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What the numbers on guns really say
topdawgnc
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Someone doesn't know basic math.
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You?
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Guns aren't the problem. And yes violence actually goes down every year
Sounds like religion and mental illness contribute more to the issue. Single parent families too? Media?
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Canada loves guns and hunting. They don't kill each other at the rate we do. Liberal fuckwad michael Moore's documentary told me that 15 years ago
The shooter today in San Bernardini was US born. I am FOR the Syrian refugees. APAG's brilliant poast the other day sealed it for me. -
Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
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it is pretty disgusting. Gang violence is a serious issue that no one actually cares about. And yes that includes Republicans and democrats, all of whom skate over the issue because they are scared to talk about raceThomasFremont said:Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
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I agree with Stossel most all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682JLrsUmEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPt0bzcwP20
Place with gun rights:
No guns:
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"...the National Academy of Science reviewed hundreds of gun control regulations and could not find one that reduced violent crime or murder."
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But it reduces gun violence and murder. Didn't you know that it's better to be beat to death with a baseball bat than shot through the skull?sarktastic said:"...the National Academy of Science reviewed hundreds of gun control regulations and could not find one that reduced violent crime or murder."
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We as a country just sustained, as promised by the enemy who has declared war against the United States, a Jihad attack.
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I would say gang violence isn't as much race as it's socio economic. Gangs in bigger cities are populated by a poor economic segment, which the majority are minorities. Poor white people are in gangs as well. Basically, middle class black, hispanic, european, and asian kids aren't in gangs, just like middle class whites generally aren't either.dhdawg said:
it is pretty disgusting. Gang violence is a serious issue that no one actually cares about. And yes that includes Republicans and democrats, all of whom skate over the issue because they are scared to talk about raceThomasFremont said:Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
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It is a poverty issue. And far more blacks live in poverty than whites, but that doesn't change the fact that they murder at a far greater rategreenblood said:
I would say gang violence isn't as much race as it's socio economic. Gangs in bigger cities are populated by a poor economic segment, which the majority are minorities. Poor white people are in gangs as well. Basically, middle class black, hispanic, european, and asian kids aren't in gangs, just like middle class whites generally aren't either.dhdawg said:
it is pretty disgusting. Gang violence is a serious issue that no one actually cares about. And yes that includes Republicans and democrats, all of whom skate over the issue because they are scared to talk about raceThomasFremont said:Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
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ThomasFremont said:
Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
It is pretty poor taste to wantonly exaggerate thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda. -
The greatest generation grew up in poverty and the only people they shot were Germans and Japanese, not each other.dhdawg said:
It is a poverty issue. And far more blacks live in poverty than whites, but that doesn't change the fact that they murder at a far greater rategreenblood said:
I would say gang violence isn't as much race as it's socio economic. Gangs in bigger cities are populated by a poor economic segment, which the majority are minorities. Poor white people are in gangs as well. Basically, middle class black, hispanic, european, and asian kids aren't in gangs, just like middle class whites generally aren't either.dhdawg said:
it is pretty disgusting. Gang violence is a serious issue that no one actually cares about. And yes that includes Republicans and democrats, all of whom skate over the issue because they are scared to talk about raceThomasFremont said:Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
So fuck that argument about poverty.
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Have we rounded up all the muslims yet?
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The murder rate peaked in the early 90s because of the crack epidemic, which is inextricable from poverty. The murder rate last year was lower than in 1968 at about 14,250. Considering that America is much more diverse now then in the late 60s can you really try to claim that the murder rate is tied in any way to non-whites being more likely to kill?PurpleThrobber said:
The greatest generation grew up in poverty and the only people they showere Germans and Japanese, not each other.dhdawg said:
It is a poverty issue. And far more blacks live in poverty than whites, but that doesn't change the fact that they murder at a far greater rategreenblood said:
I would say gang violence isn't as much race as it's socio economic. Gangs in bigger cities are populated by a poor economic segment, which the majority are minorities. Poor white people are in gangs as well. Basically, middle class black, hispanic, european, and asian kids aren't in gangs, just like middle class whites generally aren't either.dhdawg said:
it is pretty disgusting. Gang violence is a serious issue that no one actually cares about. And yes that includes Republicans and democrats, all of whom skate over the issue because they are scared to talk about raceThomasFremont said:Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
So fuck that argument about poverty. -
The homicide rate per 100k in 1950 was 5.1, the rate in 2013 was 5.2.
