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Comprehensive, 25-year list of every Husky football player who truly excelled as a true frosh.

TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
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Reggie Williams.
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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Take THAT Dante Pettis and Brayden Lenius! You guys haven't proven anything against the upper tier of the Pac-12 yet!!! Guffaw, guffaw.

    On a serious note, this poast should be stickied.
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  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,627 Founders Club
    Kaufman, Bruener, String, String, Donald Butler
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  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
    Other true frosh who were adequate, or roughly equal in quality to the veteran(s) they were displacing:

    Mark Bruener
    Napoleon Kaufman
    Sidney Jones

    Other true frosh who were promising but ineffective:

    Marques Tuiasosopo
    Charles Frederick
    Budda Baker
    Shaq Thompson
    Danny Shelton
    Demorea Stringfellow

    Other huge talents who basically sucked as true frosh:

    Bishop Sankey
    Chris Polk
    Jermaine Kearse
    Darrell Daniels

    Who am I forgetting?

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  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,627 Founders Club
    TTJ said:

    Other true frosh who were adequate, or roughly equal in quality to the veteran(s) they were displacing:

    Mark Bruener
    Napoleon Kaufman
    Sidney Jones

    Other true frosh who were promising but ineffective:

    Marques Tuiasosopo
    Charles Frederick
    Budda Baker
    Shaq Thompson
    Danny Shelton
    Demorea Stringfellow

    Other huge talents who basically sucked as true frosh:

    Bishop Sankey
    Chris Polk
    Jermaine Kearse
    Darrell Daniels

    Who am I forgetting?

    Kohler and Porter
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  • RavennaDawgRavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    edited July 2015
    How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

    None.

    edit: and your list is missing the former IMA boxing champ
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  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
    RavennaDawg said:

    How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

    None.

    Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
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  • RavennaDawgRavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    Just to be clear, your two points are:

    1) Even if Browning is the best qb, he should redshirt because 2019.

    2) Players improve just as much by sitting on the bench and observing as they do actually playing in games.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812
    Add Kasen to the "promising but ineffective list". Probably ASJ too.
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  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
    @dnc has this thread dialed in. Hell, I'd probably put ASJ in the Reggie category, and I'd put everybody else he's named into my second and third tiers.

    Conceding every one of those guys, I think the point is abundantly clear: True frosh suck, as a general rule. The fact so few exceptions can be named in a 25-year period proves this point beyond debate.

    Anybody who thinks Browning would contribute anything in 2015 close to what he would contribute in 2019 deserves another Owen12.
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  • RavennaDawgRavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    TTJ said:


    RavennaDawg said:

    How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

    None.

    Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
    You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

    As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.


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  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,627 Founders Club
    Reggie, Shaq, Asj, Sankey, Polk, all left early. Add Peters to the mix and it's clear to see the good guys aren't sticking around anyway. Butler and Shelton were the only guys who came back for their senior year who were supremely talented.
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  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
    RavennaDawg said:

    TTJ said:


    RavennaDawg said:

    How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

    None.

    Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
    You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

    As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.


    Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
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  • RavennaDawgRavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    TTJ said:

    RavennaDawg said:

    TTJ said:


    RavennaDawg said:

    How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

    None.

    Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
    You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

    As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.


    Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
    No twisting at all. And you are correct it ain't complicated.

    I think you honestly think Baker did not help his development by playing last year. You sincerely believe that.

    Playing when you have the ability to contribute accelerates your development.

    The best players should play.

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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    TTJ said:

    RavennaDawg said:

    TTJ said:


    RavennaDawg said:

    How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

    None.

    Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
    You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

    As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.


    Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
    Redshirting hurts your team when players leave without playing their redshirt senior seasons.
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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    I never really had an opinion on @RavennaDawg before now...

    Now I think 2 things:

    1) Ravenna is a nice neighborhood.
    2) @RavennaDawg is a serious butt-hurt presser.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    If you think Browning will play for UW in 2019, you think he and Peterman both suck.

    Hope this helps.
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  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,821
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    TTJ said:

    RavennaDawg said:

    TTJ said:


    RavennaDawg said:

    How many of those players would have been better in their second year in the program had they spent their first year on the bench and not getting actual game experience?

    None.

    Yes, redshirting really seemed to set Lawyer Milloy back.
    You really think he would have been worse in 1993 had he played in 1992? And he left after 4 years.

    As good as he was is 1993, I bet if you ask him he will say he would have been even more prepared had he seen the field some in 1992.


    Lotta twisting going on here. Ain't complicated. Redshirting hurts nobody. And it helps a lot of guys.
    Redshirting hurts your team when players leave without playing their redshirt senior seasons.
    I agree. Problem is, at UW anyway, this is nearly as rare as the true frosh who doesn't suck. Neither circumstance occurs frequently enough to outweigh the huge systemic benefits of routinely redshirting guys.
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  • RaccoonHarryRaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    No list is compete without Ossai
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  • steelheader2steelheader2 Member Posts: 372
    Olin kruetz. Played quite a bit and sideline reporter bill Swartz would always comment " the freshman Kruetz is really moving people around". I asked Lester towns at picture day Before season " who is impressing you". He said " Olin Kruetz, when he gets a hold of you you're going down".
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