But how is Groz a total dumbshit?!

I just hate the Groz. I thought he died of a heart attack years ago?

Maybe it was just wishful thinking.

Russell has won a ring and been to 2 Super Bowls. Knowing the laughably terrible history of the franchise that's all the ammo you need for the argument.

dnc said:

I agree with Groz. Russell is easily the best QB Seattle has ever had, but greatness is measured over a career, not over a four year period. With losing Lynch and the way the defense has come back to earth if he wins the Owl this year he'll lock it in, otherwise it will take him a couple more years to get to that spot. It's his before his extension is over rather easily, baring injury.

I was wrong about RW. I thought if He was on a team that required HIM to outscore the opponent, He'd struggle. But since Bevil took off the gloves and decided to chuck it, he's shined.