Immigrant Recovery...
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NTD, BB.PurpleJ said:
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He's currently staring at it to try and figure out a way to flip it in his favor.greenblood said:I can't wait to see how Clinton *cough *cough Honda responds to the new data. And yes the Center of Immigration Studies was my source
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Vuelvo enseguida , la masturbaciónCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
NTD, BB.PurpleJ said: -
*vuelvo prontoPurpleJ said:
Vuelvo enseguida , la masturbaciónCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
NTD, BB.PurpleJ said: -
As an old cab driver once told me in San Diego - illegal or legal, there's just too damn many of them
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Ok, so there's a net 25,000 from Mexico, central, and south america. Out of over 300 million people. I would imagine most people from south america get here by plane or whatever, not through Mexico, but whatever. And keep in mind, your chart also includes legal immigrants.greenblood said:2001400ex said:
Great, then show me that support.greenblood said:
You do realize that immigrants from guatemala, el salvador, belize, nicaragua, honduras, panama, colombia, venezuela, etc. use the Mexico/US border to get to the US as well? And that these immigrants make up a large portion of the illigal migration, which would not show up on your fancy little graph.2001400ex said:Ok, fair point. Generally zero hedge is FS.. But another point I want to make. There's been roughly zero migration from Mexico the last 4 years.
Here's the chart showing the trend, but this stops at 2011.
Then what about after 2011?
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/22/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-zero-net-migration-mexico-2010/
Clinton said that between 2010 and 2014, there was zero net in-migration from Mexico. The census data to prove that is not in for 2014, but the numbers up to 2013 support his point, as do very preliminary 2014 data.The population of people living in America but born in Mexico fell by about 40,000 since 2010. That’s not a perfect measure, but the experts we reached said it is a strong indication of a prevailing trend.
Yes we need border security, and yes illegal immigrants are an issue and always will be an issue. But it seems like the incredible growth in illegals has ceased. So it appears if we build a fence, we actually would be holding the immigrants in our country.
I know, but still............................
Not as much as I thought, but you can still see that while Mexico is trending down, you are still seing an increase in the South American and Central American immigrant population. If you add the net change to the Mexican population net change, you get a net positive. So no, border security is still a major problem.
Like I said, it's an issue for sure. But I find it comical that is being magnified as a much bigger issue than it should be, and basically just killed the Latino vote. The same exact reason Sean hannity said after the 2012 election that he's evolved and believes in a path to citizenship. -
2001400ex said:
Ok, so there's a net 25,000 from Mexico, central, and south america. Out of over 300 million people. I would imagine most people from south america get here by plane or whatever, not through Mexico, but whatever. And keep in mind, your chart also includes legal immigrants.greenblood said:2001400ex said:
Great, then show me that support.greenblood said:
You do realize that immigrants from guatemala, el salvador, belize, nicaragua, honduras, panama, colombia, venezuela, etc. use the Mexico/US border to get to the US as well? And that these immigrants make up a large portion of the illigal migration, which would not show up on your fancy little graph.2001400ex said:Ok, fair point. Generally zero hedge is FS.. But another point I want to make. There's been roughly zero migration from Mexico the last 4 years.
Here's the chart showing the trend, but this stops at 2011.
Then what about after 2011?
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/22/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-zero-net-migration-mexico-2010/
Clinton said that between 2010 and 2014, there was zero net in-migration from Mexico. The census data to prove that is not in for 2014, but the numbers up to 2013 support his point, as do very preliminary 2014 data.The population of people living in America but born in Mexico fell by about 40,000 since 2010. That’s not a perfect measure, but the experts we reached said it is a strong indication of a prevailing trend.
Yes we need border security, and yes illegal immigrants are an issue and always will be an issue. But it seems like the incredible growth in illegals has ceased. So it appears if we build a fence, we actually would be holding the immigrants in our country.
I know, but still............................
Not as much as I thought, but you can still see that while Mexico is trending down, you are still seing an increase in the South American and Central American immigrant population. If you add the net change to the Mexican population net change, you get a net positive. So no, border security is still a major problem.
Like I said, it's an issue for sure. But I find it comical that is being magnified as a much bigger issue than it should be, and basically just killed the Latino vote. The same exact reason Sean hannity said after the 2012 election that he's evolved and believes in a path to citizenship.
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For my clarification, VE, LM, P = NTB, BB = BRB, JO ?????greenblood said:
*vuelvo prontoPurpleJ said:
Vuelvo enseguida , la masturbaciónCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
NTD, BB.PurpleJ said:
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First you argued a decrease in Mexican immigrants and I successfully argued why your logic is skewed. A nice tap dance though of trying to cover up your cherry picked use of data.2001400ex said:
Ok, so there's a net 25,000 from Mexico, central, and south america. Out of over 300 million people. I would imagine most people from south america get here by plane or whatever, not through Mexico, but whatever. And keep in mind, your chart also includes legal immigrants.greenblood said:2001400ex said:
Great, then show me that support.greenblood said:
You do realize that immigrants from guatemala, el salvador, belize, nicaragua, honduras, panama, colombia, venezuela, etc. use the Mexico/US border to get to the US as well? And that these immigrants make up a large portion of the illigal migration, which would not show up on your fancy little graph.2001400ex said:Ok, fair point. Generally zero hedge is FS.. But another point I want to make. There's been roughly zero migration from Mexico the last 4 years.
Here's the chart showing the trend, but this stops at 2011.
Then what about after 2011?
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/22/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-zero-net-migration-mexico-2010/
Clinton said that between 2010 and 2014, there was zero net in-migration from Mexico. The census data to prove that is not in for 2014, but the numbers up to 2013 support his point, as do very preliminary 2014 data.The population of people living in America but born in Mexico fell by about 40,000 since 2010. That’s not a perfect measure, but the experts we reached said it is a strong indication of a prevailing trend.
Yes we need border security, and yes illegal immigrants are an issue and always will be an issue. But it seems like the incredible growth in illegals has ceased. So it appears if we build a fence, we actually would be holding the immigrants in our country.
I know, but still............................
Not as much as I thought, but you can still see that while Mexico is trending down, you are still seing an increase in the South American and Central American immigrant population. If you add the net change to the Mexican population net change, you get a net positive. So no, border security is still a major problem.
Like I said, it's an issue for sure. But I find it comical that is being magnified as a much bigger issue than it should be, and basically just killed the Latino vote. The same exact reason Sean hannity said after the 2012 election that he's evolved and believes in a path to citizenship.
Second being for Illegal immigrants in order to get their vote is exactly what is wrong with this country. It's the very example of how the left uses race and guilt to increase power. And why you are everything that is wrong with the left and shows your lack of morality, as you want to use race for the sole purpose of strengthening your political stance. You are a worthless puppet of the abuse of power.
