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Reagan on gun control

2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
http://www.vox.com/2015/10/5/9455805/ronald-reagan-gun-control

Reagan, who was himself a shooting victim during his time in office, wrote:

It was on that day 10 years ago that a deranged young man standing among reporters and photographers shot a policeman, a Secret Service agent, my press secretary and me on a Washington sidewalk. …

[F]our lives were changed forever, and all by a Saturday-night special — a cheaply made .22 caliber pistol — purchased in a Dallas pawnshop by a young man with a history of mental disturbance.

This nightmare might never have happened if legislation that is before Congress now — the Brady bill — had been law back in 1981.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Reagan is dead you asshole. I don't start threads about JFK. Show some fucking respect.
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,307
    Reagan probably said some even crazier s#it than this after 91.
    #Alzheimer'scrazyshit
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    if the Brady Bill had been passed... this never would have happened.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    edited October 2015
    I love how your version of "gun control" lumps background checks as it and ignores banning types of guns, waiting periods, etc...you know, the stuff that people are much more worried about.

    And another side question...why are Liberals trying to get the right to vote to all of the same people they are trying to ban from owning guns? These people are not competent enough to own a gun, but they sure as hell better not have their vote disenfranchised and be able to pull the lever for any and all (D)s. Any you better not ask them for any ID when they do it.

    #HondoFS
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I love how your version of "gun control" lumps background checks as it and ignores banning types of guns, waiting periods, etc...you know, the stuff that people are much more worried about.

    And another side question...why are Liberals trying to get the right to vote to all of the same people they are trying to ban from owning guns? These people are not competent enough to own a gun, but they sure as hell better not have their vote disenfranchised and be able to pull the lever for any and all (D)s. Any you better not ask them for any ID when they do it.

    #HondoFS

    I'm not sure any felon has the right to vote or the right to own a gun.

    HTH
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    Strict background checks are fine, but limiting an everyday, sane, law following person's right to own guns is bullshit.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    edited October 2015
    Depends on the state for voting and several things for guns. But you missed the point entirely (big surprise).

    #HondoFS
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    What a cool day to be a Reagan's rotting corpse dick sucker.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Strict background checks are fine, but limiting an everyday, sane, law following person's right to own guns is bullshit.

    Yes. What law was proposed in the last 7 years that has limited sometimes right to own a gun?
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    2001400ex said:

    Strict background checks are fine, but limiting an everyday, sane, law following person's right to own guns is bullshit.

    Yes. What law was proposed in the last 7 years that has limited sometimes right to own a gun?
    It bans the type of guns a person can carry.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Strict background checks are fine, but limiting an everyday, sane, law following person's right to own guns is bullshit.

    Yes. What law was proposed in the last 7 years that has limited sometimes right to own a gun?
    It bans the type of guns a person can carry.
    Um no. No law at the federal level proposed that.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Strict background checks are fine, but limiting an everyday, sane, law following person's right to own guns is bullshit.

    Yes. What law was proposed in the last 7 years that has limited sometimes right to own a gun?
    It bans the type of guns a person can carry.
    Um no. No law at the federal level proposed that.
    http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx

    You're welcome
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    You said this:

    It bans the type of guns a person can carry.

    It does not do that. It only banned future sales of certain weapons. Like the Brady bill. It does not limit what you can carry that you previously owned.

    And you are welcome.
  • PurpleReign
    PurpleReign Member Posts: 5,479
    I support mandatory gun licenses, but all weapons should be legal as long as you are trained to operate them and not crazy. If you have to pass a safety class to drive a car I think you should have to pass a gun safety class to own a firearm. And hey, more tax revenue for the man, so they should be happy. And probably a mental health screening, but how do you get it administered fairly without politics influencing the results? That is the question.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited October 2015
    2001400ex said:

    You said this:

    It bans the type of guns a person can carry.

    It does not do that. It only banned future sales of certain weapons. Like the Brady bill. It does not limit what you can carry that you previously owned.

    And you are welcome.

    So since it ONLY restricts future purchases, that makes it ok? Again, it restricts the guns everyday, sane, law following citizens can purchase.

    I am completely for strict background checks. But if someone passes those checks, they should be able to buy whatever they want.

    If you can't see that restrictions on future gun purchases are a violation of the 2nd amendment, then you really are nuts.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    You said this:

    It bans the type of guns a person can carry.

    It does not do that. It only banned future sales of certain weapons. Like the Brady bill. It does not limit what you can carry that you previously owned.

    And you are welcome.

    So since it ONLY restricts future purchases, that makes it ok? Again, it restricts the guns everyday, sane, law following citizens can purchase.

    I am completely for strict background checks. But if someone passes those checks, they should be able to buy whatever they want.

    If you can't see that restrictions on future gun purchases are a violation of the 2nd amendment, then you really are nuts.
    I was mostly with you until the end. The Brady bill was not ruled unconstitutional (and it lapsed 10 years later). Not to mention the laws that restrict fully automatic weapons.

    That being said, would you support everything else on that list if the gun ban were taken off?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Why do more laws need to be passed for law abiding people to follow?

    What teal or imagined benefit do I receive?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club

    Why do more laws need to be passed for law abiding people to follow?

    What teal or imagined benefit do I receive?

    They want all the guns. So does Hondo. He's too gutless to say it. At ozone admitted it. So did some WaPo editorialist this week

    What's so bad about a gun free society?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Why do more laws need to be passed for law abiding people to follow?

    What teal or imagined benefit do I receive?

    Clearly it's all about you.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Why do more laws need to be passed for law abiding people to follow?

    What teal or imagined benefit do I receive?

    They want all the guns. So does Hondo. He's too gutless to say it. At ozone admitted it. So did some WaPo editorialist this week

    What's so bad about a gun free society?
    Not one person in any sort of actual power, wants to ban all guns. It's stupid to even suggest and there's no way that would happen.

    People like you believe in the boogeyman and other shit that doesn't exist.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Why do more laws need to be passed for law abiding people to follow?

    What teal or imagined benefit do I receive?

    They want all the guns. So does Hondo. He's too gutless to say it. At ozone admitted it. So did some WaPo editorialist this week

    What's so bad about a gun free society?
    Not one person in any sort of actual power, wants to ban all guns. It's stupid to even suggest and there's no way that would happen.

    People like you believe in the boogeyman and other shit that doesn't exist.
    You're a fucking liar too. I guarantee they do. They just know the reaction

    What you are whining about here daily in numerous threads has one end game and everyone knows it

    Fuck off
    Someone struck a nerve. Sorry you are living scared.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited October 2015
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    You said this:

    It bans the type of guns a person can carry.

    It does not do that. It only banned future sales of certain weapons. Like the Brady bill. It does not limit what you can carry that you previously owned.

    And you are welcome.

    So since it ONLY restricts future purchases, that makes it ok? Again, it restricts the guns everyday, sane, law following citizens can purchase.

    I am completely for strict background checks. But if someone passes those checks, they should be able to buy whatever they want.

    If you can't see that restrictions on future gun purchases are a violation of the 2nd amendment, then you really are nuts.
    I was mostly with you until the end. The Brady bill was not ruled unconstitutional (and it lapsed 10 years later). Not to mention the laws that restrict fully automatic weapons.

    That being said, would you support everything else on that list if the gun ban were taken off?
    Yes

    Except for the last bullet point as well. Mental stability training and referrals shouldn't be part of a gun law.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

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    Yes, your are repeating what 98% of the country already knows.