Roof Think Browning Should Start

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

TTJ said:

There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.

[citation needed]

Since he made it up, he will have difficulty finding a citation.

I remember watching Kaufman in 1992, thinking "Wow, he is really good. Think how much better he would be if he had spent last year sitting on the bench and this was his first year playing. And I would feel more comfortable with Bruener if he had not caught that td in the Rose Bowl last year."

Do people sincerely think Tui learned nothing from 1997 that he could have learned simply from watching from the sideline? Are Baker and Dissly are less prepared for 2015 because they played last year?

Playing prepares you for playing.

seatownfunk said:

What if Mario and Orlando redshirted???? 1992 could have been special.

Orlando sucked. HTH.

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

TTJ said:

There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.

[citation needed]

If you need citations to understand that true frosh suck as a general rule, I cannot help you. Re-watching the past twenty years of Husky football would be a good start. Or perhaps re-reading this thread.

TTJ said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

TTJ said:

There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.

[citation needed]

If you need citations to understand that true frosh suck as a general rule, I cannot help you. Re-watching the past twenty years of Husky football would be a good start. Or perhaps re-reading this thread.

That's some dark shit man. You have me wondering if I even want to keep poasting here.

TTJ said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

TTJ said:

There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.

[citation needed]

If you need citations to understand that true frosh suck as a general rule, I cannot help you. Re-watching the past twenty years of Husky football would be a good start. Or perhaps re-reading this thread.

"mountain of evidence". lol

You want your program to be in a position where your talent level is such that very few true freshmen are talented enough to contribute. Coach James did not play very few true freshmen because of some obsession with redshirting; he played very few true freshmen because only players like Fenney, Bailey, Smith, Kaufman were good enough to see the field.

No one except Lambo redshirted for the sake of redshirting, and Olson left early anyway.

Seriously, do think Baker and Dissly will be less prepared for 2015 vs the rest of their class because they played last year?

Peterman has never played a true frosh lineman. And he has never had a true frosh lineman able to make an impact like Trey Adams, which is why Adams will likely be Peterman's first ever true frosh lineman to play.

Don't be afraid to play the best players.

TTJ said:

There is a mountain of evidence that playing true frosh is fool's gold. (At any position, much less QB.) And zero evidence that redshirting somehow retards a player's development.

This is so astonishingly uncomplicated.

Play the best players today to win the most you can today is how I see it. That's how most coaches tend to see it when asked about RS'ing. That's as uncomplicated as it gets.

At most programs - that usually involves redshirting all lineman and QBs. But sometimes it doesn't.

Otherwise you are necessarily saying wins in 2019 > wins in 2015.

@BallSacked if a true frosh truly gives you a better chance to win, then I'd agree to play him. Where we disagree is with the assumption that Browning (or any other guy in the incoming class, with the possible exceptions of a couple ST guys like Chico or the LS guy) actually gives you that. True frosh are almost uniformly terrible, as detailed here and elsewhere.

The smart money is almost always with redshirting.

AZDuck said:

BallSacked said:

dnc said:

Doogles said:

Saying a guy at the QB position is worth 2-3 wins relative to their backup is not the same thing as saying John Ross is worth 2-3 wins.

I'm sure Oregon would agree Dennis Dixon's knee was worth 2-3 wins.

How many true frosh qbs have ever been worth 3 wins? Brownings not going to be the third to fourth all time.

Josh Rosen.

LOL, wut?

I've been quooking hard WRT Big Play VA, but wow

huh?

I think Josh Rosen is worth about 2 or 3 wins because Jerry Neu would go about 6-6 if he started this year.

What the fuck kind of QB drought is there in the Pac 12 when Jerry Neuheisel at UCLA, Jeff Lockie at UO, and [INSERT NAME HERE] at UW are the "experienced" backups?

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

AZDuck said:

What the fuck kind of QB drought is there in the Pac 12 when Jerry Neuheisel at UCLA, Jeff Lockie at UO, and [INSERT NAME HERE] at UW are the "experienced" backups?

The quarterbacking was terribad last year for the most part.

It wasnt SEC level bad, but it was bad.

RoadDawg55 said:

...I wasn't aware that Jeff Lindquist and KJCS weren't terrible. If you think a guy that was worse than Cyler Miles from day one at UW and couldn't complete a pass against Hawaii is likely to be decent, you may be the biggest doog of all time. The one that is the least terrible should and will play...

Your eyes are as good as mine, okay?