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Theismann Finalists Announced

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    no_uh said:

    dnc said:

    no_uh said:

    If you gave me any one of these kids as a 'start from scratch' guy, I would pick #mydeshaun. He's the MVP out of these guys, but CM Punk White Bitch had the best year.

    Henry is good, but runs behind a bunch of Goliaths and got a billion carries.

    Henry has a slightly higher YPC than McCaffrey, only 20 more carries than McCaffrey, and 15 more rushing TDs. He also set the SEC rushing record while averaging over 1 YPC more than Herschel Walker on 70 less carries.

    Regardless, all the finalists are actually worthy this year, which is nice. Really no reason to be upset no matter who wins.
    #ReceivingYardsMatter
    You mean #AllPurposeYardsMatter? McCaffrey isn't even in the top 150 for receiving yards.
    Meh, semantics. If you don't discriminate against receiving yards, he had more yards than O Henry. That was the poont.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    edited December 2015
    DeShaun Watson, Clemson
    Here is the thing about McCaffrey: he racked up his yardage totals in blowouts including Colorado, OSU, Cal, a depleted UCLA, and Arizona.

    You might say- of course, everyone puts up more stats in big wins that is why they were big wins.

    But McCaffrey did worse than an average RB in Stanford's key/close games:


    Northwestern
    12 for 66, 5 for 23
    (not a poor game but not much impact due to lack of opportunity.)

    41-31 W @ USC
    26 carries for 115, 3 receptions for 37.

    USC gives up 4.0 yards per rush. Average at best output.

    30-28 W @ WSU
    22 for 107, 4 for 26

    WSU gives up 5.0 ypr. Average at best.

    38-36 L @ Oregon
    33 for 147, 5 for 42

    Oregon gives up 4.9 ypr Average at best.

    38-36 W vs. ND
    27 for 94, 3 for 19

    Notre Dame gives up 4.5 ypr. Very poor.


    Compare that to DeShaun who got better and more efficient as the season went on and carried his team against South and North Carolinas as the defense wore down and the running game fell apart.

    Deshaun led his team to an undefeated season. If McCaffrey had more of an impact against Northwestern or Oregon (or WSU) maybe Stanford would be in the playoffs right now too.

  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    DeShaun Watson, Clemson

    Here is the thing about McCaffrey: he racked up his yardage totals in blowouts including Colorado, OSU, Cal, a depleted UCLA, and Arizona.

    You might say- of course, everyone puts up more stats in big wins that is why they were big wins.

    But McCaffrey did worse than an average RB in Stanford's key/close games:


    Northwestern
    12 for 66, 5 for 23
    (not a poor game but not much impact due to lack of opportunity.)

    41-31 W @ USC
    26 carries for 115, 3 receptions for 37.

    USC gives up 4.0 yards per rush. Average at best output.

    30-28 W @ WSU
    22 for 107, 4 for 26

    WSU gives up 5.0 ypr. Average at best.

    38-36 L @ Oregon
    33 for 147, 5 for 42

    Oregon gives up 4.9 ypr Average at best.

    38-36 W vs. ND
    27 for 94, 3 for 19

    Notre Dame gives up 4.5 ypr. Very poor.


    Compare that to DeShaun who got better and more efficient as the season went on and carried his team against South and North Carolinas as the defense wore down and the running game fell apart.

    Deshaun led his team to an undefeated season. If McCaffrey had more of an impact against Northwestern or Oregon (or WSU) maybe Stanford would be in the playoffs right now too.

    Oh shit!! @FremontTroll is a DeShoog!

    DeShaun is awesome.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford

    Here is the thing about McCaffrey: he racked up his yardage totals in blowouts including Colorado, OSU, Cal, a depleted UCLA, and Arizona.

    You might say- of course, everyone puts up more stats in big wins that is why they were big wins.

    But McCaffrey did worse than an average RB in Stanford's key/close games:


    Northwestern
    12 for 66, 5 for 23
    (not a poor game but not much impact due to lack of opportunity.)

    41-31 W @ USC
    26 carries for 115, 3 receptions for 37.

    USC gives up 4.0 yards per rush. Average at best output.

    30-28 W @ WSU
    22 for 107, 4 for 26

    WSU gives up 5.0 ypr. Average at best.

    38-36 L @ Oregon
    33 for 147, 5 for 42

    Oregon gives up 4.9 ypr Average at best.

    38-36 W vs. ND
    27 for 94, 3 for 19

    Notre Dame gives up 4.5 ypr. Very poor.


    Compare that to DeShaun who got better and more efficient as the season went on and carried his team against South and North Carolinas as the defense wore down and the running game fell apart.

    Deshaun led his team to an undefeated season. If McCaffrey had more of an impact against Northwestern or Oregon (or WSU) maybe Stanford would be in the playoffs right now too.

    Shut up.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,309 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2015
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    Heisman seems to have lost a lot of its luster. I'd never even heard of Henry until October, but Bill went four years between watching more than a quarter of SEC games.

    I used to watch it (the presentation show) really intently. Now I'll probably come across the winner on here or the gay MSN page.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    Lavon Coleman could run for 1000 yards at Bama, just look at the backs that have cycled through there over the years.

    @FremontTroll, did you forget his ass fucking of USC?
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    Because he'll be the first white non-QB since 1973 to win the award. That's progress.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,584 Swaye's Wigwam

    Lavon Coleman could run for 1000 yards at Bama, just look at the backs that have cycled through there over the years.

    @FremontTroll, did you forget his ass fucking of USC?

    This. McCaffrey is a better football player. You're a worthless fuck if you disagree.

    Henry is a good college back and future plodder in the NFL. He's no different that Lacy or Yeldon, except Bama doesn't have a great back up RB like they normally do.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,584 Swaye's Wigwam

    Lavon Coleman could run for 1000 yards at Bama, just look at the backs that have cycled through there over the years.

    @FremontTroll, did you forget his ass fucking of USC?

    This. McCaffrey is a better football player. You're a worthless fuck if you disagree.

    Henry is a good college back and future plodder in the NFL. He's no different that Lacy or Yeldon, except Bama doesn't have a great back up RB like they normally do.