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Kobe retiring

Gladstone
Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
I think that Warriors game was the deathknell for Kobe. He obviously wanted to put on a show and play old Kobe ball but he ended up embarrassing himself going 1-17.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    I'm glad that he has announced it and instead can let people celebrate what he has done versus what he is at present.

    I hope that the Lakers are able to manage his minutes, etc. in a way that lets him be able to play a relatively full schedule and get the proper respect along the way.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Should have retired YEARS ago.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    PurpleJ said:

    Should have retired YEARS ago.

    Retire or sign 2y/50M deal. But how is PurpleJ a shit poster?

    Not sure what Lakers should have done but spending over the cap to field those 2 teams owing their 1st to the Sixers is a brutal situation.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,056 Founders Club
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Gladstone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Should have retired YEARS ago.

    Retire or sign 2y/50M deal. But how is PurpleJ a shit poster?

    Not sure what Lakers should have done but spending over the cap to field those 2 teams owing their 1st to the Sixers is a brutal situation.
    My pride is worth more than that if I'm Kobe.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    PurpleJ said:

    Gladstone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Should have retired YEARS ago.

    Retire or sign 2y/50M deal. But how is PurpleJ a shit poster?

    Not sure what Lakers should have done but spending over the cap to field those 2 teams owing their 1st to the Sixers is a brutal situation.
    My pride is worth more than that if I'm Kobe.
    Pride is worth more than generational money?

    Did you go to the @collegdoog school of hard knocks?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    MisterEm said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Gladstone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Should have retired YEARS ago.

    Retire or sign 2y/50M deal. But how is PurpleJ a shit poster?

    Not sure what Lakers should have done but spending over the cap to field those 2 teams owing their 1st to the Sixers is a brutal situation.
    My pride is worth more than that if I'm Kobe.
    Pride is worth more than generational money?

    Did you go to the @collegdoog school of hard knocks?
    There's always money in coaching/broadcasting. No one likes to be THAT guy who plays too long and embarrasses himself in the process.
  • SonnyShackelford
    SonnyShackelford Member Posts: 1,005
    Not even fucking Jim Nantz is making that much money in his career
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,656 Standard Supporter
    Frees up more time for raping
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,470 Founders Club

    Frees up more time for raping

    IIRC, the Kobe/Colorado story was the genesis of "the first 6 inches are consensual" ...

    too bad boobs took his ball and went home, I'm almost certain, he dropped that bomb first ..
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    PurpleJ said:

    MisterEm said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Gladstone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Should have retired YEARS ago.

    Retire or sign 2y/50M deal. But how is PurpleJ a shit poster?

    Not sure what Lakers should have done but spending over the cap to field those 2 teams owing their 1st to the Sixers is a brutal situation.
    My pride is worth more than that if I'm Kobe.
    Pride is worth more than generational money?

    Did you go to the @collegdoog school of hard knocks?
    There's always money in coaching/broadcasting. No one likes to be THAT guy who plays too long and embarrasses himself in the process.
    Hi there.

    Baring career ending injuries, virtually EVERYBODY plays too long and embarrasses themselves in the process. You don't become an elite athlete by having great self awareness, you become an elite athlete by combining elite talent with with elite belief in yourself.

    The Barry Sanders' and John Elways of the world are very rare. MJ, Kareem, Peyton, Montana, Favruh, etc all hung around embarrassingly long. None of their legacies are tainted because of it. Kobe's won't be either.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,056 Founders Club
    Kareem won a title his last season
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Magic won Kareem a title his last season

    True, but he was still a shell of his former self.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,056 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Magic won Kareem a title his last season

    True, but he was still a shell of his former self.
    True but Magic never won one without him
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    Magic won Kareem a title his last season

    True, but he was still a shell of his former self.
    True but Magic never won one without him
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  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    PurpleJ said:

    MisterEm said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Gladstone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Should have retired YEARS ago.

    Retire or sign 2y/50M deal. But how is PurpleJ a shit poster?

    Not sure what Lakers should have done but spending over the cap to field those 2 teams owing their 1st to the Sixers is a brutal situation.
    My pride is worth more than that if I'm Kobe.
    Pride is worth more than generational money?

    Did you go to the @collegdoog school of hard knocks?
    There's always money in coaching/broadcasting. No one likes to be THAT guy who plays too long and embarrasses himself in the process.
    50 million for 2 years or at most probably 1-2 million a year broadcasting? I highly doubt he'd even get that right out of the gate. If he turns into barkley or something entertaining then he could get a huge contract, but they aren't going to just write him a check for being kobe and none of it will even sniff his nba salary.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    dnc said:

    Magic won Kareem a title his last season

    True, but he was still a shell of his former self.
    True but Magic never won one without him
    Like Lebron has never won one without Wade or Bosh.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Both sad news and happy. Like it's time.

    The Kobe haters coming out has me feeling nostalgic.

    He had an ok game tonight. He'll continue to put up stinkers. But at some point he'll have a big game and that'll be how I'll remember the last season.

    Kobe gave everyone what they wanted. The best Michael Jordan impersonation possible. And he's a top 10 player of all time. RIP.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Kobe is my favorite player ever. It's been tough watching the past few years and glad it's finally coming to an end. It's like putting a dog down. You know it's coming because of how bad it has gotten but it sucks nonetheless.

    I was in New York City (high school retreat) when he dropped 81. That feat will never happen again in this age.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    PurpleJ said:

    MisterEm said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Gladstone said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Should have retired YEARS ago.

