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Comprehensive, 25-year list of every Husky football player who truly excelled as a true frosh.

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  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    TTJ said:

    Reggie Williams.

    Paul arnold and his kick off return deserve at least partial credit right?
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  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    RavennaDawg said:

    The comparison is not between rs-frosh vs true frosh. It is between rs-frosh and true sophs. You are the only person on this bored that believes Baker and Jones and Dissly would have been equally prepared for 2015 had they red shirted last year vs actually playing last year.

    Teams redshirt players because most true frosh are not good enough to earn playing time. Coach James redshirted nearly all of his frosh, yet the majority of his first round picks did not redshirt. Because they were really, really good.

    The goal is to get a team that is so deep, few, if any, true frosh can crack the depth chart. And as Coach James showed, in the rare instances where the true frosh are good enough to crack the depth chart, you play them. If Browning emerges from fall camp as the best qb, play him. If Lindquist or ACS is the best, you play them.

    James had ten first-rounders. I count two who didn't redshirt.

    Teams redshirt players because 19YO freshmen are stronger and execute better than 18YO freshmen; 23YO seniors are stronger and better than 22YO seniors.

    Dissly. That's rich.
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  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    I think those guys would have even better as true sophomores.

    Yeah, I caught that. How are those citations coming along?
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    TTJ said:

    RavennaDawg said:

    The comparison is not between rs-frosh vs true frosh. It is between rs-frosh and true sophs. You are the only person on this bored that believes Baker and Jones and Dissly would have been equally prepared for 2015 had they red shirted last year vs actually playing last year.

    Teams redshirt players because most true frosh are not good enough to earn playing time. Coach James redshirted nearly all of his frosh, yet the majority of his first round picks did not redshirt. Because they were really, really good.

    The goal is to get a team that is so deep, few, if any, true frosh can crack the depth chart. And as Coach James showed, in the rare instances where the true frosh are good enough to crack the depth chart, you play them. If Browning emerges from fall camp as the best qb, play him. If Lindquist or ACS is the best, you play them.

    James had ten first-rounders. I count two who didn't redshirt.

    Teams redshirt players because 19YO freshmen are stronger and execute better than 18YO freshmen; 23YO seniors are stronger and better than 22YO seniors.

    Dissly. That's rich.
    First rounders don't stay for five years in the 21st century.

    Hope this helps.
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  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    First rounders don't stay for five years in the 21st century.

    Hope this helps.

    Of the seven QBs drafted in 2015, only one (Garrett Grayson) didn't redshirt. Next?
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,865 Founders Club
    TTJ said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    First rounders don't stay for five years in the 21st century.

    Hope this helps.

    Of the seven QBs drafted in 2015, only one (Garrett Grayson) didn't redshirt. Next?
    Your research is only relevant if the players that redshirted stayed Their full-allotment of eligibility. That's pretty much the only thing you can argue. No shit a player in that 5th year is better than the 4th year. If you don't get the 5th year it's arguable the RS JR year would have featured a better version of that talented player if they had spent year 1 getting game experience vs. scout team reps.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,140 Founders Club
    Are we done here?
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    TTJ said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    First rounders don't stay for five years in the 21st century.

    Hope this helps.

    Of the seven QBs drafted in 2015, only one (Garrett Grayson) didn't redshirt. Next?
    How many of them were redshirt seniors?

    Those that weren't had years wasted.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    FreeChavez said:

    TTJ said:

    Reggie Williams.

    Paul arnold and his kick off return deserve at least partial credit right?
    FreeChavez said:

    TTJ said:

    Reggie Williams.

    @JawarrenJaHooker and his kick off return deserve at least partial credit right?
    alternate version
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    RavennaDawg said:

    Just to be clear, your two points are:

    1) Even if Browning is the best qb, he should redshirt because 2019.

    2) Players improve just as much by sitting on the bench and observing as they do actually playing in games.

    P'shaw!!!!

    Browning will be a 1st rd draft pick in 2019 if left to languish on the bench with a red jersey.

    Study the damn script.
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