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Choate Gone
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I think unfortunately babushka saved his job, unless we see a turd in the bowl game.
Something seems different between a CP apprentice in JS, vs a retread in Pease. But I'll be happy if it happens.
I'm more picky about the WR hire, it better be a massive upgrade to show that CP had a plan and can get us to that next level and a solid position coach bought in. I don't think we can have any more OJT, we need to win now. -
Why would a DL coach not take his one legitimate opportunity to be a head coach? Choate is a journeyman. Being a head coach is a big deal, even at Montana State.Passion said:Bad news. Don't really understand Chaote's thinking, but whatever.
Hire a good replacement Perersen.
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This. Equate it to normal life terms. If I am a Director or Senior Manager at a huge company (Lockheed, Ford, whatever), and a small to midsize company (1000 employees or so) offers me an Executive Vice President job, even at near the same salary, I take it. Greater sphere of influence and span of control, plus, I now have EVP on a resume and if I do well I can get an EVP job with a bigger company in a couple years. If I just stay with the mega company in middle management I will probably toil away at that forever (most do). You take the break when you get it.RoadDawg55 said:
Why would a DL coach not take his one legitimate opportunity to be a head coach? Choate is a journeyman. Being a head coach is a big deal, even at Montana State.Passion said:Bad news. Don't really understand Chaote's thinking, but whatever.
Hire a good replacement Perersen. -
Swaye said:
This. Equate it to normal life terms. If I am a shift manager at Jiffy Lube, and a smaller company offers me my own shop, even at near the same salary, I take it. Greater sphere of influence and span of control, plus, I now have shop manager on my resume and if I do well I can get an shift manager job with a bigger company in a couple years. If I just stay with Jiffy Lube in shift management I will probably toil away at that forever (most do). You take the break when you get it.RoadDawg55 said:
Why would a DL coach not take his one legitimate opportunity to be a head coach? Choate is a journeyman. Being a head coach is a big deal, even at Montana State.Passion said:Bad news. Don't really understand Chaote's thinking, but whatever.
Hire a good replacement Perersen. -
This.Swaye said:
This. Equate it to normal life terms. If I am a Director or Senior Manager at a huge company (Lockheed, Ford, whatever), and a small to midsize company (1000 employees or so) offers me an Executive Vice President job, even at near the same salary, I take it. Greater sphere of influence and span of control, plus, I now have EVP on a resume and if I do well I can get an EVP job with a bigger company in a couple years. If I just stay with the mega company in middle management I will probably toil away at that forever (most do). You take the break when you get it.RoadDawg55 said:
Why would a DL coach not take his one legitimate opportunity to be a head coach? Choate is a journeyman. Being a head coach is a big deal, even at Montana State.Passion said:Bad news. Don't really understand Chaote's thinking, but whatever.
Hire a good replacement Perersen.
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am I the only one who doesn't even know what Bud Heavy means?Tequilla said:
Poast more on Bud Heavy's ...MikeMonan said:Coach Choate is a great DLine coach and has done a great job in his short time.
I agree with @LoneStarDawg on who gets hired to replace the Purseswinger Coach and Choate...
I don't normally drink Bud Heavy's ... but I'll drink one with you next week -
I tried to make it about people who might see some success in life, unlike me.dnc said:Swaye said:
This. Equate it to normal life terms. If I am a shift manager at Jiffy Lube, and a smaller company offers me my own shop, even at near the same salary, I take it. Greater sphere of influence and span of control, plus, I now have shop manager on my resume and if I do well I can get an shift manager job with a bigger company in a couple years. If I just stay with Jiffy Lube in shift management I will probably toil away at that forever (most do). You take the break when you get it.RoadDawg55 said:
Why would a DL coach not take his one legitimate opportunity to be a head coach? Choate is a journeyman. Being a head coach is a big deal, even at Montana State.Passion said:Bad news. Don't really understand Chaote's thinking, but whatever.
Hire a good replacement Perersen. -
Yes.Meek said:
am I the only one who doesn't even know what Bud Heavy means?Tequilla said:
Poast more on Bud Heavy's ...MikeMonan said:Coach Choate is a great DLine coach and has done a great job in his short time.
I agree with @LoneStarDawg on who gets hired to replace the Purseswinger Coach and Choate...
I don't normally drink Bud Heavy's ... but I'll drink one with you next week -
Sounds like you are on the outside looking in.....MisterEm said:
Yes.Meek said:
am I the only one who doesn't even know what Bud Heavy means?Tequilla said:
Poast more on Bud Heavy's ...MikeMonan said:Coach Choate is a great DLine coach and has done a great job in his short time.
I agree with @LoneStarDawg on who gets hired to replace the Purseswinger Coach and Choate...
I don't normally drink Bud Heavy's ... but I'll drink one with you next week -
The opposite of Bud Light....
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Pease is a position coach. I didn't know that Pease created this offense, called the plays, decided when to go for it on 4th down, Lindy package, says faggy shit about the best way to attack a defense, and is 8-10 in Pac 12 play.Tequilla said:
First, we don't know that the changes are over. Relieving a position coach of his duty with a bowl game to go is way different than a coordinator. A position coach is normally one of your recruiting soldiers. Your coordinator is tied to game planning. Pete has already stated that his expectation is winning the bowl game. Firing a coordinator heading into a bowl game isn't inline with the plan of winning the bowl game.LoneStarDawg said:These next two hires should be closely watched, they will be very telling about who petersen is
Losing Choate is less than ideal, but is mitigated by Coach K being a DL guy himself. He'll continue to have a heavy interest in the position and I'm sure will properly vet the hire. I'm probably less worried about this than most.
