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maybe we an stop treating education as a business?

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  • section8
    section8 Member Posts: 1,581
    The degree or even a certificate program helps with the first couple jobs but after that for most part it's all on the individual to prove themselves. Unless your talking about medical or law, maybe education degrees they really don't matter all that much ten or fifteen years down the road when you've forgotten most of what you learned and are probably working in an unrelated field anyways.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    If colleges actually operated like a business and had to compete for our hard earned dollars through innovation and lower prices instead of being mostly dictated by government rules and having to increase prices to offset the artificially high demand caused by subsidies, then we wouldn't have this problem.

    It's like we decided that more people need to go to college, and now we are outraged that it's costing money to do that. Something something eating cake.

    And honestly we probably need less people going to college anyway. 20 years ago the people who started their careers in the same position as me didn't have a degree because it wasnt difficult to train them. Now everyone does because that's become the standard. So if you want the job you gotta get a degree or you can't compete with the other applicants. So basically colleges are raking in extra revenue but nobody is really producing more in the workforce for it. That's not a good thing at all. It's a major fucking waste.

    Then why is the college graduate unemployment rate under 3%?
    yet another blatant indicator that 'unemployment rate' is a fictitious manipulated government statistic for sheep.
    Yes, consider the statistics inaccurate (the same exact ones you bragged about when your guy was president and it was 4% overall). And believe hyperbole instead. Just what an "educated college graduate" should do.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Fuck off, murderer.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited November 2015

    Fuck off, murderer.

    You clearly hate facts. Sorry bro.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    How is college not required in THIS economy? @RoadDawg55 @allpurpleallgold?

    Sure, you can make a living if you have hard skills in a field like construction or other technical area. But that's not most people, and it's going to be even more pronounced in the future. How is sending people to school to learn how to write and read difficult material in any way a bad thing?
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    I see this fault with a lot of my lefty friends, where they're still stuck in this pre-1990's world where people should just be able to make a wage and go on with their lives. There's a reason that farming and manufacturing are going toward automation, and it's our responsibility to make sure people are prepared for the next economic period.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,372
    This thread is FS.

    You should all pay me a consultation fee and then I'd tell you how it is.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Hell, even medicine is going to see automation. The only fields that are entirely immune to disruption by robots are those that are derived from the "soft" liberal arts like philosophy, cultural criticism, art, etc.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Hell, even medicine is going to see automation. The only fields that are entirely immune to disruption by robots are those that are derived from the "soft" liberal arts like philosophy, cultural criticism, art, etc.

    You think accountants and lawyers are going automated?

    Really, it doesn't matter the field. Just like T. Boone says. It's about hard work. Unless you are already wealthy like Gordon Gecko.
  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989

    I see this fault with a lot of my lefty friends, where they're still stuck in this pre-1990's world where people should just be able to make a wage and go on with their lives. There's a reason that farming and manufacturing are going toward automation, and it's our responsibility to make sure people are prepared for the next economic period.

    Partially, yes, but there are many fields where the applicants are too overqualified, and the only reason you need a degree to get a job in it is because everyone else has one, and not because the education is necessary to perform.