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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.

    I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.

    but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.

    Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't

    First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.

    That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.

    Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
    Idiot.

    smh.com.au/news/national/gun-laws-fall-short-in-war-on-crime/2005/10/28/1130400366681.html
    From your own link:

    There has been a fall in firearms murders (from 32 to 13 per cent)

    HTH
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.

    I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.

    but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.

    Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't

    First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.

    That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.

    Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
    Why the fuck does it matter to you what people buy with their own money?... is it simple jealousy?
    Just stating facts.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
    No you aren't. They confiscated guns asshole. Just like Hilary wants to

    Fuck off
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
    crime
    By Robert Wainwright
    October 29, 2005
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    Gun ownership is rising and there is no definitive evidence that a decade of restrictive firearms laws has done anything to reduce weapon-related crime, according to NSW's top criminal statistician.
    The latest figures show a renaissance in firearm ownership in the state - a 25 per cent increase in three years. And the head of the Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research, Don Weatherburn, said falls in armed robberies and abductions in NSW in the past few years had more to do with the heroin drought and good policing than firearms legislation.
    Even falls in the homicide rate, which have been steady, began long before the gun law debate provoked by the Port Arthur massacre in 1996.
    Nationwide, the proportion of robberies involving weapons is the same as it was in 1996, while the proportion of abductions involving weapons is higher, the latest Australian Bureau of Statistics fiures reveal. They show a mixed result in firearms-related offences since the mid-1990s. There has been a fall in firearms murders (from 32 to 13 per cent) but a rise (19 to 23 per cent) in attempted murders involving guns.
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    "I would need to see more convincing evidence than there is to be able to say that gun laws have had any effect," Dr Weatherburn said. "The best that could be said for the tougher laws is there has been no other mass killing using firearms [since Port Arthur].
    "There has been a drop in firearm-related crime, particularly in homicide, but it began long before the new laws and has continued on afterwards. I don't think anyone really understands why. A lot of people assume that the tougher laws did it, but I would need more specific, convincing evidence …
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    No you aren't. They confiscated guns asshole. Just like Hilary wants to

    Fuck off

    The sound of Race realizing he's stupid. And gullible.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    No you aren't. They confiscated guns asshole. Just like Hilary wants to

    Fuck off

    The sound of Race realizing he's stupid. And gullible.
    The sound of Race showing you to be a lying sack of shit

    Fuck off
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    No you aren't. They confiscated guns asshole. Just like Hilary wants to

    Fuck off

    The sound of Race realizing he's stupid. And gullible.
    The sound of Race showing you to be a lying sack of shit

    Fuck off
    Race hates his own words.
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    2001400ex said:

    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.

    I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.

    but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.

    Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't

    First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.

    That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.

    Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
    Idiot.

    smh.com.au/news/national/gun-laws-fall-short-in-war-on-crime/2005/10/28/1130400366681.html
    From your own link:

    There has been a fall in firearms murders (from 32 to 13 per cent)

    HTH
    Finish the sentence, idiot.
    "...but a rise (19 to 23 per cent) in attempted murders involving guns."

    Also:
    "I would need to see more convincing evidence than there is to be able to say that gun laws have had any effect," Dr Weatherburn said. "
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited October 2015
    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.

    I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.

    but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.

    Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't

    First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.

    That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.

    Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
    Idiot.

    smh.com.au/news/national/gun-laws-fall-short-in-war-on-crime/2005/10/28/1130400366681.html
    From your own link:

    There has been a fall in firearms murders (from 32 to 13 per cent)

    HTH
    Finish the sentence, idiot.
    "...but a rise (19 to 23 per cent) in attempted murders involving guns."

    Also:
    "I would need to see more convincing evidence than there is to be able to say that gun laws have had any effect," Dr Weatherburn said. "
    So is your argument, that murders deceased from 32% to 13%, but attempted murders went up 19 to 23%? Because here is a question. How many of those attempted murders would have been actual murders if they had better weapons?

    Just sayin.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    Hondo is able to show his doog colors without even talking football. Impressive.

    #hatesfacts

    Actually the facts fall right in line with my argument. Again, you can't see what's right in front of you.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    No you aren't. They confiscated guns asshole. Just like Hilary wants to

    Fuck off

    The sound of Race realizing he's stupid. And gullible.
    The sound of Race showing you to be a lying sack of shit

    Fuck off
    Race hates his own words.
    My words are destroying you.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Hondo is able to show his doog colors without even talking football. Impressive.

    #hatesfacts

    Actually the facts fall right in line with my argument. Again, you can't see what's right in front of you.
    Thanks for proving my point. Again.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    It's actually sad how hard Honda is winning this thread.

    Some of you should be embarrassed.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.

    I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.

    but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.

    Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't

    First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.

    That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.

    Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
    It didn't work assfucker. Crime rose until the people figured out they needed guns to protect themselves from the bad guys. Now more people have guns today than before the confiscation. What do you think happened with crime fuctard?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,939 Founders Club
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club

    Disagree

    Do you think I fucking care? You're a fucking asshat liberal
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.

    I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.

    but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.

    Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't

    First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.

    That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.

    Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
    It didn't work assfucker. Crime rose until the people figured out they needed guns to protect themselves from the bad guys. Now more people have guns today than before the confiscation. What do you think happened with crime fuctard?
    The goal wasn't to confiscate all guns. The goal was to pay fair value for certain firearms and have a national registry, and reduced deaths from gun violence. Which all of the above has happened. Even the people saying this was fucked up showed stats that murders by guns declined from 32% to 13%.

    Reading is your friend, and if you use comprehension it works even better. Rather than your preconceived notions, which are false.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Disagree

    Do you think I fucking care? You're a fucking asshat liberal
    I wasn't talking to you.
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    The Australian bill that both Obama and Hillary are now advocating was not voluntary, it was mandatory.

    I'm sure both of them appreciate the little internet lemmings like Hondo spreading out to ask where Hillary ever said she would confiscate guns.

    but the fact is if they want that bill they want mandatory confiscation of guns.

    Case closed. Man up and agree with them or don't

    First it's stupid of Hillary to suggest in any way that what worked in Australia is viable here.

    That being said, they didn't confiscate all guns. They paid fair value for "assault weapons". And murder and suicide rates dropped drastically since.

    Taking currently owned guns away from people won't happen in America. Our society is different than Australia, we have way more people that cling to guns. Being able to own 11 pistols isn't enough, they want to own the biggest gun they can buy.
    It didn't work assfucker. Crime rose until the people figured out they needed guns to protect themselves from the bad guys. Now more people have guns today than before the confiscation. What do you think happened with crime fuctard?
    The goal wasn't to confiscate all guns. The goal was to pay fair value for certain firearms and have a national registry, and reduced deaths from gun violence. Which all of the above has happened. Even the people saying this was fucked up showed stats that murders by guns declined from 32% to 13%.

    Reading is your friend, and if you use comprehension it works even better. Rather than your preconceived notions, which are false.
    "fair value" LOL