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Why young lineman will be fine playing early

For the first time in ages UW has a real S&C program. Kohler, Riva, etc would have been better off under Socha.

Socha earned a degree in kinesiology and a masters degree in exercise physiology. He was an OL in college. After that he spent his time in the weight room as an assistant S&C coach and then the head S&C coach. He's in his 10th year as head S&C coach.

Ivan's degrees were in education and leadership studies. He spent a lot of time as an assistant S&C coach but UW was his first time being the head S&C coach.

With Socha, I don't think we need to be worried about Adams and other guys playing early. If they get hurt they will have a S&C coach who can rehab and develop them properly. Socha is far superior to Ivan. He played (Ivan didn't), he studied the subject (Ivan didn't) and he has a lot more experience.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    So you are saying that you learn by doing? Noble concept
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    So you are saying that you learn by doing? Noble concept

    @TTJ will blow you up for posting that.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    Another thing to bring up is that Petersen and Socha have worked together since 2006, so Petersen knows what Socha can do and Socha knows what Petersen wants. If Petersen didn't want him, he would've been fired a long time ago. And it's worth noting that Petersen has made the S&C an emphasis from the first moment he arrived on campus.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    Socha was his first hire no?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    So you are saying that you learn by doing? Noble concept

    @TTJ will blow you up for posting that.
    As long as he doesn't take the gloves off ...
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    edited August 2015
    Gladstone said:

    doog, doog, doog your boat gently down the stream

    jesus christ

    reads like a purpledawgfan post

    sorry chest, i love you, but strongly disagree.

    Could make the argument that you are the closest thing to purpledawgfan on this bored with your freak outs, and YOU KNOW IT!!!11!! (I STILL LOVE YOU BY THE WAY *KISSYFACE*)

    Not saying you are wrong, or right, don't twist!
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    Maybe with run blocking. But pass pro goes beyond roids weights and being talented. That's where the smarts, the technique, the knowledge of the game and experience come in. Not just individually, but collectively too. Experience as a group matters with pass pro.

    Run block not so much, especially in zone blocking schemes. That's basically fire out and maul anyone that comes across your face mask.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,390
    That got some good belly laughs in my mom's basement.

    The best linemen tend to be the whack-jobs.

    I wish Adams could redshirt, but if he's good enough, he plays. He's a weirdo with a mullet that rides his bike in his boxers to Jimmy Johns. He gets in fights with upperclassmen at practice. He's from a shit hole (Wenatchee).

    He's built for this shit. And he's really good and I don't think it's typical undeserving hype. He's not wishing he wasn't 300 pounds and dreaming of catching some sick waves like Kohler.

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I like @Gladstone, I am just saying, that he is probably the most likely on this bored to commit suicide during a game. And it would be a random time during a game, like against an FCS team or something and UW is up by 30 with 8 minutes left in the game and UW runs a dumb play and Gladstone just decides to kill himself at that point because he has had enough.

    Sofuckingirritating.gif
  • RavennaDawg
    RavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    Tequilla said:

    So you are saying that you learn by doing? Noble concept

    Is a noble concept anything like a death nail?

    Irregardless, it's a mute point.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Who gives a fuck what the coach's qualifications are? That doesn't change the fact that these kids are true freshmen who have only spent about 6 months in an actual college S&C program. Linemen should be an automatic redshirt. Fucking stupid post.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Gladstone said:

    doog, doog, doog your boat gently down the stream

    jesus christ

    reads like a purpledawgfan post

    sorry chest, i love you, but strongly disagree.

    Could make the argument that you are the closest thing to purpledawgfan on this bored with your freak outs, and YOU KNOW IT!!!11!! (I STILL LOVE YOU BY THE WAY *KISSYFACE*)

    Not saying you are wrong, or right, don't twist!
    Will you two get a room already?
    This much delayed poodcast is going to be flooded with sexual tension. Chest better be careful eating dinner while recording, or it may sound x-rated.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    brchco12 said:

    Tequilla said:

    Gladstone said:

    doog, doog, doog your boat gently down the stream

    jesus christ

    reads like a purpledawgfan post

    sorry chest, i love you, but strongly disagree.

    Could make the argument that you are the closest thing to purpledawgfan on this bored with your freak outs, and YOU KNOW IT!!!11!! (I STILL LOVE YOU BY THE WAY *KISSYFACE*)

    Not saying you are wrong, or right, don't twist!
    Will you two get a room already?
    This much delayed poodcast is going to be flooded with sexual tension. Chest better be careful eating dinner while recording, or it may sound x-rated.
    Misses Chest's meatloaf....ntd, bb.
  • Dardanus
    Dardanus Member Posts: 2,623
    If a player is not physically ready he should redshirt. At least 81% of linemen are not physically ready as freshmen. For the few who are, play them if you need to.

