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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    MisterEm said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Gladstone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Should have retired YEARS ago.

    Retire or sign 2y/50M deal. But how is PurpleJ a shit poster?

    Not sure what Lakers should have done but spending over the cap to field those 2 teams owing their 1st to the Sixers is a brutal situation.
    My pride is worth more than that if I'm Kobe.
    Pride is worth more than generational money?

    Did you go to the @collegdoog school of hard knocks?
    There's always money in coaching/broadcasting. No one likes to be THAT guy who plays too long and embarrasses himself in the process.
    Hi there.

    Baring career ending injuries, virtually EVERYBODY plays too long and embarrasses themselves in the process. You don't become an elite athlete by having great self awareness, you become an elite athlete by combining elite talent with with elite belief in yourself.

    The Barry Sanders' and John Elways of the world are very rare. MJ, Kareem, Peyton, Montana, Favruh, etc all hung around embarrassingly long. None of their legacies are tainted because of it. Kobe's won't be either.
    Everybody does it? Hi Hondo!
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Both sad news and happy. Like it's time.

    The Kobe haters coming out has me feeling nostalgic.

    He had an ok game tonight. He'll continue to put up stinkers. But at some point he'll have a big game and that'll be how I'll remember the last season.

    Kobe gave everyone what they wanted. The best Michael Jordan impersonation possible. And he's a top 10 player of all time. RIP.

    I love Kobe but I'm not sure he's top 10 of all time. I'd probably put him top 12. But no question he's one of the greats.

    What's your top 10 look like? I'd go something like

    Jordan
    Russell
    Magic
    Kareem
    Bird
    Wilt
    Bron
    Duncan
    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Oscar
    Kobe

    But he's definitely in that 8-15 range. Once you get past Duncan you can argue it quite a few different ways.
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    dnc said:

    Both sad news and happy. Like it's time.

    The Kobe haters coming out has me feeling nostalgic.

    He had an ok game tonight. He'll continue to put up stinkers. But at some point he'll have a big game and that'll be how I'll remember the last season.

    Kobe gave everyone what they wanted. The best Michael Jordan impersonation possible. And he's a top 10 player of all time. RIP.

    What's your top 10 look like? I'd go something like

    Jordan
    Russell
    Magic
    Kareem
    Bird
    Wilt
    Bron
    Duncan
    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Oscar
    Kobe
    Obviously a math major
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,050 Founders Club
    Somewhat chronological

    Bill Russell
    Wilt Chamberlain
    Jerry West
    Rick Barry
    Julius Erving
    Magic Johnson
    Kareem
    Hakeem
    Michael Jordan
    Lebron James

    In the immortal words of Isiah Thomas, who a Husky player was named after if you haven't heard, if Larry was white he'd be just another guy
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,050 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    edited December 2015

    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
    these lists are always hard just based on how old you are. It's very difficult to have an appreciation for how good some players were as well as a perspective of the era the player was in.

    I wish I had the time or the footage to go back and really appreciate some of the players in the 60's and 70's. Stats just don't do many players justice when discussing career dominance.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,050 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
    these lists are always hard just based on how old you are. It's very difficult to have an appreciation for how good some players were as well as a perspective of the era the player was in.

    I wish I had the time or the footage to go back and really appreciate some of the players in the 60's and 70's. Stats just don't do many players justice when discussing career dominance.
    I can tell you that the Rick Barry Warriors were as fun to watch as the Warriors today. Barry was a great passer and shooter and it was contagious not unlike Curry today. When the Sonics were first making the playoffs they would run into the Warriors and Barry so I got to see them a lot.

    If Walton had stayed healthy you'd have to find a place for him. The Blazers championship team was also great. Too bad nobody was watching in the 70's.

    There are really two eras, pre and post Magic and Larry
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223

    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
    these lists are always hard just based on how old you are. It's very difficult to have an appreciation for how good some players were as well as a perspective of the era the player was in.

    I wish I had the time or the footage to go back and really appreciate some of the players in the 60's and 70's. Stats just don't do many players justice when discussing career dominance.
    I can tell you that the Rick Barry Warriors were as fun to watch as the Warriors today. Barry was a great passer and shooter and it was contagious not unlike Curry today. When the Sonics were first making the playoffs they would run into the Warriors and Barry so I got to see them a lot.

    If Walton had stayed healthy you'd have to find a place for him. The Blazers championship team was also great. Too bad nobody was watching sober in the 70's.

    There are really two eras, pre and post Magic and Larry
    Well, maybe not too bad...
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
    these lists are always hard just based on how old you are. It's very difficult to have an appreciation for how good some players were as well as a perspective of the era the player was in.

    I wish I had the time or the footage to go back and really appreciate some of the players in the 60's and 70's. Stats just don't do many players justice when discussing career dominance.
    I can tell you that the Rick Barry Warriors were as fun to watch as the Warriors today. Barry was a great passer and shooter and it was contagious not unlike Curry today. When the Sonics were first making the playoffs they would run into the Warriors and Barry so I got to see them a lot.

    If Walton had stayed healthy you'd have to find a place for him. The Blazers championship team was also great. Too bad nobody was watching in the 70's.

    There are really two eras, pre and post Magic and Larry
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