Trump is right
"We have to become competitive with the world. Our taxes are too high, our wages are too high. Everything is too high. We have to compete with other countries."
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/donald-trump-doubles-down-wages-161524016.html
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I think we should have federally mandated wages. Fuck it, the federal government should take over private business. That would help.
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Sounds like you agree wages are too high. You going to volunteer a pay cut first?HuskyInAZ said:I think we should have federally mandated wages. Fuck it, the federal government should take over private business. That would help.
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The markets and economy need to dictate wage levels. It is completely illogical to just pull arbitrary wage numbers out of your ass and call it fair.
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Hondo the only pay cut you are worried about is that of your EBT and free phone you lazy fuck. Zippeth thy crap trap and go back to eating free ham sandwich in moms cunthole.
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I love it when people who don't, and likely won't ever (Hi @HondaFS!), make enough to pay REAL taxes always claim taxes aren't high enough. I just love that.PurpleJ said:Hondo the only pay cut you are worried about is that of your EBT and free phone you lazy fuck. Zippeth thy crap trap and go back to eating free ham sandwich in moms cunthole.
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I mean seriously, who doesn't want punitive taxation on the successful people, so that the useless lay abouts can continue their meth addictions in peace in their trailer?
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Did I say anything about a minimum wage? All y'all are projecting. I've never once supported a $15 minimum wage.PurpleReign said:The markets and economy need to dictate wage levels. It is completely illogical to just pull arbitrary wage numbers out of your ass and call it fair.
The article is about Trump thinking wages are too high, we need to lower wages to compete with other countries.
You guys clearly lack reading comprehension. (If you want my personal opinion, going to $15 minimum wage, or having a higher minimum wage in localities like Seattle and SeaTac is dumb. But I do support a federal minimum wage going up nominally, say to $10 over the next 3 years). -
Who said anything about taxes?pawz said:
I love it when people who don't, and likely won't ever (Hi @HondaFS!), make enough to pay REAL taxes always claim taxes aren't high enough. I just love that.PurpleJ said:Hondo the only pay cut you are worried about is that of your EBT and free phone you lazy fuck. Zippeth thy crap trap and go back to eating free ham sandwich in moms cunthole.
Fuck you are dumb. And I'm the one with the 8th grade education. -
You people don't even pay taxes.Swaye said:I mean seriously, who doesn't want punitive taxation on the successful people, so that the useless lay abouts can continue their meth addictions in peace in their trailer?
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What do you mean, "you people."allpurpleallgold said:
You people don't even pay taxes.Swaye said:I mean seriously, who doesn't want punitive taxation on the successful people, so that the useless lay abouts can continue their meth addictions in peace in their trailer?
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The other guy gets paid too much and doesn't pay enough taxes. I don't get paid enough and pay too many taxes.
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Wrong. The article is about Trump's response to RAISING the minimum wage. Read the fucking article you linked, paragraph 4.2001400ex said:
Did I say anything about a minimum wage? All y'all are projecting. I've never once supported a $15 minimum wage.PurpleReign said:The markets and economy need to dictate wage levels. It is completely illogical to just pull arbitrary wage numbers out of your ass and call it fair.
The article is about Trump thinking wages are too high, we need to lower wages to compete with other countries.
You guys clearly lack reading comprehension. (If you want my personal opinion, going to $15 minimum wage, or having a higher minimum wage in localities like Seattle and SeaTac is dumb. But I do support a federal minimum wage going up nominally, say to $10 over the next 3 years). -
Fuck you are stupid. Try looking more than 2 inches past your nose. I know it's tough with Trump's ballsac in the way.HuskyInAZ said:
Wrong. The article is about Trump's response to RAISING the minimum wage. Read the fucking article you linked, paragraph 4.2001400ex said:
Did I say anything about a minimum wage? All y'all are projecting. I've never once supported a $15 minimum wage.PurpleReign said:The markets and economy need to dictate wage levels. It is completely illogical to just pull arbitrary wage numbers out of your ass and call it fair.
The article is about Trump thinking wages are too high, we need to lower wages to compete with other countries.