    You shouldn't play them thinking they will probably get hurt, but we've got great rehab program so it will all be okay. That's Sark fucking shortsighted.

    If you think a lineman is physically ready, likely won't get hurt, and you absolutely need them, then you can play them.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,211
    PurpleJ said:

    Who gives a fuck what the coach's qualifications are?

    uh, me?

    but their qualifications aren't what's most important. what matters is whether or not they perform their jobs well. win or get the fuck out.

    if a 81 year old homeless granny, whose resume consists of McDonald's cashier, gives *the kids* the best roids and turns them into monsters, more power to her. if some fuck named Ivan with degrees and shit produces noodle-armed losers with the hotdog diet, then run him.

    that said, being well qualified for something is usually a pretty good indicator of good future performance.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    edited August 2015

    PurpleJ said:

    Who gives a fuck what the coach's qualifications are?

    uh, me?

    but their qualifications aren't what's most important. what matters is whether or not they perform their jobs well. win or get the fuck out.

    if a 81 year old homeless granny, whose resume consists of McDonald's cashier, gives *the kids* the best roids and turns them into monsters, more power to her. if some fuck named Ivan with degrees and shit produces noodle-armed losers with the hotdog diet, then run him.

    that said, being well qualified for something is usually a pretty good indicator of good future performance.
    You like to take things out of context. That's what you like to do. Coaching qualifications won't make a true frosh any more physically ready to play a whole season of D1 OL. So fuck off.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,211
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Who gives a fuck what the coach's qualifications are?

    uh, me?

    but their qualifications aren't what's most important. what matters is whether or not they perform their jobs well. win or get the fuck out.

    if a 81 year old homeless granny, whose resume consists of McDonald's cashier, gives *the kids* the best roids and turns them into monsters, more power to her. if some fuck named Ivan with degrees and shit produces noodle-armed losers with the hotdog diet, then run him.

    that said, being well qualified for something is usually a pretty good indicator of good future performance.
    You like to take things out of context. That's what you like to do. Coaching qualifications won't make a true frosh any more physically ready to play a whole season of D1 OL. So fuck off.
    Actually, good S&C coaching would make a huge difference. You're saying you wouldn't have more faith in a kid Socha has trained versus Ivan? Generally I agree with you regarding redshirting freshman lineman, but some scenarios do warrant playing them. If Adams is better than Shelton (likely), then fucking play him.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    In 6 months time? Fuck you are stupid.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    PurpleJ said:

    Who gives a fuck what the coach's qualifications are?

    uh, me?

    but their qualifications aren't what's most important. what matters is whether or not they perform their jobs well. win or get the fuck out.

    if a 81 year old homeless FRANNY, whose resume consists of McDonald's cashier, gives *the kids* the best roids and turns them into monsters, more power to her. if some fuck named Ivan with degrees and shit produces noodle-armed losers with the hotdog diet, then run him.

    that said, being well qualified for something is usually a pretty good indicator of good future performance.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,211
    PurpleJ said:

    In 6 months time? Fuck you are stupid.

    six months is plenty of time for a weightlifting program to make a difference in ones physique and strength

    not that you'd know anything about that
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    In 6 months time? Fuck you are stupid.

    six months is plenty of time for a weightlifting program to make a difference in ones physique and strength

    not that you'd know anything about that
    I still remember that selfie you posted, string bean. I'll let Socha know that you are available for advice on how to get his guys some quick gains.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,211
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    In 6 months time? Fuck you are stupid.

    six months is plenty of time for a weightlifting program to make a difference in ones physique and strength

    not that you'd know anything about that
    I still remember that selfie you posted, string bean. I'll let Socha know that you are available for advice on how to get his guys some quick gains.
    Great ad hominem as always.

    If Socha is who we think he is, he would have already taken to heart the advice i would give him a long time ago. Premium roids and a lot of fucking food.

    Judging by the transformation of Boise State's 1 star diamonds in the ruff to bad motherfuckers, we should be fine.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    In 6 months time? Fuck you are stupid.

    six months is plenty of time for a weightlifting program to make a difference in ones physique and strength

    not that you'd know anything about that
    I still remember that selfie you posted, string bean. I'll let Socha know that you are available for advice on how to get his guys some quick gains.
    Great ad hominem as always.
    I already won the argument. Again.

    Might as well go to personal attacks.