a football family and part of the good ol boy network.
The doogs who hate Mora are dumb, but he's an average coach. -
@PurpleJ nailed it.
In Rick's 4 years UCLA was #67 in SRS. Mora turned it around very quickly and did a good job. Problem is he just couldnt get over the hump. Saying he's average means there are about 10-15 coaches who are above average. -
mora is' good
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Psst: It ain't Mora. The ceiling just isn't very high at UCLA.
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Mora came to UCLA at the perfect time to break through that ceiling with USC stuck with sanctions and Pat HadenFS.TTJ said:Psst: It ain't Mora. The ceiling just isn't very high at UCLA.
He brought in a metric fuckton of talent and underachieved horribly.
He would be smart to get out now while he is still employable as a head coach. -
It's as high or higher than any other school besides USC, including Oregon.TTJ said:Psst: It ain't Mora. The ceiling just isn't very high at UCLA.
They've just fucked up coaching hires lately. Mora is better than guys like Dorrell, but he's no Saban. I think Roaddawg probably has it about right. Mora is a good motivator and recruiter, but he was never a great tactician. He really needs to go find some genius, antisocial coordinator like Chimp to get to the top. -
You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else. -
Iron rules?TTJ said:You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else. -
He just lost to a 5-7 team and hasn't made the conference title game since year one despite bringing in better talent, but still.DerekJohnson said:
I don't recall any of his teams going 7-6RoadDawg55 said:Mora leaving could be a good thing for UCLA. He upgraded the talent and expectations (to some degree). He just can't actually coach. His reputation is somehow much greater than what is deserved. He's from a football family and part of the good ol boy network.
The doogs who hate Mora are dumb, but he's an average coach. -
When was the last time UCLA played for something, anything meaningful?
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Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.TTJ said:You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now. -
I looked it up.
UCLA lost to a 5-7 team coached by Mike Riley in the Chicken Bowl -
If that doesn't prove @TTJ's poont I don't know what could.BallSacked said:
Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.TTJ said:You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now. -
I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
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Mike Reilly to Nebraskabananasnblondes said:I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
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Again, for reasons that pass all human understanding, Mike Riley got the HC job in Nebraska after coaching Oregon State back to shittinessbananasnblondes said:I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
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EAT MY 53 SECONDS, DUCK!AZDuck said:
Again, for reasons that pass all human understanding, Mike Riley got the HC job in Nebraska after coaching Oregon State back to shittinessbananasnblondes said:I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
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If it does then it goes for almost the entire conference.dnc said:
If that doesn't prove @TTJ's poont I don't know what could.BallSacked said:
Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.TTJ said:You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now.
He said we have terrible facilities > Wasseman center.
He said we can't give tickets away > we lead the Conf in attendance the past 2 years
He said we don't pay coaches > We lead the Conf in asst salary pool (though SC and Stanford info isn't public).
TTJs argument, like most things here, is stuck in 1991.
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WhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooshBallSacked said:
If it does then it goes for almost the entire conference.dnc said:
If that doesn't prove @TTJ's poont I don't know what could.BallSacked said:
Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.TTJ said:You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now.
He said we have terrible facilities > Wasseman center.
He said we can't give tickets away > we lead the Conf in attendance the past 2 years
He said we don't pay coaches > We lead the Conf in asst salary pool (though SC and Stanford info isn't public).
TTJs argument, like most things here, is stuck in 1991. -
On a day that we're watching #6 Stanford beat the shit out of #5 Iowa, after watching #2 Bama beat the living shit out of #3 Mich State last night, I don't think Nebraska's 5-7 record means a whole lot what's happening in Westwood, nor should it. I think Roady's right about the other points on Mora. Motivator, etc., and whomever said 9-10 wins is tops is about right.
Mora's good, but not one of the greats. He's better than Sark ever was, because his commitment and authenticity showed through to his players, while Sark was transparently phony and mediocre in too many ways. Mora is what Sark wanted to be, but Mora is real whereas Sark was a paper tiger. -
Congratulations. UCLA is now almost* as serious about football as they rest of this unserious league.BallSacked said:
If it does then it goes for almost the entire conference.dnc said:
If that doesn't prove @TTJ's poont I don't know what could.BallSacked said:
Sorry doog it's not 1991 anymore. Most of this is out of date. Wasserman center, Fan attendance, salary pool. Look it up.TTJ said:You vastly overestimate UCLA football. They always have some players. But they lack any of the stuff that makes CFB programs great: Weak facilities, weak tradition, weak fans, weak boosters, weak salaries, weak expectations. They can't give seats away in "their" stadium. Mora is one of about four guys on campus who GAFs whether they win or lose.
I was surprised Mora took that job. But he reached UCLA's ceiling quickly, and I won't be surprised to see him win bigger someplace else.
I think our fans/boosters/ad are committed to football just as much as anyone else in the p12, aside from SC and Oregon, right now.
He said we have terrible facilities > Wasseman center.
He said we can't give tickets away > we lead the Conf in attendance the past 2 years
He said we don't pay coaches > We lead the Conf in asst salary pool (though SC and Stanford info isn't public).
TTJs argument, like most things here, is stuck in 1991.
* Admission standards, anyone? -
But will TTJ be surprised when Riley doesn't win big at Nebraska?dnc said:
Mike Reilly to Nebraskabananasnblondes said:I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
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jeepers?FremontTroll said:
But will TTJ be surprised when Riley doesn't win big at Nebraska?dnc said:
Mike Reilly to Nebraskabananasnblondes said:I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
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A side note to this thread is that I have seen more Iowa fans out and about in the past two days than UCLA fans the past five years. In LA.
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Couldn't even finish ahead of Sark/Helton, I think that about covers it.RoadDawg55 said:
He just lost to a 5-7 team and hasn't made the conference title game since year one despite bringing in better talent, but still.DerekJohnson said:
I don't recall any of his teams going 7-6RoadDawg55 said:Mora leaving could be a good thing for UCLA. He upgraded the talent and expectations (to some degree). He just can't actually coach. His reputation is somehow much greater than what is deserved. He's from a football family and part of the good ol boy network.
The doogs who hate Mora are dumb, but he's an average coach. -
Senor Seven comes to mind.bananasnblondes said:I'm not sure if there are any records of this or if we have any football historians in here who would remember but have there been any examples of pac 12 coaches going 5-4 in conference with 3 plungers in their 4th or 5th year with a team jumping ship for a "better job"? If so, how did they do? Genuinely curious, thanks.
