Top 10 Players in the NBA
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I really like Klay as a player, but I don't think his skill set is suited to be a #1 option on a team. He is a great #2 option. He is a very underrated defensive player, he is one of the better perimeter defenders in the NBA. Offensively he is a weaker version of Ray Allen in his prime. He doesn't have the elite penetrating skills that Ray had.
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Curry helps, but he's not the reason Klay puts up numbers. He puts up numbers because he's good. On other teams, he would get more attempts and handle the ball more. He's more than just a shooter. I don't think he's better than Reggie Miller, but I don't think he's far off either. It's a tough argument, but I do think Klay would rank in the middle of #1's.dnc said:
Reggie Miller never played with someone as good as Steph Curry either. Klay and Steph definitely make each other better, but Curry helps Klay more than Klay helps Steph IMO.RoadDawg55 said:Klay is probably somewhere between 12-18. He's a damn good player. Looking at his stats, he has improved each year he's been in the league, and improved quite a bit. His shooting percentages are going up, even with increased volume.
I made the post in another thread that this year his 3 point percentage was higher than Reggie Miller's ever was and Klay made more 3's than Reggie ever did. He's also become much more than a shooter and has a good off the dribble game. He's a tall two guard that gives good effort on defense too.
He's a good player but I don't think he's top 20. You really think if Klay was the best player on his team he'd be right in the middle of #1's in the league? -
If Klay's your 2nd best player ... you're winning titles. If he's your best, probably not. There's no shame in that.
Reggie doesn't have a title because he was always the best player on his team.
Pau Gasol has titles because he was the 2nd best player with the Lakers ... couldn't sniff shit when he was the best.
There's absolutely no shame in being the 2nd best player on your team if winning is your end objective.
We can say all that we want about how you need great players to win titles (and you do) ... but you also need to have a bunch of good/great complementary players around you to help out. Nobody wins on their own. -
Tequilla said:
If Klay's your 2nd best player ... you're winning titles. If he's your best, probably not. There's no shame in that.
Reggie doesn't have a title because he was always the best player on his team.
Pau Gasol has titles because he was the 2nd best player with the Lakers ... couldn't sniff shit when he was the best.
There's absolutely no shame in being the 2nd best player on your team if winning is your end objective.
We can say all that we want about how you need great players to win titles (and you do) ... but you also need to have a bunch of good/great complementary players around you to help out. Nobody wins on their own. -
There are a few teams that Klay could be the #1 option and compete for a title.
Atlanta, Memphis, San Antonio, maybe Washington. You could sub out those teams' 2 guard for Klay and possibly win a title. He might not be the best player on those teams, but he would likely be all of those teams' leading scorer. -
All this is true, except Klays not the's not the second best player on the team anymore.Tequilla said:If Klay's your 2nd best player ... you're winning titles. If he's your best, probably not. There's no shame in that.
Reggie doesn't have a title because he was always the best player on his team.
Pau Gasol has titles because he was the 2nd best player with the Lakers ... couldn't sniff shit when he was the best.
There's absolutely no shame in being the 2nd best player on your team if winning is your end objective.
We can say all that we want about how you need great players to win titles (and you do) ... but you also need to have a bunch of good/great complementary players around you to help out. Nobody wins on their own.
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He was second in scoring a couple years ago, and led the NBA in scoring in 2013. He was injured last year, but that doesn't mean we write him off. He doesn't suck, but he isn't a great teammate either. Him and Cousins are very similar, but like I mentioned, he gets the nod above Cousins because he has actually won at the NBA level.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Carmelo SUCKS.NeedleInTheSky88 said:Agree with most of your list, the only real difference is I have Carmelo instead of Boogie Cousins. Both players are really high talents, but both are losers and have issues. I just give the nod to Melo because he has taken his team to the playoffs, whereas Cousins hasn't even sniffed the playoffs, not even sure he has come close to .500. As horrible of a teammate as Melo can be, he is arguably the best pure scorer in the NBA and he does rebound fairly well for a SF.
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Disagree. If you are starting a team from scratch, Klay is picked before Green. And I've been a huge fan of Green since he was at Michigan State. I remember APAG and me talking about how good of a role player he was two years ago.dnc said:
All this is true, except Klays not the's not the second best player on the team anymore.Tequilla said:If Klay's your 2nd best player ... you're winning titles. If he's your best, probably not. There's no shame in that.
