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Theismann Finalists Announced

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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    no_uh said:

    dnc said:

    no_uh said:

    If you gave me any one of these kids as a 'start from scratch' guy, I would pick #mydeshaun. He's the MVP out of these guys, but CM Punk White Bitch had the best year.

    Henry is good, but runs behind a bunch of Goliaths and got a billion carries.

    Henry has a slightly higher YPC than McCaffrey, only 20 more carries than McCaffrey, and 15 more rushing TDs. He also set the SEC rushing record while averaging over 1 YPC more than Herschel Walker on 70 less carries.

    Regardless, all the finalists are actually worthy this year, which is nice. Really no reason to be upset no matter who wins.
    #ReceivingYardsMatter
    You mean #AllPurposeYardsMatter? McCaffrey isn't even in the top 150 for receiving yards.
    Meh, semantics. If you don't discriminate against receiving yards, he had more yards than O Henry. That was the poont.
  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    edited 2015 08
    DeShaun Watson, Clemson
    Here is the thing about McCaffrey: he racked up his yardage totals in blowouts including Colorado, OSU, Cal, a depleted UCLA, and Arizona.

    You might say- of course, everyone puts up more stats in big wins that is why they were big wins.

    But McCaffrey did worse than an average RB in Stanford's key/close games:


    Northwestern
    12 for 66, 5 for 23
    (not a poor game but not much impact due to lack of opportunity.)

    41-31 W @ USC
    26 carries for 115, 3 receptions for 37.

    USC gives up 4.0 yards per rush. Average at best output.

    30-28 W @ WSU
    22 for 107, 4 for 26

    WSU gives up 5.0 ypr. Average at best.

    38-36 L @ Oregon
    33 for 147, 5 for 42

    Oregon gives up 4.9 ypr Average at best.

    38-36 W vs. ND
    27 for 94, 3 for 19

    Notre Dame gives up 4.5 ypr. Very poor.


    Compare that to DeShaun who got better and more efficient as the season went on and carried his team against South and North Carolinas as the defense wore down and the running game fell apart.

    Deshaun led his team to an undefeated season. If McCaffrey had more of an impact against Northwestern or Oregon (or WSU) maybe Stanford would be in the playoffs right now too.

  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    DeShaun Watson, Clemson

    Here is the thing about McCaffrey: he racked up his yardage totals in blowouts including Colorado, OSU, Cal, a depleted UCLA, and Arizona.

    You might say- of course, everyone puts up more stats in big wins that is why they were big wins.

    But McCaffrey did worse than an average RB in Stanford's key/close games:


    Northwestern
    12 for 66, 5 for 23
    (not a poor game but not much impact due to lack of opportunity.)

    41-31 W @ USC
    26 carries for 115, 3 receptions for 37.

    USC gives up 4.0 yards per rush. Average at best output.

    30-28 W @ WSU
    22 for 107, 4 for 26

    WSU gives up 5.0 ypr. Average at best.

    38-36 L @ Oregon
    33 for 147, 5 for 42

    Oregon gives up 4.9 ypr Average at best.

    38-36 W vs. ND
    27 for 94, 3 for 19

    Notre Dame gives up 4.5 ypr. Very poor.


    Compare that to DeShaun who got better and more efficient as the season went on and carried his team against South and North Carolinas as the defense wore down and the running game fell apart.

    Deshaun led his team to an undefeated season. If McCaffrey had more of an impact against Northwestern or Oregon (or WSU) maybe Stanford would be in the playoffs right now too.

    Oh shit!! @FremontTroll is a DeShoog!

    DeShaun is awesome.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford

    Here is the thing about McCaffrey: he racked up his yardage totals in blowouts including Colorado, OSU, Cal, a depleted UCLA, and Arizona.

    You might say- of course, everyone puts up more stats in big wins that is why they were big wins.

    But McCaffrey did worse than an average RB in Stanford's key/close games:


    Northwestern
    12 for 66, 5 for 23
    (not a poor game but not much impact due to lack of opportunity.)

    41-31 W @ USC
    26 carries for 115, 3 receptions for 37.

    USC gives up 4.0 yards per rush. Average at best output.

    30-28 W @ WSU
    22 for 107, 4 for 26

    WSU gives up 5.0 ypr. Average at best.

    38-36 L @ Oregon
    33 for 147, 5 for 42

    Oregon gives up 4.9 ypr Average at best.

    38-36 W vs. ND
    27 for 94, 3 for 19

    Notre Dame gives up 4.5 ypr. Very poor.


    Compare that to DeShaun who got better and more efficient as the season went on and carried his team against South and North Carolinas as the defense wore down and the running game fell apart.

