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Professors threaten bad grades for saying ‘illegal alien,’ ‘male,’ ‘female’

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,440 Founders Club
campusreform.org/?ID=6770

"Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    According to the syllabus for Selena Lester Breikss’ “Women & Popular Culture” class, students risk a failing grade if they use any common descriptors that Breikss considers “oppressive and hateful language.”

    Wow, male and female are hateful? Fuck her.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited August 2015

    campusreform.org/?ID=6770

    "Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

    You should share this with Trump and the Westboro Baptist Church.

    They are looking for new material to be outrage about.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,393
    I see a lawsuit coming:

    A) Students who unintentionally (or intentionally) fail to follow these professors' arbitrary rules receive lesser grades than they could've and they / parents are pissed so they sue.

    B) Freedom of speech advocates sue, detailing that banning words which are not considered hate speech is an infringement upon the 1st amendment.

    C) A state think-tank or foundation sues because the state government is providing aid (tax revenues) to a state institution that is restricting taxpayers' rights (parents' children).

    campusreform.org/?ID=6770

    "Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited August 2015
    HFNY said:

    I see a lawsuit coming:

    A) Students who unintentionally (or intentionally) fail to follow these professors' arbitrary rules receive lesser grades than they could've and they / parents are pissed so they sue.

    B) Freedom of speech advocates sue, detailing that banning words which are not considered hate speech is an infringement upon the 1st amendment.

    C) A state think-tank or foundation sues because the state government is providing aid (tax revenues) to a state institution that is restricting taxpayers' rights (parents' children).

    campusreform.org/?ID=6770

    "Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

    I doubt it. If a student signs of up for a gender studies course, they will be expected demonstrate that they understand the material -- and part of the material taught in a gender studies class is how the English language could be gender neutral.

    Your idea would be similar to a guy signing up for a French class and crying that he can't answer the questions in English.

    If students don't want to learn French, don't take a French class.

    If they don't want to learn the current thought in gender studies, then don't take a gender studies course.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Who cares what dykes and faggots in a gender studies class have to do? They took gender studies willingly. They are already fucked in life.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    WSU? More like White Supremacist University, smdh.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    edited August 2015
    HFNY said:

    I see a lawsuit coming:

    A) Students who unintentionally (or intentionally) fail to follow these professors' arbitrary rules receive lesser grades than they could've and they / parents are pissed so they sue.

    B) Freedom of speech advocates sue, detailing that banning words which are not considered hate speech is an infringement upon the 1st amendment.

    C) A state think-tank or foundation sues because the state government is providing aid (tax revenues) to a state institution that is restricting taxpayers' rights (parents' children).

    campusreform.org/?ID=6770

    "Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

    Suing WSU over this arbitrary bullshit makes the situation even worse. Every single person involved in this hypothetical lawsuit should be stoned to death. You could elect not to take these bullshit classes.
  • Hippopeteamus
    Hippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,958
    OZONE said:

    HFNY said:

    I see a lawsuit coming:

    A) Students who unintentionally (or intentionally) fail to follow these professors' arbitrary rules receive lesser grades than they could've and they / parents are pissed so they sue.

    B) Freedom of speech advocates sue, detailing that banning words which are not considered hate speech is an infringement upon the 1st amendment.

    C) A state think-tank or foundation sues because the state government is providing aid (tax revenues) to a state institution that is restricting taxpayers' rights (parents' children).

    campusreform.org/?ID=6770

    "Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

    I doubt it. If a student signs of up for a gender studies course, they will be expected demonstrate that they understand the material -- and part of the material taught in a gender studies class is how the English language could be gender neutral.

    Your idea would be similar to a guy signing up for a French class and crying that he can't answer the questions in English.

    If students don't want to learn French, don't take a French class.

    If they don't want to learn the current thought in gender studies, then don't take a gender studies course.
    But restricting the language does reveal an inherent refusal to allow for rational discourse in the classroom and is offensive to the very idea of a university. The teacher should try to convince the students through rational arguments, not threaten them with lower grades. It is shameful that this person is teaching at a university.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,440 Founders Club

    OZONE said:

    HFNY said:

    I see a lawsuit coming:

    A) Students who unintentionally (or intentionally) fail to follow these professors' arbitrary rules receive lesser grades than they could've and they / parents are pissed so they sue.

    B) Freedom of speech advocates sue, detailing that banning words which are not considered hate speech is an infringement upon the 1st amendment.

