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Any Chance At This?

NeedleInTheSky88NeedleInTheSky88 Member Posts: 96
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If Cavs lose the series, will they give LeBron the finals MVP? This has only been done once, in 1969 with Jerry West, the first year they gave out the award I believe.

Curry has been very average at best, he currently has finals averages of 23.5ppg, 6.3apg, 5 turnovers per game, and shooting 41%.

LeBron's has finals averages of: 35.8ppg, 12rpg, 8.3apg, and shooting 38%.

I think if Curry plays just a little better for the remainder of the series, they probably give it to him. I also have a theory:

If LeBron continues to go nuts and Cavs lose in 6, they could give LeBron the MVP in front of Cleveland's crowd. Hard to imagine them giving LeBron finals MVP in GS if it goes to 7 and they lose.
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  • BallSackedBallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    WGAF?
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,082
    Assuming GS wins, and wins in 6, then I think you have to strongly consider giving the MVP trophy to Andre Iguodala ... he's been the best Warrior in the series by far at this point.

    That being said, if LBJ keeps his averages around that level, then it wouldn't shock me if he wins the MVP award. For what he is working with, pushing this series to at least 6 games is a testament to what he's done. The Cavs honestly had no business winning 2 games in this series.
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  • NeedleInTheSky88NeedleInTheSky88 Member Posts: 96
    Tequilla said:

    Assuming GS wins, and wins in 6, then I think you have to strongly consider giving the MVP trophy to Andre Iguodala ... he's been the best Warrior in the series by far at this point.

    That being said, if LBJ keeps his averages around that level, then it wouldn't shock me if he wins the MVP award. For what he is working with, pushing this series to at least 6 games is a testament to what he's done. The Cavs honestly had no business winning 2 games in this series.

    I was thinking Iguodala could steal it as well. Similar to how Kawhi stole it last year, and didn't come on til games 3-5 in last years finals.

    It probably won't happen, because it is hard to imagine the NBA giving the hardware to a player on the losing team, but no one on GS really deserves it as of now. However, there is still at least two more games. If neither Iggy or Curry assert themselves, I could see LeBron getting it if they lose in 6. The irony there is that if they lose in 7, LeBron probably deserves it even more since he got them an extra win, but hard to imagine them announce LeBron as finals MVP at Oracle.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827
    Anyone who argues LeBron isn't the most valuable player in this series isn't watching. This is a sweep by 40+ per game without LeBron. I can't imagine a more valuable performance.

    Of course, losing players have probably deserved the MVP before and not received it, and as you noted West is the only losing player who ever won it and that was way back before Race was old enough to be president. I can't really see it happening, but as you said, it would require a) the Cavs looser in six b) Curry doesn't go off the last two games.

    I think there's a good chance both happen. I'd love to see him win it.
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,082
    I'd have no problem with LBJ winning the Finals MVP - it would be deserved - particularly if the last 2 GS wins are competitive games. His case goes down just a bit if we see another 2 wins similar to Game 4 where GS runs them off the court.

    This series has always been about GS handling their business than anything else.

    Curry was a deserving MVP this year as the best player on the best team and the catalyst for everything that they did. That being said, the brilliance of GS is that they are a team that is built on far more than a single player. Curry is absolutely brilliant as a player and probably the best shooter that I've ever seen (particularly off the dribble). But there's no way that Curry wins a title without having the right pieces and players around him. That's not a knock on him ... that's true for pretty much every single player that has ever played the game.
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,846
    edited June 2015
    dnc said:

    Anyone who argues LeBron isn't the most valuable player in this series isn't watching. This is a sweep by 40+ per game without LeBron. I can't imagine a more valuable performance.

    Of course, losing players have probably deserved the MVP before and not received it, and as you noted West is the only losing player who ever won it and that was way back before Race was old enough to be president. I can't really see it happening, but as you said, it would require a) the Cavs looser in six b) Curry doesn't go off the last two games.

    I think there's a good chance both happen. I'd love to see him win it.

    I'm gonna argue that last night after he bumped his head, LBJ kinda took the night off. Maybe it was the gash in the head or maybe he just figured he would save his fuel to fight another day.

    But that wasn't the same guy as in games 1 through 3.

    When my kid who is the biggest LBJ pimp alive starts yelling "Point Shaver!" at the TV, it tells me BronBron was mailing it in.
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  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Unless Lebron completely shits the bed (which he won't) in games 5 and 6 then he should absolutely get the MVP.
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  • NeedleInTheSky88NeedleInTheSky88 Member Posts: 96
    Any guesses on mvp? It's a 3 man race between Iguodala, Curry and LBJ.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    NeedleInTheSky88 said:

    Any guesses on mvp? It's Curry.

    Iggy was a non-factor for half the series and LeBrick is 12 for 31 tonight.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827
    NeedleInTheSky88 said:

    Any guesses on mvp? It's a 3 man race between Iguodala, Curry and LBJ.

    Steph
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  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Steph deserves it.
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  • NeedleInTheSky88NeedleInTheSky88 Member Posts: 96
    It's Iggy. He deserves it.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827
    edited June 2015
    NeedleInTheSky88 said:

    It's Iggy. He deserves it.

    I've loved Iggy's game since his frosh year at Zona, and he played his tail off this series, but if Curry had drawn the same defensive attention Igoudala did he would have averaged 60.

    Curry was easily the most valuable player on the winning team.
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  • NeedleInTheSky88NeedleInTheSky88 Member Posts: 96
    dnc said:

    NeedleInTheSky88 said:

    It's Iggy. He deserves it.

    I've loved Iggy's game since his frosh year at Zona, and he played his tail off this series, but if Curry had drawn the same defensive attention Igoudala did he would have averaged 60.

    Curry was easily the most valuable player on the winning team.
    But at the same time Curry didn't have to play defense at all in this series except for game 1 when Irving played. Iguodala had to defend LeBron for most the series.

    And if you compare Curry's regular season stats to his finals stats, they're down. Iguodala played his best basketball of the year in the finals.
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,082
    IMO Iguodala had the biggest imprint on this series for the Warriors - a very worthy selection
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,082
    And for those that like to say that I'm not dialed in, I had Iguodala as MVP after Game 4 ... but then again, I'm never dialed in.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    And for those that like to say that I'm not dialed in, I had Iguodala as MVP after Game 4 ... but then again, I'm never dialed in.

    To be fair, you apparently have as much NBA knowledge as 7 of the 11 MVP voters.
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827
    edited June 2015
    NeedleInTheSky88 said:

    dnc said:

    NeedleInTheSky88 said:

    It's Iggy. He deserves it.

    I've loved Iggy's game since his frosh year at Zona, and he played his tail off this series, but if Curry had drawn the same defensive attention Igoudala did he would have averaged 60.

    Curry was easily the most valuable player on the winning team.
    But at the same time Curry didn't have to play defense at all in this series except for game 1 when Irving played. Iguodala had to defend LeBron for most the series.

    And if you compare Curry's regular season stats to his finals stats, they're down. Iguodala played his best basketball of the year in the finals.
    His shooting percentages and assists were down. Then again:

    Regular season Curry 23.8 ppg
    Finals Curry 26.0 ppg

    Regular season Curry 4.3 rpg
    Finals Curry 5.2 rpg

    And who cares if he played better during the regular season? The Finals MVP goes to the player who was the most valuable in the finals, not the players whose stats increased the most from the regular season in the finals.

    Curry was the most valuable player in the series for the Warriors. Take Igoudala off the Warrios and the series is a coinflip. Take Curry off the Warriors and the Cavs win in 5.

    Simple fact.
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