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well, this is fucked up. Court to set teacher compensation?????

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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    Interesting thread title. As the article states, the court is actually forcing lawmakers to resolve the education funding issue but "Court to set teacher compensation?????" is definitely a catchier, albeit, totally inaccurate title
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    I just read the headline.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    Interesting thread title. As the article states, the court is actually forcing lawmakers to resolve the education funding issue but "Court to set teacher compensation?????" is definitely a catchier, albeit, totally inaccurate title

    Yeah, I know. 5th paragraph... you just needed to dig a little deeper...

    In their order, justices took issue with lawmakers’ progress over ... the lack of a plan by the state to address teacher compensation.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508

    Interesting thread title. As the article states, the court is actually forcing lawmakers to resolve the education funding issue but "Court to set teacher compensation?????" is definitely a catchier, albeit, totally inaccurate title

    Yeah, I know. 5th paragraph... you just needed to dig a little deeper...

    In their order, justices took issue with lawmakers’ progress over ... the lack of a plan by the state to address teacher compensation.
    Yes, that is one of the education issues they are ordering the LEGISLATURE to figure out. The courts are not SETTING teachers compensation.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    The teachers have collectively bargained contracts. The Supreme Court for some mysterious reason has now placed themselves into that process
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club

    Teachers are heros and deserve to be making millions of dollars.

    Everybody says so.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Teachers are heros and deserve to be making millions of dollars.

    ALL TEACHERS
    REAL HEROES
    HANG TIME FOR
    WASHINGTON LEGISLATORS
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,804 Founders Club

    Teachers are heros and deserve to be making millions of dollars.

    I can't wait for the military to have to have bake sales
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,606 Standard Supporter
    The teachers in Washington State are compensated fine. The unions there are strong. If they want more money, let's try a 200 day school year like Japan.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    section8 said:

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    Teachers don't get 3 months paid vacation. They get a salary for 190 days of work and it gets divided up into 12 months.

    HTH
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,804 Founders Club

    section8 said:

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    Teachers don't get 3 months paid vacation. They get a salary for 190 days of work and it gets divided up into 12 months.

    HTH
    How long have you been a teacher?
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508

    section8 said:

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    Teachers don't get 3 months paid vacation. They get a salary for 190 days of work and it gets divided up into 12 months.

    HTH
    How long have you been a teacher?
    Long enough to know how the salary works
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    #threehundredsixtyfiveminusonehundredninetyequals
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    section8 said:

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    Teachers don't get 3 months paid vacation. They get a salary for 190 days of work and it gets divided up into 12 months.

    HTH
    When you work 60 fewer days per year than most people, you're getting three months (20 working days per month) of extra vacation.

    Did you teach Vernon Adams math in school?
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508

    section8 said:

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    Teachers don't get 3 months paid vacation. They get a salary for 190 days of work and it gets divided up into 12 months.

    HTH
    When you work 60 fewer days per year than most people, you're getting three months (20 working days per month) of extra vacation.

    Did you teach Vernon Adams math in school?
    You are really stupid. Teachers sign contracts for 9 months of work, not 12. The money earned during those 9 months is spread over 12 so while teachers are working, they are being paid less than they actually earned because some of that money will be given to them over the summer. 3 months paid vacation would mean they are given additional salary to do nothing, which is not true. Coaching stipends work the same way. You work for 3 or 4 months but it is broken down and paid out over 12 months. As a coach, I didn't get 8 months of paid vacation. If you're too dumb to understand this, I can't help you.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    edited August 2015

    section8 said:

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    Teachers don't get 3 months paid vacation. They get a salary for 190 days of work and it gets divided up into 12 months.

    HTH
    When you work 60 fewer days per year than most people, you're getting three months (20 working days per month) of extra vacation.

    Did you teach Vernon Adams math in school?
    You are really stupid. Teachers sign contracts for 9 months of work, not 12.
    CHRIST. You just made my point for me.

    Teachers get paid vacation just like the rest of us, they just get three months of it.

    They are overpaid for being 3/4 time employees.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508

    section8 said:

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    Teachers don't get 3 months paid vacation. They get a salary for 190 days of work and it gets divided up into 12 months.

    HTH
    When you work 60 fewer days per year than most people, you're getting three months (20 working days per month) of extra vacation.

    Did you teach Vernon Adams math in school?
    You are really stupid. Teachers sign contracts for 9 months of work, not 12.
    CHRIST. You just made my point for me.
    And they get paid for 9 months of work, not 12. How do you not understand this? Is it the concept of "paid vacation" you don't understand or do you not understand how salaries work? I'm Guessing you've never had a job that had either
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    section8 said:

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    Teachers don't get 3 months paid vacation. They get a salary for 190 days of work and it gets divided up into 12 months.

    HTH
    When you work 60 fewer days per year than most people, you're getting three months (20 working days per month) of extra vacation.

