Comprehensive, 25-year list of every Husky football player who truly excelled as a true frosh.
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Congratulations. You officially know more about CFB than Jimbo Fisher, Chip Kelly, Mike Riley, Art Briles, Rick Neuheisel, and Pat Fitzgerald. Those are the morons who "wasted" the would-be true frosh brilliance of Winston, Mariota, Mannion, Petty, Hundley, and Siemian, respectively.Doogles said:Your research is only relevant if the players that redshirted stayed Their full-allotment of eligibility. That's pretty much the only thing you can argue. No shit a player in that 5th year is better than the 4th year. If you don't get the 5th year it's arguable the RS JR year would have featured a better version of that talented player if they had spent year 1 getting game experience vs. scout team reps.
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You don't get it.TTJ said:
Congratulations. You officially know more about CFB than Jimbo Fisher, Chip Kelly, Mike Riley, Art Briles, Rick Neuheisel, and Pat Fitzgerald. Those are the morons who "wasted" the would-be true frosh brilliance of Winston, Mariota, Mannion, Petty, Hundley, and Siemian, respectively.Doogles said:Your research is only relevant if the players that redshirted stayed Their full-allotment of eligibility. That's pretty much the only thing you can argue. No shit a player in that 5th year is better than the 4th year. If you don't get the 5th year it's arguable the RS JR year would have featured a better version of that talented player if they had spent year 1 getting game experience vs. scout team reps.
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Nope.
How about this: Name five QBs in the history of CFB who were worth a damn as true frosh.
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Flagged for implying that Fisher, Riley, and Fitzgerald are good coaches.TTJ said:
Congratulations. You officially know more about CFB than Jimbo Fisher, Chip Kelly, Mike Riley, Art Briles, Rick Neuheisel, and Pat Fitzgerald. Those are the morons who "wasted" the would-be true frosh brilliance of Winston, Mariota, Mannion, Petty, Hundley, and Siemian, respectively.Doogles said:Your research is only relevant if the players that redshirted stayed Their full-allotment of eligibility. That's pretty much the only thing you can argue. No shit a player in that 5th year is better than the 4th year. If you don't get the 5th year it's arguable the RS JR year would have featured a better version of that talented player if they had spent year 1 getting game experience vs. scout team reps.
Damn, you're smart.
Also, Neuheisel got himself fired for keeping Hundley redshirted.
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Perhaps after witnessing the dumpster fire that was Cody Pickett's true frosh garbage time appearance in Corvallis in '99.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Also, Neuheisel got himself fired for keeping Hundley redshirted.
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Why don't you hate @ArtBriles?????TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Flagged for implying that Fisher, Riley, and Fitzgerald are good coaches.TTJ said:
Congratulations. You officially know more about CFB than Jimbo Fisher, Chip Kelly, Mike Riley, Art Briles, Rick Neuheisel, and Pat Fitzgerald. Those are the morons who "wasted" the would-be true frosh brilliance of Winston, Mariota, Mannion, Petty, Hundley, and Siemian, respectively.Doogles said:Your research is only relevant if the players that redshirted stayed Their full-allotment of eligibility. That's pretty much the only thing you can argue. No shit a player in that 5th year is better than the 4th year. If you don't get the 5th year it's arguable the RS JR year would have featured a better version of that talented player if they had spent year 1 getting game experience vs. scout team reps.
Damn, you're smart.
Also, Neuheisel got himself fired for keeping Hundley redshirted.
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I don't need to look far to find guys with great careers that played True Frosh year because they were the best players available. I like to redshirt guys when they aren't the best option, it seems wasteful to burn a shirt over a few plays. But if you're half done through the season and you can get better production from a kid, you play him.
Carson Palmer and Matt Barkley were the best options and had great careers.
Tui's career was fantastic and ended in a rose bowl championship.
Mason Rudolph just beat us in the Cactus Bowl. He was on pace to redshirt until the last 3 games when Gundy realized the better QB was sitting on the Bench. He battled against Baylor in his debut, upset Oklahoma, than beat the fuck out of us. Saved their season and now everyone is gizzing in their pants about his potential.
Goff is the best QB in the Pac, complete stud.
There's five without any research. Most of the great QBs go to great programs that already have great qb upperclassmen starting.
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You're proving my point. All of those guys became good QBs later. But none of them was good as a true frosh. None of them contributed a fraction as much to their teams in Year One that he would have contributed in a Year Five. Which is what makes the redshirt, in the face of a possible early exit later, a calculated risk worth making.
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They contributed to more wins in year 1 than if they hadn't played in year 1. You don't sacrifice a season for a hypothetical down the road. That year of lumps prepared them for the greatness ahead. Game experience can't be replicated. Ideally the program should be sturdy enough to not need these kids to step in.
AGAIN, i'm all for redshirting and players definitely develop on the sideline, but you can't have your best player at a position watching because he might be around to be something special his 5th year.
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What the fuck did I just read?
