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2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
After Paris, Trump said “security is going to rule” in the United States, in order to take on what he calls “radical Islamic terrorism.” America has currently agreed to take in 10,000 refugees from the ISIS stronghold in Syria. However, if he is elected, Trump said he would deport any Syrian refugees allowed to enter this country under President Obama.

“They’re going to be gone. They will go back. … I’ve said it before, in fact, and everyone hears what I say, including them, believe it or not,” Trump said of the refugees. “But if they’re here, they have to go back, because we cannot take a chance. You look at the migration, it’s young, strong men. We cannot take a chance that the people coming over here are going to be ISIS-affiliated.”

Yahoo News has reported that about half of the approximately 2,000 refugees from Syria who have come to the U.S. so far have been children. Another quarter are more than 60 years old. The Obama administration has maintained that the extensive screening process for these refugees makes the program safe to maintain — not to mention a reflection of America’s core values.

But Trump doesn’t buy it. He also has concerns about the larger Muslim community here in the U.S., he said.

Yahoo News asked Trump whether his push for increased surveillance of American Muslims could include warrantless searches. He suggested he would consider a series of drastic measures.

“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”


https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-has-big-plans-1303117537878070.html
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  • Halal_Dawg
    Halal_Dawg Member Posts: 33
    If anyone asks, I'm one of @Swaye people.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    unless you're daughter is wearing the mark of Swaye tatood on her tit, you aren't.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,136 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    All will be Freedom loving people only interested in contributing and succeeding in the Great Democracy that is the United States of America. It is their birthright.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,156 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    All will be Freedom loving people only interested in contributing and succeeding in the Great Satan that is the United States of America. It is their birthright.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,136 Standard Supporter

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    Conscript them into a European Union fighting force and ship their ass back to fight. Keep the women and children.

    Old skool privateer methods.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    This is where many of my fellow liberals are naïve, stupid, and caught up in political correctness and a great desire to prove how inclusive they are. They hear Trump and want to do the opposite because Trump was mean to Messicans and bad lesbian comics.

    The refugees need to be vetted. It's a bad situation for them, but to not do so is FS. Protect your country.
    This is where Rush Limbaugh dick sucking meatheads get caught up in the faux outrage of the day.

    You really think they are just going to let a bunch of Syrians in here and not very one of them? And 62% of them are military grade men in their 20s?

    Fuck you are stupid and gullible.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    This is where many of my fellow liberals are naïve, stupid, and caught up in political correctness and a great desire to prove how inclusive they are. They hear Trump and want to do the opposite because Trump was mean to Messicans and bad lesbian comics.

    The refugees need to be vetted. It's a bad situation for them, but to not do so is FS. Protect your country.
    This is where Rush Limbaugh dick sucking meatheads get caught up in the faux outrage of the day.

    You really think they are just going to let a bunch of Syrians in here and not very one of them? And 62% of them are military grade men in their 20s?

    Fuck you are stupid and gullible
    .
    Since when did radical islam use exclusively 20 something males to carry out their attacks?

    They aren't telling little Akmed to go home, have an ice cream, and come back when he's 18. They are putting a bomb in his waffle cone and telling him he'll have ice cream for all eternity if he shares it with the infidels.

    They'll strap bombs on their bitches too, they don't give a fuck. One of the french suicide bombers was some chick the mastermind recruited from facebook and was banging.

    You're fucking stupid and gullible if you think they are going to stop using these tactics, especially when so many like you will walk them through the gate.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    2001400ex said:

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    This is where many of my fellow liberals are naïve, stupid, and caught up in political correctness and a great desire to prove how inclusive they are. They hear Trump and want to do the opposite because Trump was mean to Messicans and bad lesbian comics.

    The refugees need to be vetted. It's a bad situation for them, but to not do so is FS. Protect your country.
    You really think they are just going to let a bunch of Syrians in here and not very one of them? And 62% of them are military grade men in their 20s?
    According to the UN it was actually 73% or so, but then they "readjusted" the number down to 62%. And how again do you "vet" any of them when there is no information held by the country they live in about who they are and what they have done? The FBI said its not possible, so of course HondoFS thinks it is.

    And I like the new qualification of only in their 20s...one might be cynical and point out the terrorist fugitive they are looking for in Belgium is in his 30s...

    HondoFS...
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    I welcome Tumors on my body. Not all of them are malignant!
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    This is where many of my fellow liberals are naïve, stupid, and caught up in political correctness and a great desire to prove how inclusive they are. They hear Trump and want to do the opposite because Trump was mean to Messicans and bad lesbian comics.

    The refugees need to be vetted. It's a bad situation for them, but to not do so is FS. Protect your country.
    That's it, *yore off HondoFS' Christmas list.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    pawz said:

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    This is where many of my fellow liberals are naïve, stupid, and caught up in political correctness and a great desire to prove how inclusive they are. They hear Trump and want to do the opposite because Trump was mean to Messicans and bad lesbian comics.