    Did you teach Vernon Adams math in school?
    You are really stupid. Teachers sign contracts for 9 months of work, not 12.
    CHRIST. You just made my point for me.
    And they get paid for 9 months of work, not 12. How do you not understand this? Is it the concept of "paid vacation" you don't understand or do you not understand how salaries work? I'm Guessing you've never had a job that had either
    You just told me that they get paid all 12 months of the year. 9 months of work, 3 months of paid vacation.

    I've had a REAL job with paid vacation for 15 years now. I know how it works.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    Ok boobs. I'm worried about you passing the SBAC so we're going down to the special ed math class where they break things down.

    A - The teacher is paid $1 a month per his salary.
    The teacher works 9 months out of a 12 month year.
    The teacher earns a salary of $9.
    If you divide $9 / 12 months, you get the teachers monthly pay

    B - Another teacher works at an imaginary school that gives "free paid vacation" for the 3 months he is not working.
    He also gets $1 a month for salary.
    He gets $9 for his 9 months of work and then gets $3 for the months he is not working - his "free paid vacation"
    This teacher makes $12 for 9 months of work and 3 months of paid vacation.

    Scenario A is the way teacher salaries work. Teachers get the $9.

  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    Another scenario:

    Let's say I agreed to pay you $12 for mowing my lawn on Monday. You mow my lawn and I give you $9 and tell you to come back tomorrow for the other $3. You come back, you don't do any lawn mowing but I give you the $3 I owe you. Did I give you payment for doing no work? No, I just gave you the money you already worked for. That's how teacher summers work. They give you the money you already earned. When you take a paid vacation, you don't do anything but you get paid for a full day's work anyways.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Ok boobs. I'm worried about you passing the SBAC so we're going down to the special ed math class where they break things down.

    A - The teacher is paid $1 a month per his salary.
    The teacher works 9 months out of a 12 month year.
    The teacher earns a salary of $9.
    If you divide $9 / 12 months, you get the teachers monthly pay


    Even Vernon Adams thinks you really suck at math.

    9/12 is 0.75, not 1.

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Another scenario:

    Let's say I agreed to pay you $12 for mowing my lawn on Monday. You mow my lawn and I give you $9 and tell you to come back tomorrow for the other $3. You come back, you don't do any lawn mowing but I give you the $3 I owe you. Did I give you payment for doing no work? No, I just gave you the money you already worked for. That's how teacher summers work. They give you the money you already earned. When you take a paid vacation, you don't do anything but you get paid for a full day's work anyways.

    I punch you in the FACE and break your jaw in this scenario.

    If you have to use the Sark tactic of inventing bullshit hypothetical situations to make your argument, you've already admitted defeat.

    At least you know why the rest of us hate you Section 14a Fucking Stupid teachers now.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508

    Ok boobs. I'm worried about you passing the SBAC so we're going down to the special ed math class where they break things down.

    A - The teacher is paid $1 a month per his salary.
    The teacher works 9 months out of a 12 month year.
    The teacher earns a salary of $9.
    If you divide $9 / 12 months, you get the teachers monthly pay


    Even Vernon Adams thinks you really suck at math.

    9/12 is 0.75, not 1.

    No shit. I'm making the point that teachers are not paid for 12 months of the year. They are paid for 9.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    edited August 2015

    Another scenario:

    Let's say I agreed to pay you $12 for mowing my lawn on Monday. You mow my lawn and I give you $9 and tell you to come back tomorrow for the other $3. You come back, you don't do any lawn mowing but I give you the $3 I owe you. Did I give you payment for doing no work? No, I just gave you the money you already worked for. That's how teacher summers work. They give you the money you already earned. When you take a paid vacation, you don't do anything but you get paid for a full day's work anyways.

    I punch you in the FACE and break your jaw in this scenario.

    If you have to use the Sark tactic of inventing bullshit hypothetical situations to make your argument, you've already admitted defeat.

    At least you know why the rest of us hate you Section 14a Fucking Stupid teachers now.
    I'll take your angry outburst and calling me Sark as you finally realizing I'm right. I'm sorry it took so long. It's not really a difficult concept to grasp
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    I'm not the one arguing that getting paid during a vacation is hypothetically different than a paid vacation. You are.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Ok boobs. I'm worried about you passing the SBAC so we're going down to the special ed math class where they break things down.

    A - The teacher is paid $1 a month per his salary.
    The teacher works 9 months out of a 12 month year.
    The teacher earns a salary of $9.
    If you divide $9 / 12 months, you get the teachers monthly pay


    Even Vernon Adams thinks you really suck at math.

    9/12 is 0.75, not 1.

    No shit. I'm making the point that teachers are not paid for 12 months of the year. They are paid for 9.
    Then why do they get paid during their vacations?