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But don't we have a meth epidemic going on now?doogsinparadise said:
The murder rate peaked in the early 90s because of the crack epidemic, which is inextricable from poverty. The murder rate last year was lower than in 1968 at about 14,250. Considering that America is much more diverse now then in the late 60s can you really try to claim that the murder rate is tied in any way to non-whites being more likely to kill?PurpleThrobber said:
The greatest generation grew up in poverty and the only people they showere Germans and Japanese, not each other.dhdawg said:
It is a poverty issue. And far more blacks live in poverty than whites, but that doesn't change the fact that they murder at a far greater rategreenblood said:
I would say gang violence isn't as much race as it's socio economic. Gangs in bigger cities are populated by a poor economic segment, which the majority are minorities. Poor white people are in gangs as well. Basically, middle class black, hispanic, european, and asian kids aren't in gangs, just like middle class whites generally aren't either.dhdawg said:
it is pretty disgusting. Gang violence is a serious issue that no one actually cares about. And yes that includes Republicans and democrats, all of whom skate over the issue because they are scared to talk about raceThomasFremont said:Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
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.1 lives matter.doogsinparadise said:The homicide rate per 100k in 1950 was 5.1, the rate in 2013 was 5.2.
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Yes.doogsinparadise said:
The murder rate peaked in the early 90s because of the crack epidemic, which is inextricable from poverty. The murder rate last year was lower than in 1968 at about 14,250. Considering that America is much more diverse now then in the late 60s can you really try to claim that the murder rate is tied in any way to non-whites being more likely to kill?PurpleThrobber said:
The greatest generation grew up in poverty and the only people they showere Germans and Japanese, not each other.dhdawg said:
It is a poverty issue. And far more blacks live in poverty than whites, but that doesn't change the fact that they murder at a far greater rategreenblood said:
I would say gang violence isn't as much race as it's socio economic. Gangs in bigger cities are populated by a poor economic segment, which the majority are minorities. Poor white people are in gangs as well. Basically, middle class black, hispanic, european, and asian kids aren't in gangs, just like middle class whites generally aren't either.dhdawg said:
it is pretty disgusting. Gang violence is a serious issue that no one actually cares about. And yes that includes Republicans and democrats, all of whom skate over the issue because they are scared to talk about raceThomasFremont said:Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
So fuck that argument about poverty.
As noted above The Color of Crime stated a seven times higher homicide rate for Blacks. The CDC (Center for Disease Control) has stated a 8.5 times higher Black homicide rate than White homicide rate for the year 2007. For males it was 13 times higher, for 20 to 24-year-old males it was 17 times higher, and for 15 to 19-year-old males it was over 20 times higher.[7]
According to FBI statistics, in 2013 the number of Black-on-White homicides (409) was more than double the number of "White"-on-Black homicides (189) despite Blacks only being 13% of the population.[7]
The Council of Conservative Citizens in 2014 documented about 400 cases of Black-on-White murders. Unlike the above mentioned FBI statistics for 2013, very few cases of White-on-Black murders could be found (4 cases). One explanation was that many "White"-on-Black murders were actually done by Hispanics who are classified as Whites in the FBI statistics. Blacks from Spanish speaking countries were also argued to be incorrectly classified as "White" offenders in the official crime data. The official "White" offenders also included North Africans, Arabs, Turks, Persians, and people from central Asian countries. Furthermore, it was also argued that the number of Black-on-White murders was likely significantly higher if taking into account murders with unknown perpetrators which may often disproportionately involve random stranger killings by Blacks. Also, anti-White bias was argued to cause many Blacks perpetrators to be charged with lesser crimes than similar White perpetrators.[8][9]
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Doesn't your table prove Obama was lying again?
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yes.........? are you confused about my point?sarktastic said:Doesn't your table prove Obama was lying again?
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I said no racist crap.doogsinparadise said:
The murder rate peaked in the early 90s because of the crack epidemic, which is inextricable from poverty. The murder rate last year was lower than in 1968 at about 14,250. Considering that America is much more diverse now then in the late 60s can you really try to claim that the murder rate is tied in any way to non-whites being more likely to kill?PurpleThrobber said:
The greatest generation grew up in poverty and the only people they showere Germans and Japanese, not each other.dhdawg said:
It is a poverty issue. And far more blacks live in poverty than whites, but that doesn't change the fact that they murder at a far greater rategreenblood said:
I would say gang violence isn't as much race as it's socio economic. Gangs in bigger cities are populated by a poor economic segment, which the majority are minorities. Poor white people are in gangs as well. Basically, middle class black, hispanic, european, and asian kids aren't in gangs, just like middle class whites generally aren't either.dhdawg said:
it is pretty disgusting. Gang violence is a serious issue that no one actually cares about. And yes that includes Republicans and democrats, all of whom skate over the issue because they are scared to talk about raceThomasFremont said:Regardless of your stance on the issue, pretty poor taste to wantonly dismiss thousands of gun deaths to fit an agenda.
So fuck that argument about poverty.
I said poverty is no excuse for shooting people. You extrapolated that poverty Is solely a black problem ergo poverty makes blacks killers.
Go back and read exactly what I wrote again.
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Since the latest Islamic Jihad attack in a gun free zone on US soil, Obama has been stating thus doesn't happen anywhere else yet, your chart clearly shows Finland, Isreal and Switzerland all have more than double the fatal rampage incidents per capitaHouhusky said:
yes.........? are you confused about my point?sarktastic said:Doesn't your table prove Obama was lying again?