Reggie doesn't have a title because he was always the best player on his team.
Pau Gasol has titles because he was the 2nd best player with the Lakers ... couldn't sniff shit when he was the best.
There's absolutely no shame in being the 2nd best player on your team if winning is your end objective.
We can say all that we want about how you need great players to win titles (and you do) ... but you also need to have a bunch of good/great complementary players around you to help out. Nobody wins on their own. -
Carmelo Anthony got Jim Boeheim a national championship. Jim tried for 40 fucking years with all sorts of talent.
Anthony would be great again on a great team. There is no reason not to be a selfish dick on the Knicks -
If I'm starting a team from scratch I'm taking Green before Klay rather easily. But I'm a sucker for defense.RoadDawg55 said:
Disagree. If you are starting a team from scratch, Klay is picked before Green. And I've been a huge fan of Green since he was at Michigan State. I remember APAG and me talking about how good of a role player he was two years ago.dnc said:
All this is true, except Klays not the's not the second best player on the team anymore.Tequilla said:If Klay's your 2nd best player ... you're winning titles. If he's your best, probably not. There's no shame in that.
Reggie doesn't have a title because he was always the best player on his team.
Pau Gasol has titles because he was the 2nd best player with the Lakers ... couldn't sniff shit when he was the best.
There's absolutely no shame in being the 2nd best player on your team if winning is your end objective.
We can say all that we want about how you need great players to win titles (and you do) ... but you also need to have a bunch of good/great complementary players around you to help out. Nobody wins on their own. -
Carmelo has made it out of the first round of the playoffs twice in his career.NeedleInTheSky88 said:
He was second in scoring a couple years ago, and led the NBA in scoring in 2013. He was injured last year, but that doesn't mean we write him off. He doesn't suck, but he isn't a great teammate either. Him and Cousins are very similar, but like I mentioned, he gets the nod above Cousins because he has actually won at the NBA level.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Carmelo SUCKS.NeedleInTheSky88 said:Agree with most of your list, the only real difference is I have Carmelo instead of Boogie Cousins. Both players are really high talents, but both are losers and have issues. I just give the nod to Melo because he has taken his team to the playoffs, whereas Cousins hasn't even sniffed the playoffs, not even sure he has come close to .500. As horrible of a teammate as Melo can be, he is arguably the best pure scorer in the NBA and he does rebound fairly well for a SF.
Hope this helps.
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Lots of crappy players win in college.RaceBannon said:Carmelo Anthony got Jim Boeheim a national championship. Jim tried for 40 fucking years with all sorts of talent.
Anthony would be great again on a great team. There is no reason not to be a selfish dick on the Knicks -
I'm with DNC. Klay's great but Green changes the game. I loved him coming out of college but I never thought he'd be this good. Getting good defense, good passing and good enough shooting from the 4 makes everyone better. I think he was worth +10 wins and an MVP trophy for GS this year.dnc said:
If I'm starting a team from scratch I'm taking Green before Klay rather easily. But I'm a sucker for defense.RoadDawg55 said:
Disagree. If you are starting a team from scratch, Klay is picked before Green. And I've been a huge fan of Green since he was at Michigan State. I remember APAG and me talking about how good of a role player he was two years ago.dnc said:
All this is true, except Klays not the's not the second best player on the team anymore.Tequilla said:If Klay's your 2nd best player ... you're winning titles. If he's your best, probably not. There's no shame in that.
Reggie doesn't have a title because he was always the best player on his team.
Pau Gasol has titles because he was the 2nd best player with the Lakers ... couldn't sniff shit when he was the best.
There's absolutely no shame in being the 2nd best player on your team if winning is your end objective.
We can say all that we want about how you need great players to win titles (and you do) ... but you also need to have a bunch of good/great complementary players around you to help out. Nobody wins on their own. -
Green's in a perfect role for what his skills are ... he's a great facilitator and enabler. Ask him to expand his role into more of a scorer and that's probably not realistic.
Klay can get/create his own shot. If he's your best player, you're still most likely a playoff team.