    Retire or sign 2y/50M deal. But how is PurpleJ a shit poster?

    Not sure what Lakers should have done but spending over the cap to field those 2 teams owing their 1st to the Sixers is a brutal situation.
    My pride is worth more than that if I'm Kobe.
    Pride is worth more than generational money?

    Did you go to the @collegdoog school of hard knocks?
    There's always money in coaching/broadcasting. No one likes to be THAT guy who plays too long and embarrasses himself in the process.
    Hi there.

    Baring career ending injuries, virtually EVERYBODY plays too long and embarrasses themselves in the process. You don't become an elite athlete by having great self awareness, you become an elite athlete by combining elite talent with with elite belief in yourself.

    The Barry Sanders' and John Elways of the world are very rare. MJ, Kareem, Peyton, Montana, Favruh, etc all hung around embarrassingly long. None of their legacies are tainted because of it. Kobe's won't be either.
    Everybody does it? Hi Hondo!
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Both sad news and happy. Like it's time.

    The Kobe haters coming out has me feeling nostalgic.

    He had an ok game tonight. He'll continue to put up stinkers. But at some point he'll have a big game and that'll be how I'll remember the last season.

    Kobe gave everyone what they wanted. The best Michael Jordan impersonation possible. And he's a top 10 player of all time. RIP.

    I love Kobe but I'm not sure he's top 10 of all time. I'd probably put him top 12. But no question he's one of the greats.

    What's your top 10 look like? I'd go something like

    Jordan
    Russell
    Magic
    Kareem
    Bird
    Wilt
    Bron
    Duncan
    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Oscar
    Kobe

    But he's definitely in that 8-15 range. Once you get past Duncan you can argue it quite a few different ways.
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    dnc said:

    Both sad news and happy. Like it's time.

    The Kobe haters coming out has me feeling nostalgic.

    He had an ok game tonight. He'll continue to put up stinkers. But at some point he'll have a big game and that'll be how I'll remember the last season.

    Kobe gave everyone what they wanted. The best Michael Jordan impersonation possible. And he's a top 10 player of all time. RIP.

    What's your top 10 look like? I'd go something like

    Jordan
    Russell
    Magic
    Kareem
    Bird
    Wilt
    Bron
    Duncan
    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Oscar
    Kobe
    Obviously a math major
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,056 Founders Club
    Somewhat chronological

    Bill Russell
    Wilt Chamberlain
    Jerry West
    Rick Barry
    Julius Erving
    Magic Johnson
    Kareem
    Hakeem
    Michael Jordan
    Lebron James

    In the immortal words of Isiah Thomas, who a Husky player was named after if you haven't heard, if Larry was white he'd be just another guy
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,056 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    edited December 2015

    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
    these lists are always hard just based on how old you are. It's very difficult to have an appreciation for how good some players were as well as a perspective of the era the player was in.

    I wish I had the time or the footage to go back and really appreciate some of the players in the 60's and 70's. Stats just don't do many players justice when discussing career dominance.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,056 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
    these lists are always hard just based on how old you are. It's very difficult to have an appreciation for how good some players were as well as a perspective of the era the player was in.

    I wish I had the time or the footage to go back and really appreciate some of the players in the 60's and 70's. Stats just don't do many players justice when discussing career dominance.
    I can tell you that the Rick Barry Warriors were as fun to watch as the Warriors today. Barry was a great passer and shooter and it was contagious not unlike Curry today. When the Sonics were first making the playoffs they would run into the Warriors and Barry so I got to see them a lot.

    If Walton had stayed healthy you'd have to find a place for him. The Blazers championship team was also great. Too bad nobody was watching in the 70's.

    There are really two eras, pre and post Magic and Larry
  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223

    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
    these lists are always hard just based on how old you are. It's very difficult to have an appreciation for how good some players were as well as a perspective of the era the player was in.

    I wish I had the time or the footage to go back and really appreciate some of the players in the 60's and 70's. Stats just don't do many players justice when discussing career dominance.
    I can tell you that the Rick Barry Warriors were as fun to watch as the Warriors today. Barry was a great passer and shooter and it was contagious not unlike Curry today. When the Sonics were first making the playoffs they would run into the Warriors and Barry so I got to see them a lot.

    If Walton had stayed healthy you'd have to find a place for him. The Blazers championship team was also great. Too bad nobody was watching sober in the 70's.

    There are really two eras, pre and post Magic and Larry
    Well, maybe not too bad...
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    PurpleJ said:

    Race, light yourself on fire for not including the Big O.

    That's a good point. I pretty much went with who I saw and while the Big O was there at the same time, TV back in the day was Lakers, Celtics, and Sixers in the 60's. O did win title with Kareem in Milwaukee,

    Who do I take off the list?
    these lists are always hard just based on how old you are. It's very difficult to have an appreciation for how good some players were as well as a perspective of the era the player was in.

    I wish I had the time or the footage to go back and really appreciate some of the players in the 60's and 70's. Stats just don't do many players justice when discussing career dominance.
    I can tell you that the Rick Barry Warriors were as fun to watch as the Warriors today. Barry was a great passer and shooter and it was contagious not unlike Curry today. When the Sonics were first making the playoffs they would run into the Warriors and Barry so I got to see them a lot.

    If Walton had stayed healthy you'd have to find a place for him. The Blazers championship team was also great. Too bad nobody was watching in the 70's.

    There are really two eras, pre and post Magic and Larry
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