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Thoughts on our defense
PhilBleenor
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Juggernaut, no, but pretty good. After Nick Holt was canned (needed All Americans like he had at USC), UW hit a home run with Justin Wilcox as DC. Also added was Peter Sirmon and Tosh Lupoi, but the unheralded get was DB coach Keith Heyward from Oregon St. I was always impressed with OSU's DB even though they never got the big time players.
We saw the defense improve dramatically as the season went on last year and the beatdown to BSU confirmed UW's defense was on the right track. The DBs and LBs are playing very well. We do have some talent and depth issues along the DL though.
We saw the defense improve dramatically as the season went on last year and the beatdown to BSU confirmed UW's defense was on the right track. The DBs and LBs are playing very well. We do have some talent and depth issues along the DL though.
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Our defense improved dramastically as soon as Sark became HC. Really looking forward to his second season.
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Thanks for the classy reply. I might post here more if more people sucked up to mednc said:Our defense improved dramastically as soon as Sark became HC. Really looking forward to his second season.
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Great insight and analysis.
Sometimes I feel guilty for all of the premium content I get for the price I pay. -
I was talking to my friend Dick about our defense. He's pretty impressed -
Looks like a statement. Not a question
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As an analytical commentator on actual football, you suck Bleener and always will. Stick to turf matters or provide a link next time.
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Tailgater said:
As an analytical commentator on actual football, you suck Bleener and always will. Stick to turf matters or provide a link next time.
Too easy.
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Sheesh, would you put a lid on it Damone. You said you were going to use that. But so soon? No offense but its really dumb dudeMikeDamone said:Looks like a statement. Not a question
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Our dline is a major concern. We saw it rushing 4 vs Boise st. BSU has a good offensive line. Maybe this weekend we'll get a better picture of our Dline.
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BS
When you reply to a post that who it is to... pretty basic -
since about 2001 when the UW started recruiting and by all appearances giving preferential treatment to anybody with an unpronouncable name from anywhere near the Confederated States of Micronesia, Guam, and other other areas that we beat the japanese over in WWII there has been NO PASS RUSH. What needs to happen is more recuiting from high schools in places like Watts and the south side of Chicago. then there will be some mean guys who can put some pressure on the QB!puppylove_sugarsteel said:Our dline is a major concern. We saw it rushing 4 vs Boise st. BSU has a good offensive line. Maybe this weekend we'll get a better picture of our Dline.
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Another idiot who thinks recruiting polys is the problem. CollegeDoog you want to take this one?ApostleofGrief said:
since about 2001 when the UW started recruiting and by all appearances giving preferential treatment to anybody with an unpronouncable name from anywhere near the Confederated States of Micronesia, Guam, and other other areas that we beat the japanese over in WWII there has been NO PASS RUSH. What needs to happen is more recuiting from high schools in places like Watts and the south side of Chicago. then there will be some mean guys who can put some pressure on the QB!puppylove_sugarsteel said:Our dline is a major concern. We saw it rushing 4 vs Boise st. BSU has a good offensive line. Maybe this weekend we'll get a better picture of our Dline.
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It was a statement not a question.Tailgater said:As an analytical commentator on actual football, you suck Bleener and always will. Stick to turf matters or provide a link next time.
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Who?
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Look man, I'm just saying not to give the appearance of preferential treatment to any class of persons.dnc said:
Another idiot who thinks recruiting polys is the problem. CollegeDoog you want to take this one?ApostleofGrief said:
since about 2001 when the UW started recruiting and by all appearances giving preferential treatment to anybody with an unpronouncable name from anywhere near the Confederated States of Micronesia, Guam, and other other areas that we beat the japanese over in WWII there has been NO PASS RUSH. What needs to happen is more recuiting from high schools in places like Watts and the south side of Chicago. then there will be some mean guys who can put some pressure on the QB!puppylove_sugarsteel said:Our dline is a major concern. We saw it rushing 4 vs Boise st. BSU has a good offensive line. Maybe this weekend we'll get a better picture of our Dline.
and you account for the total lack of a pass rush for more than the last ten years how? -- given the obvious tendencies in recruiting???dnc said:
Another idiot who thinks recruiting polys is the problem. CollegeDoog you want to take this one?ApostleofGrief said:
since about 2001 when the UW started recruiting and by all appearances giving preferential treatment to anybody with an unpronouncable name from anywhere near the Confederated States of Micronesia, Guam, and other other areas that we beat the japanese over in WWII there has been NO PASS RUSH. What needs to happen is more recuiting from high schools in places like Watts and the south side of Chicago. then there will be some mean guys who can put some pressure on the QB!puppylove_sugarsteel said:Our dline is a major concern. We saw it rushing 4 vs Boise st. BSU has a good offensive line. Maybe this weekend we'll get a better picture of our Dline.
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We haven't had a good defense since 1993 HTH.
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Where do you get the idea of any such "appearance". I've never once thought "they're recruiting that kid because he's a Poly". Hell, some of our best DL in recent years have been lightly recruited Polys like Jamora and Teo Nesheim.ApostleofGrief said:Look man, I'm just saying not to give the appearance of preferential treatment to any class of persons.
Please to be listing which kids we "appeared" to give preferential Poly treatment to.
Coaching deficiencies, obviously.ApostleofGrief said:
and you account for the total lack of a pass rush for more than the last ten years how? -- given the obvious tendencies in recruiting???
Polys are far and away the most likely racial group to reach the NFL. If UW's Poly's are underachieving, it's not because UW's recruiting Poly's, it's because UW is either a) recruiting the wrong Poly's b) not developing said Poly's c) employing defensive schemes that do not take advantage of the talents of said Polys.
All three of those are coaching issues, not ethnic issues.
Also, I don't see evidence that any other race/ethnicity of DL has been particularly effective at UW in recent years. Whites have Greyson Gunheim and maybe Jordan Reffett while African Americans have Ceasar Rayford. But crackers also have Dan Milsten, Walt Winter, Cameron Elisera, Nick Wood, and Conner Cree. Blacks have Stanley Daniels, Robert Lewis, Jasper Henry, Erick Lobos, Tyrone Davis, De'Shon Matthews, Craig Noble, Damion Turpin,
And of course Jordan White Frisbee never amounted to much, and I'm pretty sure blacks and whites both get credit for him.
The bust rate on the DL has been exceptionally high for a very long time, across all races.
Polys aren't the problem.
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