Firing Pease can't be anything but a positive to me as a program. Many on this board that have more than half a brain have singled out the WR grouping and play calling as major issues in the program. With the direction of these groups, those that don't have patience and allowing the process to play out have singled out Petersen as not being wise to what was going on. Firing Pease tells you that Petersen is on the ball. He sees that the WR grouping isn't progressing at the level that we expect it to progress ... particularly when compared to the defensive side of the ball or even the growth of the OL on the offensive side.
If I was Babushka, I wouldn't be feeling very good about my prospects going forward.
Pete's showing that he's willing to allow underperformers the opportunity to grab the rope and hang themselves, sink or swim, or whatever the fuck your favorite analogy is. IF the firing of Pease isn't making your sweatpants bulge at the prospects of Pete being the guy that we thought he was, then you need to immediately go take a long walk near the water and flush the baggage of the past 15 years because it has nothing to do with what we are seeing going forward. If anything, the firing of Pease should make you more bullish on the long-term prospects of this program.
THIS is a good day for the program IMO -
Get Randy Hart back. Sark was a fucktard for firing him -- even though he was probably trying to clean house of all of the Ty leftovers -- but Hart was never a Ty guy -- he is just a mother fucking touch coach -- which he has been proving at Furd.
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#myjoe aint goin anywhere.PurpleThrobber said:Piss the Cuogs off and go after Salavea.
At least not until USC come callin. -
I think Paul Wulff may have more than a little to do with that.Doogles said:
Maybe. It's a close call though. He'll always have a big boy job as a DL/special teams coach if he flames out, but it might be quicker to get the DC gig somewhere big time, do well for a few years and then be in the conversation for some bigger school head jobs.dnc said:
FCS HC > FBS position coach, IMOPassion said:Bad news. Don't really understand Chaote's thinking, but whatever.
Hire a good replacement Perersen.
Beau Baldwin has been a successful FCS coach for a long time and nobody is knocking down his door. Maybe a San Jose State takes a chance. Pay is probably pretty similar between the gigs too. -
You read all the way to the bottom?RoadDawg55 said:
Pease is a position coach. I didn't know that Pease created this offense, called the plays, decided when to go for it on 4th down, Lindy package, says faggy shit about the best way to attack a defense, and is 8-10 in Pac 12 play.Tequilla said:
First, we don't know that the changes are over. Relieving a position coach of his duty with a bowl game to go is way different than a coordinator. A position coach is normally one of your recruiting soldiers. Your coordinator is tied to game planning. Pete has already stated that his expectation is winning the bowl game. Firing a coordinator heading into a bowl game isn't inline with the plan of winning the bowl game.LoneStarDawg said:These next two hires should be closely watched, they will be very telling about who petersen is
Losing Choate is less than ideal, but is mitigated by Coach K being a DL guy himself. He'll continue to have a heavy interest in the position and I'm sure will properly vet the hire. I'm probably less worried about this than most.
Firing Pease can't be anything but a positive to me as a program. Many on this board that have more than half a brain have singled out the WR grouping and play calling as major issues in the program. With the direction of these groups, those that don't have patience and allowing the process to play out have singled out Petersen as not being wise to what was going on. Firing Pease tells you that Petersen is on the ball. He sees that the WR grouping isn't progressing at the level that we expect it to progress ... particularly when compared to the defensive side of the ball or even the growth of the OL on the offensive side.
If I was Babushka, I wouldn't be feeling very good about my prospects going forward.
Pete's showing that he's willing to allow underperformers the opportunity to grab the rope and hang themselves, sink or swim, or whatever the fuck your favorite analogy is. IF the firing of Pease isn't making your sweatpants bulge at the prospects of Pete being the guy that we thought he was, then you need to immediately go take a long walk near the water and flush the baggage of the past 15 years because it has nothing to do with what we are seeing going forward. If anything, the firing of Pease should make you more bullish on the long-term prospects of this program.
THIS is a good day for the program IMO
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Unfortunately.gabemarksknee said:
You read all the way to the bottom?RoadDawg55 said:
Pease is a position coach. I didn't know that Pease created this offense, called the plays, decided when to go for it on 4th down, Lindy package, says faggy shit about the best way to attack a defense, and is 8-10 in Pac 12 play.Tequilla said:
First, we don't know that the changes are over. Relieving a position coach of his duty with a bowl game to go is way different than a coordinator. A position coach is normally one of your recruiting soldiers. Your coordinator is tied to game planning. Pete has already stated that his expectation is winning the bowl game. Firing a coordinator heading into a bowl game isn't inline with the plan of winning the bowl game.LoneStarDawg said:These next two hires should be closely watched, they will be very telling about who petersen is
Losing Choate is less than ideal, but is mitigated by Coach K being a DL guy himself. He'll continue to have a heavy interest in the position and I'm sure will properly vet the hire. I'm probably less worried about this than most.
Firing Pease can't be anything but a positive to me as a program. Many on this board that have more than half a brain have singled out the WR grouping and play calling as major issues in the program. With the direction of these groups, those that don't have patience and allowing the process to play out have singled out Petersen as not being wise to what was going on. Firing Pease tells you that Petersen is on the ball. He sees that the WR grouping isn't progressing at the level that we expect it to progress ... particularly when compared to the defensive side of the ball or even the growth of the OL on the offensive side.
If I was Babushka, I wouldn't be feeling very good about my prospects going forward.
Pete's showing that he's willing to allow underperformers the opportunity to grab the rope and hang themselves, sink or swim, or whatever the fuck your favorite analogy is. IF the firing of Pease isn't making your sweatpants bulge at the prospects of Pete being the guy that we thought he was, then you need to immediately go take a long walk near the water and flush the baggage of the past 15 years because it has nothing to do with what we are seeing going forward. If anything, the firing of Pease should make you more bullish on the long-term prospects of this program.
THIS is a good day for the program IMO