    Deshaun led his team to an undefeated season. If McCaffrey had more of an impact against Northwestern or Oregon (or WSU) maybe Stanford would be in the playoffs right now too.

    Shut up.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,658 Founders Club
    edited 2015 09
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    Heisman seems to have lost a lot of its luster. I'd never even heard of Henry until October, but Bill went four years between watching more than a quarter of SEC games.

    I used to watch it (the presentation show) really intently. Now I'll probably come across the winner on here or the gay MSN page.
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    Lavon Coleman could run for 1000 yards at Bama, just look at the backs that have cycled through there over the years.

    @FremontTroll, did you forget his ass fucking of USC?
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    Because he'll be the first white non-QB since 1973 to win the award. That's progress.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Lavon Coleman could run for 1000 yards at Bama, just look at the backs that have cycled through there over the years.

    @FremontTroll, did you forget his ass fucking of USC?

    This. McCaffrey is a better football player. You're a worthless fuck if you disagree.

    Henry is a good college back and future plodder in the NFL. He's no different that Lacy or Yeldon, except Bama doesn't have a great back up RB like they normally do.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Lavon Coleman could run for 1000 yards at Bama, just look at the backs that have cycled through there over the years.

    @FremontTroll, did you forget his ass fucking of USC?

    This. McCaffrey is a better football player. You're a worthless fuck if you disagree.

    Henry is a good college back and future plodder in the NFL. He's no different that Lacy or Yeldon, except Bama doesn't have a great back up RB like they normally do.
  • HuskyInAZHuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    edited 2015 09
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    I agree. Seems to me to be a 2 horse race, with the Bama RB #3.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,637 Founders Club
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    Mcaffery should win, but It probably won't happen.

    In the age of inflated offensive stats and increased regular season games, nobody touched Barry Sanders' record for almost 30 years. That's damn impressive.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    Doogles said:

    Mcaffery should win, but It probably won't happen.

    In the age of inflated offensive stats and increased regular season games, nobody touched Barry Sanders' record for almost 30 years. That's damn impressive.

    McCaffrey had two more games than Sanders, and plays for a much better team
  • EsophagealFecesEsophagealFeces Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,480 Swaye's Wigwam

    Heisman seems to have lost a lot of its luster. I'd never even heard of Henry until October, but Bill went four years between watching more than a quarter of SEC games.

    I used to watch it (the presentation show) really intently. Now I'll probably come across the winner on here or the gay MSN page.

    No wonder you're fucking clueless.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812
    edited 2015 09
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    AZDuck said:

    Doogles said:

    Mcaffery should win, but It probably won't happen.

    In the age of inflated offensive stats and increased regular season games, nobody touched Barry Sanders' record for almost 30 years. That's damn impressive.

    McCaffrey had two more games than Sanders, and plays for a much better team
    No one's saying he's better than Sanders, just that plenty of people have had more games than Sanders and better teams around them and played at a much higher tempo than Okie State did and still not touched that record. Breaking it is damned impressive, especially at a team that doesn't play hurry up.

    If he was better than Sanders we wouldn't have to argue about the Heisman.
  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    DeShaun Watson, Clemson

    Lavon Coleman could run for 1000 yards at Bama, just look at the backs that have cycled through there over the years.

    @FremontTroll, did you forget his ass fucking of USC?

    This. McCaffrey is a better football player. You're a worthless fuck if you disagree.

    Henry is a good college back and future plodder in the NFL. He's no different that Lacy or Yeldon, except Bama doesn't have a great back up RB like they normally do.
    We all agree Henry is a standard Bama RB, nothing special. Who is talking about Henry?
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,584 Founders Club
    DeShaun Watson, Clemson
    Probably McCaffrey, but I can't bring myself to vote for a white devil. After loading Watson and Henry on a flatbed, I chose Watson. Better teeth.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,326 Founders Club
    Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
    no_uh said:

    dnc said:

    no_uh said:

    If you gave me any one of these kids as a 'start from scratch' guy, I would pick #mydeshaun. He's the MVP out of these guys, but CM Punk White Bitch had the best year.

    Henry is good, but runs behind a bunch of Goliaths and got a billion carries.

    Henry has a slightly higher YPC than McCaffrey, only 20 more carries than McCaffrey, and 15 more rushing TDs. He also set the SEC rushing record while averaging over 1 YPC more than Herschel Walker on 70 less carries.

    Regardless, all the finalists are actually worthy this year, which is nice. Really no reason to be upset no matter who wins.
    #ReceivingYardsMatter
    You mean #AllPurposeYardsMatter? McCaffrey isn't even in the top 150 for receiving yards.
    He's a more complete player than Henry, but both are good choices. Henry looks like he will be the better NFL back when all is said and done.
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