    C) A state think-tank or foundation sues because the state government is providing aid (tax revenues) to a state institution that is restricting taxpayers' rights (parents' children).

    campusreform.org/?ID=6770

    "Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

    I doubt it. If a student signs of up for a gender studies course, they will be expected demonstrate that they understand the material -- and part of the material taught in a gender studies class is how the English language could be gender neutral.

    Your idea would be similar to a guy signing up for a French class and crying that he can't answer the questions in English.

    If students don't want to learn French, don't take a French class.

    If they don't want to learn the current thought in gender studies, then don't take a gender studies course.
    But restricting the language does reveal an inherent refusal to allow for rational discourse in the classroom and is offensive to the very idea of a university. The teacher should try to convince the students through rational arguments, not threaten them with lower grades. It is shameful that this person is teaching at a university.
    It's more than one professor
  • Hippopeteamus
    Hippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,958

    OZONE said:

    HFNY said:

    I see a lawsuit coming:

    A) Students who unintentionally (or intentionally) fail to follow these professors' arbitrary rules receive lesser grades than they could've and they / parents are pissed so they sue.

    B) Freedom of speech advocates sue, detailing that banning words which are not considered hate speech is an infringement upon the 1st amendment.

    C) A state think-tank or foundation sues because the state government is providing aid (tax revenues) to a state institution that is restricting taxpayers' rights (parents' children).

    campusreform.org/?ID=6770

    "Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

    I doubt it. If a student signs of up for a gender studies course, they will be expected demonstrate that they understand the material -- and part of the material taught in a gender studies class is how the English language could be gender neutral.

    Your idea would be similar to a guy signing up for a French class and crying that he can't answer the questions in English.

    If students don't want to learn French, don't take a French class.

    If they don't want to learn the current thought in gender studies, then don't take a gender studies course.
    But restricting the language does reveal an inherent refusal to allow for rational discourse in the classroom and is offensive to the very idea of a university. The teacher should try to convince the students through rational arguments, not threaten them with lower grades. It is shameful that this person is teaching at a university.
    It's more than one professor
    I only read the headline...oh wait.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141

    OZONE said:

    HFNY said:

    I see a lawsuit coming:

    A) Students who unintentionally (or intentionally) fail to follow these professors' arbitrary rules receive lesser grades than they could've and they / parents are pissed so they sue.

    B) Freedom of speech advocates sue, detailing that banning words which are not considered hate speech is an infringement upon the 1st amendment.

    C) A state think-tank or foundation sues because the state government is providing aid (tax revenues) to a state institution that is restricting taxpayers' rights (parents' children).

    campusreform.org/?ID=6770

    "Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

    I doubt it. If a student signs of up for a gender studies course, they will be expected demonstrate that they understand the material -- and part of the material taught in a gender studies class is how the English language could be gender neutral.

    Your idea would be similar to a guy signing up for a French class and crying that he can't answer the questions in English.

    If students don't want to learn French, don't take a French class.

    If they don't want to learn the current thought in gender studies, then don't take a gender studies course.
    But restricting the language does reveal an inherent refusal to allow for rational discourse in the classroom and is offensive to the very idea of a university. The teacher should try to convince the students through rational arguments, not threaten them with lower grades. It is shameful that this person is teaching at a university.
    It is pretty wild that students pay a lot of money for the privilege of learning in such an environment.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,630 Standard Supporter
    I'm not saying the story is b.s., because all this seems very plausible nowadays, but upon a closer examination, the writer is a college sophomore... It seems like one of those right wing sites designed to outrage us (it worked).
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,393
    As @Hippopeteamus said,

    "But restricting the language does reveal an inherent refusal to allow for rational discourse in the classroom and is offensive to the very idea of a university. The teacher should try to convince the students through rational arguments, not threaten them with lower grades. It is shameful that this person is teaching at a university."

    Furthermore, one could also argue that these professorsFS are starting a slippery slope towards these type of crap standards permeating the rest of the University and becoming the norm?

    On the flip-side, what if a professor said you cannot use the terms "undocumented immigrant" or "migrant worker" and must use the term "illegal alien" in their class? What do you think the Loony Left would do, sit idly on their hands?

    HFNY said:

    I see a lawsuit coming:

    A) Students who unintentionally (or intentionally) fail to follow these professors' arbitrary rules receive lesser grades than they could've and they / parents are pissed so they sue.

    B) Freedom of speech advocates sue, detailing that banning words which are not considered hate speech is an infringement upon the 1st amendment.

