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RoadDawg55
RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam
I don't blame Schneider of Carroll for locking up Wilson. That's what you do with QB's who win. In hindsight though, does anyone else agree it would be better to have let him play out this year and franchise him next year?

I think he's disliked by more than just this board and there was more smoke than originally thought about his teammates not being too fond of him. That was the report last year when the team was struggling. The chemistry isn't what it was from a few years ago. Then again, these guys are pro's and chemistry and getting along is often overrated.
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  • section8
    section8 Member Posts: 1,581
    The guy used to spend all his spare time studying the playbook and practicing, now it's posing for Instagram and taking every opportunity to tell the world how much he's not fucking his girlfriend. Maybe that gets a little irritating for teammates.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited November 2015
    Maybe in hindsight, but OTOH having your QB's contract hang over your head all year long would have gotten old quickly too. I still think he'd make more than the contract they gave him on the open market if it ever came to that, and franchising him the next two years would cost much more on average than the prorated part of the average annual value of the extension.

    I think they did what they had to do.

    Ciara needs to break up with him and let him get his head back in the game.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259
    Sounds like too many people worrying about shit that doesn't matter to me ... your job on the field is to go out and win. Big difference between wanting to hang out with people off the field versus working together on the field.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    I don't buy that at all. I think some of his teammate think he's weird, but they all respect the things he can do and his work ethic. Look at the time he has to throw the football, he's under siege on virtually every snap. I would like to see him under center and throwing quick passes more, but that's another story.

    Wilson is a winner and a potentially great quarterback. Where the Seahawks failed is their overconfidence (arrogance?) that they could patchwork together a bunch of rejects on the offensive line and make them productive. I believe it has messed with Wilson's confidence and concentration, and understandably so.

    If you're talking about discontentment, I think the Chancellor thing may have had reverberations into the season. Why is the defensive backfield playing so poorly at times when the front seven is playing so well?

    I think there's truth to both arguments. I think Wilson has played poorly and rubbed a few teammates wrong, but most of them respect him even if they're not hanging out together. I think Chancellor's holdout was a bigger distraction than anyone wanted to admit at the time. But I think you hit on the biggest thing, their arrogance and overconfidence in Cable and a bunch of DL rejects has stripped the offense of any sort of rhythm or consistency.

    TL;DR: Abundance
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tequilla said:

    Sounds like too many people worrying about shit that doesn't matter to me ... your job on the field is to go out and win. Big difference between wanting to hang out with people off the field versus working together on the field.

    It's different in general in pro sports, but chemistry is huge at any level of football.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam

    I don't buy that at all. I think some of his teammate think he's weird, but they all respect the things he can do and his work ethic. Look at the time he has to throw the football, he's under siege on virtually every snap. I would like to see him under center and throwing quick passes more, but that's another story.

    Wilson is a winner and a potentially great quarterback. Where the Seahawks failed is their overconfidence (arrogance?) that they could patchwork together a bunch of rejects on the offensive line and make them productive. I believe it has messed with Wilson's confidence and concentration, and understandably so.

    If you're talking about discontentment, I think the Chancellor thing may have had reverberations into the season. Why is the defensive backfield playing so poorly at times when the front seven is playing so well?

    Good post. It is strange that the secondary's communication breaks down as often as it has. I rarely, if ever remember that happening the past two years. I would say Bennett, Avril, Wagner, and possibly even Wright are playing better than any member of the secondary. Maybe Earl Thomas, but even he has been playing worse this year.

    In regards to Wilson throwing more quick passes, I think that's where his height comes in. He's average, maybe even below average as a pocket passer.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,119 Founders Club

    I don't buy that at all. I think some of his teammate think he's weird, but they all respect the things he can do and his work ethic. Look at the time he has to throw the football, he's under siege on virtually every snap. I would like to see him under center and throwing quick passes more, but that's another story.

    Wilson is a winner and a potentially great quarterback. Where the Seahawks failed is their overconfidence (arrogance?) that they could patchwork together a bunch of rejects on the offensive line and make them productive. I believe it has messed with Wilson's confidence and concentration, and understandably so.

    If you're talking about discontentment, I think the Chancellor thing may have had reverberations into the season. Why is the defensive backfield playing so poorly at times when the front seven is playing so well?

    Good post. It is strange that the secondary's communication breaks down as often as it has. I rarely, if ever remember that happening the past two years. I would say Bennett, Avril, Wagner, and possibly even Wright are playing better than any member of the secondary. Maybe Earl Thomas, but even he has been playing worse this year.

    In regards to Wilson throwing more quick passes, I think that's where his height comes in. He's average, maybe even below average as a pocket passer.
    The only thing is that he's the same height as Drew Brees, and Brees can work from the pocket. So why not Russell? But you might be right.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,039 Founders Club
    Wilson is a league leader in sacks caused by the QB
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam

    Wilson is a league leader in sacks caused by the QB

    The OL sucks, but this is also true.