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TCU and Offensive Improvement
RoadDawg55
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A preemptive fuck off to @Tequilla. Same QB, mostly same players and TCU went from 88th in scoring to 2nd in one year. Boykin was largely seen as a great athlete but shitty QB. New coordinators, new scheme, new attitude and he finishes 2nd in the Heisman. I've been on record saying this offensive system sucks and I openly question whether Petersen knows what he's doing on that side of the ball.
We lament about the talent, and it's not ideal, but the scheme matters. We've also said the head coach is all that matters, but I disagree. A position coach doesn't matter too much, but coordinator's do matter. Take advantage of the player's strength. Try and mask the weaknesses. Blaming it on the players didn't work for Ty, so why the fuck do poasters here do it for Peterman? I don't give a fuck who is playing for UW, finishing last in the conference is inexcusable. Not only should Smith have never been hired, he should have been fired for it. Even if he turns out to be decent, it's tough to imagine UW and a coach with Petersen's reputation couldn't do better.
Anyways, I thought this was an interesting read about a stunning improvement. The great coaches adapt and change when things are going downhill. Don James in the late 80's is the example at UW and Gary Patterson is another great example. Hopefully Petersen can do the same.
http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/08/17/tcu-horned-frogs-offense-gary-patterson-sonny-cumbie-doug-meacham
We lament about the talent, and it's not ideal, but the scheme matters. We've also said the head coach is all that matters, but I disagree. A position coach doesn't matter too much, but coordinator's do matter. Take advantage of the player's strength. Try and mask the weaknesses. Blaming it on the players didn't work for Ty, so why the fuck do poasters here do it for Peterman? I don't give a fuck who is playing for UW, finishing last in the conference is inexcusable. Not only should Smith have never been hired, he should have been fired for it. Even if he turns out to be decent, it's tough to imagine UW and a coach with Petersen's reputation couldn't do better.
Anyways, I thought this was an interesting read about a stunning improvement. The great coaches adapt and change when things are going downhill. Don James in the late 80's is the example at UW and Gary Patterson is another great example. Hopefully Petersen can do the same.
http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/08/17/tcu-horned-frogs-offense-gary-patterson-sonny-cumbie-doug-meacham
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We? I'm on record disagreeing with that as an absolute. Coordinators matter, as do recruiters, position coaches, the nutrition and S&C programs .... etc. It's the head coach's responsibility to make sure he hires good people, sets the tone and priorities, and coaches up his assistants. To that end, the head coach is all that matters, but the machine has a lot of important cogs.
And I don't expect a great offense, but it should be markedly improved despite whatever talent shortcomings.
Were the boys ready to rumble?
I agree with your take other than the head coach thing.
Peterman has to fix this
It actually gives me hope going forward. I trust Petersen to make tough decisions if he has to at the end of this year. And if he does have to fire Babushka and he makes the right hire, it is entirely possible to get better in a hurry.
We were so far behind the 8 ball at QB it was embarrassing. I feel bad for anyone that had to scheme an offense with that QB play.
Smith certainly didn't help the matter in the creativity department but when you have a qb who you can literally not count on to throw a simple pass 10 years downfield to a receiver running a route, you better have an awesome running game, which we didn't.
Again, not saying Smith was good last year-he wasn't, but there is at least a chance that trying to run a competent offense with Cyler at qb is akin to trying to get your porn career off the ground when you have a 1-inch dick.
Looking at who Petersen's Previous OC's:
Harsin: No prior OC experience, Boise had its best years under his tenure. He was OC from 2006-2010. Now their head coach.
(side note: Moore played from 2008-2011)
Pease: OC in 2011. Did well his one year in Boise (with senior Kellen Moore), then joined the Muschamp shitshow at Florida, so its difficult to say how good of an OC he is. He does seem polarizing to prior players. Had prior OC experience (Montana, NAU, Kentucky, Baylor). Now back with Pete as a WR coach, it seems Pete highly values his inner circle.
Prince: OC from 2012-2013. Statistically the team did okay in 2012, but the offense was not very good in 2013. Boise fans did not think highly of him. Was in the NFL as a position coach prior to his stint in Boise. Now with the Detroit Lions as a WR coach.
I'm surprised you're surprised.
As mediocre as bellotti was it was his proactive redefining of himself and reaching out for help that lead to him being less involved with the offense and hiring crowton and then chip Kelly (75k). Maybe Pete needs to take that approach. Another year like last year and I would say I am pretty sure that he is over his head or feels,zero urgency. This isn't the wac.