    The refugees need to be vetted. It's a bad situation for them, but to not do so is FS. Protect your country.
    That's it, *yore off HondoFS' Christmas Ramadan list.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    The US vetting process for refugees takes two yeras on average. So yes, it will be different.

    This shit takes less than 10 seconds to look up. Jesus.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,156 Founders Club
    If it takes two years why is Obama pissing all over himself now about it? Get back to us in 2 years when you have the vetting done and we'll talk
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,682 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2015
    I agree with Hondo on some things but he's blinded by his news sources on this one. Amy Goodman won't tell you the real deal all the time bud.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    edited November 2015

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    The US vetting process for refugees takes two yeras on average. So yes, it will be different.

    This shit takes less than 10 seconds to look up. Jesus.
    Spending two years vetting nonexistent databases should fix everything. And did we start already vetting the 100,000 Syrians he wants to bring in next year? Didn't think so...

    Effin moron...
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I agree with Hondo on some things but he's blinded by his news sources on this one. Amy Goodman won't tell you the real deal all the time bud.

    I didn't get anything from any news source. It's just common sense, it's not like tomorrow we are going to let 6,200 (62% of 10,000) military grade men into our country as Houston suggests. And it's not like there's no vetting process that others are suggesting.

    I'm going to use everyone's favorite gun control example. Do you really think ISIS is going to enter our country legally? No they are going to get in the same way they do right now.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    walk thru open, undefended borders?
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    The US vetting process for refugees takes two yeras on average. So yes, it will be different.

    This shit takes less than 10 seconds to look up. Jesus.
    Spending two years vetting nonexistent databases should fix everything. And did we start already vetting the 100,000 Syrians he wants to bring in next year? Didn't think so...

    Effin moron...
    Where are you getting 100,000? It's 10,000, and yes I would imagine the process has already started.

    What do you think would be more difficult to do; be successfully vetted and allowed into the US as a refugee, or travel to the US as a tourist? You don't have to establish residency before you shoot up a theater.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I agree with Hondo on some things but he's blinded by his news sources on this one. Amy Goodman won't tell you the real deal all the time bud.

    Jeez, patriarchy much?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    The politicking on this refugee issue has been terrible on all sides.

    "I love poor, freedom yearning brown people, the other guys hates them."
    "I love keeping our nation secure, the other guys hate America."

    Our immigration situation is not Europe's. The simpler way to get Jihadi Joe into the country remains walking him through the Southern border.

  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    edited November 2015

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    The US vetting process for refugees takes two yeras on average. So yes, it will be different.

    This shit takes less than 10 seconds to look up. Jesus.
    Spending two years vetting nonexistent databases should fix everything. And did we start already vetting the 100,000 Syrians he wants to bring in next year? Didn't think so...

    Effin moron...
    Where are you getting 100,000? It's 10,000, and yes I would imagine the process has already started.

    What do you think would be more difficult to do; be successfully vetted and allowed into the US as a refugee, or travel to the US as a tourist? You don't have to establish residency before you shoot up a theater.
    No, it's actually 65,000 if you want to get specific.

    "I would like to see us move from what is a good start with 10,000 to 65,000"

    Keep trying...


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    62% of the Syrian refugees that have gone to Europe are military age men. I'm sure our refugees will de different...

    The US vetting process for refugees takes two yeras on average. So yes, it will be different.

    This shit takes less than 10 seconds to look up. Jesus.
    Spending two years vetting nonexistent databases should fix everything. And did we start already vetting the 100,000 Syrians he wants to bring in next year? Didn't think so...

    Effin moron...
    Where are you getting 100,000? It's 10,000, and yes I would imagine the process has already started.

    What do you think would be more difficult to do; be successfully vetted and allowed into the US as a refugee, or travel to the US as a tourist? You don't have to establish residency before you shoot up a theater.
    No, it's actually 65,000 if you want to get specific.

    "I would like to see us move from what is a good start with 10,000 to 65,000"

    Keep trying...


    I thought a good start was 10,000 attorneys buried to their neck in sand?

    It's actually hilarious you, a supposedly educated person, buys off on the GOP scare machine. Like what has been mentioned, ISIS will not enter legally under this program. You act like ISIS isn't already here.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    Its not surprising you, a moron, are lapping this up when even many of your fellow Liberals think its FS.

    Anyone should be offended by this on many fronts. We aren't a dictatorship...the law is pretty clear on who is classified as a refugee. When the president can't get that right its not a good start. On top of that, the law is the law...you want to expand it then pass a law raising the numbers allowed as refugees. You can just decree 'We will do this' when the law doesn't say that...like it or not, that's not how our system works. And if you are actually interested in helping people, you can much more efficiently help more refugees by not flying them here and paying them via government subsidies but instead setting up safe zones either there or near there (Turkey?). Its what Clinton did in the 90s...for the same cost you can help at least 5x to 10x the number of people. And to top that off, if you think you could accurately do background checks on 65,000 refugees a year from a country with no infrastructure then you are as FS as you appear to be.

    HondoFS...
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109