You guys clearly lack reading comprehension. (If you want my personal opinion, going to $15 minimum wage, or having a higher minimum wage in localities like Seattle and SeaTac is dumb. But I do support a federal minimum wage going up nominally, say to $10 over the next 3 years). -
2001400ex said:
Fuck you are stupid. Try looking more than 2 inches past your nose. I know it's tough with Trump's ballsac in the way.HuskyInAZ said:
Wrong. The article is about Trump's response to RAISING the minimum wage. Read the fucking article you linked, paragraph 4.2001400ex said:
Did I say anything about a minimum wage? All y'all are projecting. I've never once supported a $15 minimum wage.PurpleReign said:The markets and economy need to dictate wage levels. It is completely illogical to just pull arbitrary wage numbers out of your ass and call it fair.
The article is about Trump thinking wages are too high, we need to lower wages to compete with other countries.
You guys clearly lack reading comprehension. (If you want my personal opinion, going to $15 minimum wage, or having a higher minimum wage in localities like Seattle and SeaTac is dumb. But I do support a federal minimum wage going up nominally, say to $10 over the next 3 years).
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Trump's point is that businesses outsource their labor overseas to take advantage of the cheap labor and tax benefits, which he's right. However, matching labor costs here is not economically feasable, in that essence I agree with Hondo.
However I disagree about how raising the minimum wage brings much benefit economically. Most of our essential service industries are supported by a minimum or close to minimum wage workforce. Raising the minimum wage will lead to increase costs at the supermarket, restaurants, gas stations, retail stores, etc. The minimum wage worker getting a raise is a myth, as their cost for essentials goes up as well. Who gets screwed in all of this are the people making slightly over minimum wage. These people, will actually see a wage decline as their purchasing power will take a significant hit.
This is part of the reason why we have a continuing growth in disinterest in the American workforce. Why should I have to work my ass off, when I can get the same and in some cases more benefits by setting at home watching Jerry Springer re-runs.
Now if we want to include an inflation kicker say 3% a year to minimum wage, I'm ok with that. If you use 1978 as a target compunding 3% a year, today's minimum wage should be $7.91/hr, which is more than the $7.25 is it is now. Honda wanting to go to $10.00 in three years is a bit extreme, I think 3% compounding from $7.91 to $8.64 is more than sufficient. $10.00/hr would then be the minimum in about 8 years. Of course, in situations like a depression, some of those increases may have to be halted.
There needs to be give and take. If there is a set increase in minimum wage, then intitlements have to be heavily regulated. Unless you have a severe physical or mental condition, you should have to work or you get nothing. -
A grown ass man can't live on 15 an hour let alone a family. Why not focus on jobs that pay a REAL living wage.
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RaceBannon said:2001400ex said:
Fuck you are stupid. Try looking more than 2 inches past your nose. I know it's tough with Trump's ballsac in the way.HuskyInAZ said:
Wrong. The article is about Trump's response to RAISING the minimum wage. Read the fucking article you linked, paragraph 4.2001400ex said:
Did I say anything about a minimum wage? All y'all are projecting. I've never once supported a $15 minimum wage.PurpleReign said:The markets and economy need to dictate wage levels. It is completely illogical to just pull arbitrary wage numbers out of your ass and call it fair.
The article is about Trump thinking wages are too high, we need to lower wages to compete with other countries.
You guys clearly lack reading comprehension. (If you want my personal opinion, going to $15 minimum wage, or having a higher minimum wage in localities like Seattle and SeaTac is dumb. But I do support a federal minimum wage going up nominally, say to $10 over the next 3 years).
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If everybody is going to earn wages of $15/hour... Were going to need a helluva payroll tax increase so we can all support our parents social security and Medicare expenses.
All pension fund contributors aren't paying their fair share, either so, pension contributions from current workers should probably double/triple immediately, with future retirement benefits cut, too. -
Then how do you propose to focus on jobs that pay a real living wage? What should Obama do? I'm curious on your take.RaceBannon said:A grown ass man can't live on 15 an hour let alone a family. Why not focus on jobs that pay a REAL living wage.