    C) A state think-tank or foundation sues because the state government is providing aid (tax revenues) to a state institution that is restricting taxpayers' rights (parents' children).

    campusreform.org/?ID=6770

    "Multiple professors at Washington State University have explicitly told students their grades will suffer if they use terms such as “illegal alien,” "male," and “female,” or if they fail to “defer” to non-white students."

    Suing WSU over this arbitrary bullshit makes the situation even worse. Every single person involved in this hypothetical lawsuit should be stoned to death. You could elect not to take these bullshit classes.
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    edited August 2015
    https://news.wsu.edu/2015/08/31/public-statement-from-wsu-regarding-syllabi-issue/#.VeS6HIHn_qB

    Public statement from WSU regarding syllabi issue
    August 31, 2015
    PULLMAN, Wash. – Washington State University deeply values the tenets of freedom of expression for every member of our community, including all students, faculty and staff. Those First Amendment rights are reinforced in our policies, procedures and practices. Open dialogue, vigorous debate and the free exchange of ideas, as well as the language used to convey these ideas, are at the core of who we are as a higher education institution.
    Over the weekend, we became aware that some faculty members, in the interest of fostering a constructive climate for discussion, included language in class syllabi that has been interpreted as abridging students’ free speech rights. We are working with these faculty members to clarify, and in some cases modify, course policies to ensure that students’ free speech rights are recognized and protected. No student will have points docked merely as a result of using terms that may be deemed offensive to some. Blanket restriction of the use of certain terms is not consistent with the values upon which this university is founded.
    Free speech and a constructive climate for learning are not incompatible. We aim to cultivate diversity of expression while protecting individual rights and safety.
    To this end, we are asking all faculty members to take a moment to review their course policies to ensure that students’ right to freedom of expression is protected along with a safe and productive learning environment.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    Blackie said:

    https://news.wsu.edu/2015/08/31/public-statement-from-wsu-regarding-syllabi-issue/#.VeS6HIHn_qB

    Public statement from WSU regarding syllabi issue
    August 31, 2015
    PULLMAN, Wash. – Washington State University deeply values the tenets of freedom of expression for every member of our community, including all students, faculty and staff. Those First Amendment rights are reinforced in our policies, procedures and practices. Open dialogue, vigorous debate and the free exchange of ideas, as well as the language used to convey these ideas, are at the core of who we are as a higher education institution.
    Over the weekend, we became aware that some faculty members, in the interest of fostering a constructive climate for discussion, included language in class syllabi that has been interpreted as abridging students’ free speech rights. We are working with these faculty members to clarify, and in some cases modify, course policies to ensure that students’ free speech rights are recognized and protected. No student will have points docked merely as a result of using terms that may be deemed offensive to some. Blanket restriction of the use of certain terms is not consistent with the values upon which this university is founded.
    Free speech and a constructive climate for learning are not incompatible. We aim to cultivate diversity of expression while protecting individual rights and safety.
    To this end, we are asking all faculty members to take a moment to review their course policies to ensure that students’ right to freedom of expression is protected along with a safe and productive learning environment.

    TLDR: Sorry we hired some dumb fucks.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,279
    Part Time Faculty are always just the best.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    How about wetback?

    Funny you mention Operation Wetback

    http://m.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Muttzen said:

    What the fuck did you say about me, you cis white boy? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in gender studies, and I've been involved in numerous public raids on reddit, and I have banned over 300 misogynist shits. I am trained in not citing my sources and I'm the top land whale in the entire Tumblr army. You're nothing to me but another trigger. I will ban you the fuck out with butthurt the likes of which have never been seen on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with calling me a shitlord over the Internet? Think again, cis white boy. As we speak I'm contacting my secret network of landwhales all over #stopgamergate and your account is being rustled right now so you better prepare your jimmies, sexist pig. The media will biasly slander out the pathetic little thing you call a gender. You're fucking dead, rapist. I can be anywhere, anytime, and kill you with my massive fat folds, and that's just with my bare keyboard. Not only am I extensively trained in being triggered, I have access to the entire arsenal of Tumblr, and I will use it to its full extent to send death threats to your family all over the fucking Internet, fucking patriarchal bitch. If only you could have know what raging hormone filled butthurt your little "clever" comment was about to bring down on you, maybe you would have circumcised yourself. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn PTSD inducing troll. I will shitpost all over you and you will choke on your own injustice. You're fucking dead, cis boy.

    Also, this particular username is new, which suggests someone who is either plagiarizing or posing as multiple different people on the same board. I don't know the rules here, but in most communities that is a TOS violation.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,792 Standard Supporter

    Here's all I really need to know about gender/race studies:

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    Should read "I'm not white by injection"