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So we know Saudi Arabia is backing the Islamic State, and are pretty sure
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In 20 years Iran will be an ally of the US. It is a country with huge potential in the decades to come. It has excellent demographics and the young people are modernized, educated and very pro West. The old nutjobs there don't like the US because it overthrew their government and installed a tyrant. The young people have no recollection of that. In another decade or two the old nutjobs will be gone.
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I'm sorry, but Saudi supports Jaish not IS because IS could metastasize within the kingdom and lead to internal revolt as is currently happening in Egypt.OZONE said:
It isn't an oversimplification at all. It is clarity.doogsinparadise said:You like to oversimplify geopolitics, that's what you like to do.
The Israel lobby and the Saudi lobby both want us to hate Iran.
The religious right think it is their moral obligation to support god's chosen people and thus do whatever Israel wants; and the power brokers of the imported oil dependent economy think we need to do what the Saudis want, because "they are our friends".
With friends like the Saudis (backers of 9/11 and of IS)... who the fuck needs enemies?
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Iran has been the only thing propping up the genocidal Assad regime for the last 18 months, so good luck telling Syrian Sunnis who have fled the country that Iran is a paper tiger.
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You must not have heard of Russia.doogsinparadise said:Iran has been the only thing propping up the genocidal Assad regime for the last 18 months.
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Jaish is the new player that Saudi is propping up now. Before them, they were supporting IS, if not the official Kingdom, then wealthy Saudi citizens that live under the protection of the monarchy -- just like the wealthy Saudi supporters of 9/11. These wealthy citizens are still supporting the IS terrorists. But Iran is what the sheople worry about.doogsinparadise said:
Saudi supports Jaish not ISOZONE said:
It isn't an oversimplification at all. It is clarity.doogsinparadise said:You like to oversimplify geopolitics, that's what you like to do.
The Israel lobby and the Saudi lobby both want us to hate Iran.
The religious right think it is their moral obligation to support god's chosen people and thus do whatever Israel wants; and the power brokers of the imported oil dependent economy think we need to do what the Saudis want, because "they are our friends".
With friends like the Saudis (backers of 9/11 and of IS)... who the fuck needs enemies?
The "issue" of Iran is just to distract the sheople.
Saudi Arabia has always been a monarchy (tyranny) -- while Iran had a democracy (before the US oil fear mongers overthrew it).
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Fresh blood to throw into the hungry maw of battle is what counts, and until this week that role has been filled solely by Iran and Hizbullah. Weapons and money are nice, but then again Assad has always outgunned the opposition so that isn't the issue. You claim to find the Saudi monarchy problematic but have no issue with the theocrats in Iran? I tend to find more common ground with the average Persian, but common cultural ground shouldn't be the basis of a foreign policy.
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I couldn't agree more but until the younger generation can wrest the power from the ayatollahs , they will remain a huge threat to the region and the world with a nuke.HeretoBeatmyChest said:In 20 years Iran will be an ally of the US. It is a country with huge potential in the decades to come. It has excellent demographics and the young people are modernized, educated and very pro West. The old nutjobs there don't like the US because it overthrew their government and installed a tyrant. The young people have no recollection of that. In another decade or two the old nutjobs will be gone.
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Iran is an enemy irregardless of Saudi Arabia.
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Can't we all just get along?RaceBannon said:Iran is an enemy irregardless of Saudi Arabia.