Because Obama is a failure? -
always about the blacksRaceBannon said:2001400ex said:
Fuck you are stupid. Try looking more than 2 inches past your nose. I know it's tough with Trump's ballsac in the way.HuskyInAZ said:
Wrong. The article is about Trump's response to RAISING the minimum wage. Read the fucking article you linked, paragraph 4.2001400ex said:
Did I say anything about a minimum wage? All y'all are projecting. I've never once supported a $15 minimum wage.PurpleReign said:The markets and economy need to dictate wage levels. It is completely illogical to just pull arbitrary wage numbers out of your ass and call it fair.
The article is about Trump thinking wages are too high, we need to lower wages to compete with other countries.
You guys clearly lack reading comprehension. (If you want my personal opinion, going to $15 minimum wage, or having a higher minimum wage in localities like Seattle and SeaTac is dumb. But I do support a federal minimum wage going up nominally, say to $10 over the next 3 years). -
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Isn't that like asking what Ty should be doing differently while still coaching the Huskies?2001400ex said:
Then how do you propose to focus on jobs that pay a real living wage? What should Obama do? I'm curious on your take.RaceBannon said:A grown ass man can't live on 15 an hour let alone a family. Why not focus on jobs that pay a REAL living wage.
Because Obama is a failure? -
Ok. What do you think your candidate should do to focus on jobs that pay a living wage?sarktastic said:ou
Isn't that like asking what Ty should be doing differently while still coaching the Huskies?2001400ex said:
Then how do you propose to focus on jobs that pay a real living wage? What should Obama do? I'm curious on your take.RaceBannon said:A grown ass man can't live on 15 an hour let alone a family. Why not focus on jobs that pay a REAL living wage.
Because Obama is a failure? -
I know. Ramrod a one sided new trade agreement that gives big business more opportunities to off shore even more jobs. That should help to raise incomes.2001400ex said:
Then how do you propose to focus on jobs that pay a real living wage? What should Obama do? I'm curious on your take.RaceBannon said:A grown ass man can't live on 15 an hour let alone a family. Why not focus on jobs that pay a REAL living wage.
Because Obama is a failure?
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Good question. What is Hillarys plan?2001400ex said:
Ok. What do you think your candidate should do to focus on jobs that pay a living wage?sarktastic said:ou
Isn't that like asking what Ty should be doing differently while still coaching the Huskies?2001400ex said:
Then how do you propose to focus on jobs that pay a real living wage? What should Obama do? I'm curious on your take.RaceBannon said:A grown ass man can't live on 15 an hour let alone a family. Why not focus on jobs that pay a REAL living wage.
Because Obama is a failure? -
Welfare and student loans for coal workers.
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Let's send everyone with social security a check for a raise equivalent to the increase in CEO salaries. Problem solved!2001400ex said:
Ok. What do you think your candidate should do to focus on jobs that pay a living wage?sarktastic said:ou
Isn't that like asking what Ty should be doing differently while still coaching the Huskies?2001400ex said:
Then how do you propose to focus on jobs that pay a real living wage? What should Obama do? I'm curious on your take.RaceBannon said:A grown ass man can't live on 15 an hour let alone a family. Why not focus on jobs that pay a REAL living wage.
Because Obama is a failure?
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Talk about helping the middle class while succumbing to the lobbyists all the while doing nothing.RaceBannon said:
Good question. What is Hillarys plan?2001400ex said:
Ok. What do you think your candidate should do to focus on jobs that pay a living wage?sarktastic said:ou
Isn't that like asking what Ty should be doing differently while still coaching the Huskies?2001400ex said:
Then how do you propose to focus on jobs that pay a real living wage? What should Obama do? I'm curious on your take.RaceBannon said:A grown ass man can't live on 15 an hour let alone a family. Why not focus on jobs that pay a REAL living wage.
Because Obama is a failure?
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So why are you voting for her?
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For the third time, what will your candidate do that's better?RaceBannon said:So why are you voting for her?
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Hillary is my candidate. What's her plan?
